roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 25, 2025 Posted March 25, 2025 In their 63 seasons, how many different men have batted. 300 or more for the Mets while having enough at bats to qualify for the batting title?This is slightly different from "How many seasons has a Met batted over .300 while qualifying for the title?", which is part 2 of this quiz. For this part, I'm not looking for the number of seasons but rather the number in part 1 plus the number of men who have batted .300 on multiple occasions. Part 3 will be to name the multi- season .300 or more batters Parts 4, 5, and 6 to come . Possibly 7 and 8, depending.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 25, 2025 Posted March 25, 2025 (edited) Very few over the first 20 or so years. Shea Stadium, before the Doubleday owners began renovating the stadium, was absolutely brutal on batting averages. Personally, I believe that batting say .280 while playing half your games at Shea during its first 20 or so years, was the equivalent of batting. 300 in a neutral stadium. Edited March 25, 2025 by Guest
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 25, 2025 Posted March 25, 2025 =batmagadanleadoff post_id=187870 time=1742948860 user_id=68]Very few over the first 20 or so years. Shea Stadium, before the Doubleday owners began renovating the stadium, was absolutely brutal on batting averages. Personally, I believe that batting say .280 while playing half your games at Shea, was the equivalent of batting. 300 in a neutral stadium.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 25, 2025 Posted March 25, 2025 Um ... 34 guys.If I understand the question correctly.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 Sorry I wasn't clear. Part one is simply to give the number of individual men who have hit .300 or better for the Mets while qualifying for the batting title. Part two is to add that number by adding the number of seasons of those Mets who have done it multiple times, counting each iteration as a separate entry. In other words, if only two Mets had ever batted .300, the answer would be "2" for part one, and if one had done it twelve times, the answer would be "13" for part two.Parts three and four are more interesting, but let's establish a baseline first. Your answer to part one, Edgy, is "34"?
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 =batmagadanleadoff post_id=187871 time=1742949438 user_id=68]Richie Ashburn did it in his lone Mets season, but that, obviously, was at the Polo Grounds and not at the earlier version of Shea Stadium.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 No guesses beyond Edgy's guess of 34 Mets who've batted .300 while qualifying for the batting title? Come on, let's fucking GO here, okay? You've got a few days between the end of ST and Opening Day, what are yuz doing with your lives?Part 1--how many Mets have done it in 63 seasons? Part 2--many times have they done it? Have they averaged one .300 batter per season? Are they anywhere even close to that? Part 3 is --how many Mets have done it more than once?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 26, 2025 Posted March 26, 2025 Part I: 34 players hit .300 for the MetsPart II:They did it a total of 63 times among them.Part III:Twelve Mets have done it more than once.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Posted March 26, 2025 Maybe this should be presented as the higher/lower game.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Posted March 26, 2025 Maybe he'll ask us to guess how many jellybeans he has in his secret jellybean jar.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Maybe this should be presented as the higher/lower game.Good idea. But I was just establishing the baseline before getting to the good stuff. Edgy was high in his guesses of 34 Mets/63 times/12 two-timers: the numbers are 24 Mets/38 times/6 two-timers.I know, I was surprised by how few and how rare. Now for part 4, which is kinda fun:Name the two-timers. (Or, actually, two-or-more-timers).
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Posted March 26, 2025 Jeff McNeil did it four times. Keith - three times.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 =batmagadanleadoff post_id=187950 time=1743032723 user_id=68]Jeff McNeil did it four times. Keith - three times.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Posted March 26, 2025 =roger_that post_id=187951 time=1743035169 user_id=128]=batmagadanleadoff post_id=187950 time=1743032723 user_id=68]Jeff McNeil did it four times. Keith - three times.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 =batmagadanleadoff post_id=187953 time=1743035807 user_id=68]=roger_that post_id=187951 time=1743035169 user_id=128]=batmagadanleadoff post_id=187950 time=1743032723 user_id=68]Jeff McNeil did it four times. Keith - three times.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2025 Posted March 26, 2025 =roger_that post_id=187954 time=1743036750 user_id=128]=batmagadanleadoff post_id=187953 time=1743035807 user_id=68]=roger_that post_id=187951 time=1743035169 user_id=128]That's two. And Keith did do it three times. McNeil, not so much.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 27, 2025 Author Posted March 27, 2025 Fonzy, Piazza, and Wright are correct. Wright is the champ, a six-time .300 batter.Olerud only did it once, in 1998--though I did unaccountably omit him and his .354 average from my list, so now my count is 25 Mets, and 39 times. I suppose I should count Piazza's 1998 as well, since he did bat .328 for the season and qualify for the title, though I missed him since he had only about half his at-bats as a Met that year. (Unlike Keith's split 1983, when he hit .297 overall.) And I missed Piazza's 2000, too, and Alfonzo's 1997, so 25 Mets and 42 times. And tallying them up, I find I've got a total of 43 times in all. Counting these things one-by-one, year by year, is trickier than I thought.No matter how far down you keep digging your hole, McNeil still did it only three times. Why don't you look it up? If you tell me which are the four seasons you have in mind, I can tell you which one doesn't count. Now that we've tallied the list of two-time Mets full-season .300 batters, on to part five: of the (now) forty-three times a Met has batted .300 or better while qualifying for the batting title, how many of those seasons was the higher average attained at home, how many on the road? 22/21? 31/12? 16/27? Guess away.Part six, in case you'd like to get ahead of the game, is to name the greatest individual home/away bulge in favor of "home." And part seven is to name the greatest "away" bulge.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 28, 2025 Author Posted March 28, 2025 Now that we've tallied the list of two-time Mets full-season .300 batters, on to part five: of the (now) forty-three times a Met has batted .300 or better while qualifying for the batting title, how many of those seasons was the higher average attained at home, how many on the road? 22/21? 31/12? 16/27? Guess away.Part six, in case you'd like to get ahead of the game, is to name the greatest individual home/away bulge in favor of "home." And part seven is to name the greatest "away" bulge.No guesses? OK, answers to part 5: the split is a rather surprising one to me, with 23 Mets hitting better on the road to 19 hitting better at home. Much closer than I would have thought. (The reason those numbers add up to 42, not 43, is that Paul Lo Duca batted .318 at home and .318 on the road in 2006. There's probably a tiny difference if I actually calibrated the numbers, but I'm calling that one a tie.)
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 28, 2025 Posted March 28, 2025 Counting these things one-by-one, year by year, is trickier than I thought.Not really.https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYM/leaders_bat_50_season.shtmlhttps://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYM/leaders_bat_50_season.shtmlAlso, perusing the list, Jose Reyes did it twice, winning the batting title in 2011 and batting .300 in 2006. Reyes' .300 BA from 2006 was "rounded up". That is, he batted .29984 in 2006. But baseball batting averages are expressed as rounded to the third decimal only. That's the rule, the hell with the math. In the record books and and on the backs of baseball cards, Reyes was a .300 hitter in 2006.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 28, 2025 Author Posted March 28, 2025 You are correct (about Jose). He's included on my list of 43, though I left him off my list of two-timers. So he makes seven two-timers, and the only one to have done it exactly two times.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 28, 2025 Author Posted March 28, 2025 =ashie62 post_id=188122 time=1743190833 user_id=90]Edgardo Alfonzo?
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 28, 2025 Posted March 28, 2025 =roger_that post_id=188111 time=1743183087 user_id=128]So [Jose Reyes] makes seven two-timers, and the only one to have done it exactly two times.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2025 Author Posted March 29, 2025 =batmagadanleadoff post_id=188175 time=1743219345 user_id=68]=roger_that post_id=188111 time=1743183087 user_id=128]So [Jose Reyes] makes seven two-timers, and the only one to have done it exactly two times.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2025 Posted March 29, 2025 =roger_that post_id=188177 time=1743229338 user_id=128]=batmagadanleadoff post_id=188175 time=1743219345 user_id=68]=roger_that post_id=188111 time=1743183087 user_id=128]So [Jose Reyes] makes seven two-timers, and the only one to have done it exactly two times.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2025 Author Posted March 29, 2025 Well, no one seems to be listening to what I'm saying, so I guess I'll stick with Chinese.
The Hot Corner Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2025 Posted March 30, 2025 Daniel Murphy hit over .300 2 or 3 times as a Met.
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