Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 11, 2024 Posted January 11, 2024 In another thread, a couple of posters labeled the projected rotation for the Mets as "scary." While nothing indeed goes as projected, I decided to measure it up against division rivals, to see what illumiates. The projections below are from FanGraphs.[th][/th][th]Atlanta[/th][th]GS[/th][th]IP[/th][th]fWAR[/th][th][/th][th]Philadelphia[/th][th]GS[/th][th]IP[/th][th]fWAR[/th][th][/th][th]Miami[/th][th]GS[/th][th]IP[/th][th]fWAR[/th][th][/th][th]New York[/th][th]GS[/th][th]IP[/th][th]fWAR[/th][th][/th][th]Washington[/th][th]GS[/th][th]IP[/th][th]fWAR[/th][th][/th][th]Guy #1[/th]Spencer Strider311854.9[th][/th]Zack Wheeler322004.8[th][/th]Jesús Luzardo311813.3[th][/th]Kodai Senga311873.3[th][/th]Josiah Gray311771.1[th][/th][th]Guy #2[/th]Max Fried311853.5[th][/th]Aaron Nola321984.3[th][/th]Braxton Garrett291642.6[th][/th]José Quintana291681.7[th][/th]Patrick Corbin291661.3[th][/th][th]Guy #3[/th]Charlie Morton291652.2[th][/th]Taijuan Walker311751.6[th][/th]Edward Cabrera261391.8[th][/th]Luis Severino 261441.6[th][/th]MacKenzie Gore281522.2[th][/th][th]Guy #4[/th]Chris Sale261412.8[th][/th]Ranger Suárez281552.3[th][/th]Trevor Rogers 241311.8[th][/th]Sean Manaea241341.9[th][/th]Jake Irvin231241.1[th][/th][th]Guy #5[/th]Bryce Elder241381.2[th][/th]Cristopher Sánchez231261.9[th][/th]Eury Pérez241322.1[th][/th]Adrian Houser231220.9[th][/th]Trevor Williams191020.7[th][/th][th]Guy #6[/th]Huascar Ynoa 6360.6[th][/th]Mick Abel6370.2[th][/th]Max Meyer 191101.4[th][/th]David Peterson 11601.0[th][/th]Jackson Rutledge16910.5[th][/th][th]Guy #7[/th]AJ Smith-Shawver5270.3[th][/th]Nick Nelson5270.3[th][/th]Ryan Weathers3170.2[th][/th]Tylor Megill10520.5[th][/th]Joan Adon8440.5[th][/th][th]Guy #8[/th]Hurston Waldrep5280.3[th][/th]David Parkinson290.1[th][/th]Patrick Monteverde290.1[th][/th]Joey Lucchesi5270.3[th][/th]Cade Cavalli 3180.3[th][/th][th]Guy #9[/th]Dylan Dodd3180.1[th][/th]Noah Skirrow290.0[th][/th]Bryan Hoeing290.1[th][/th]José Butto290.1[th][/th]Mitchell Parker3180.1[th][/th][th]Guy #10[/th]Ian Anderson290.1[th][/th]Griff McGarry290.0[th][/th]Sixto Sánchez290.2[th][/th]Mike Vasil290.1[th][/th]DJ Herz290.1[th][/th][th][/th][th]Total[/th][th]162[/th][th]932[/th][th]16.0[/th][th][/th][th]Total[/th][th]163[/th][th]945[/th][th]15.5[/th][th][/th][th]Total[/th][th]162[/th][th]901[/th][th]13.6[/th][th][/th][th]Total[/th][th]163[/th][th]912[/th][th]11.4[/th][th][/th][th]Total[/th][th]162[/th][th]901[/th][th]7.9[/th][th][/th]Atlanta is a terrfic team, top to bottom and side to side. They would be terrific even if they didn't have a rotation that is the class of the division. Alas, however, they do, so a few things are going to have to go sideways for them not to win and win big. Charlie Morton could disappear at any time, but it'll take more than that to sidetrack them.Philadelphia isn't in a particularly good team, but if the two guys at the top of the rotation bang away like FanGraphs thinks they should, they'll win a lot of games and be a post-season threat to anybody. These projections are largely based on playing out perhaps hundreds of season scenarios and publishing the average, so it takes a lot of confidence to predict Zach Wheeler will reach 200 innings — a figure they list for almost nobody. You'd figure that in 20% of the scenarios, he gets catastrophically injured, so he's pitching like 240 innings the rest of the time.Miami is a particularly bad team. Their rotation — at least according to these measures — looks perfectly respectable and stronger than ours, but the team has almost no offense beyond Jazz Chisolm, Jr.The Mets' key seems to be getting more innings out of the top of their rotation than FanGraphs is willing to predict, but the team's kid-gloving of Kodai Senga last season along with José Quintana's injury leave them bearish. It's a lot to ask Quintana to give them 200 innings of the same sort of work he turned in at the end of 2023, but that may be what they'll need. Washington looks like a washout. They're the kind of team that doesn't know if they want the Trevor Williamses of the world to hang in there, or to lose their spot to someone else. It'll be a long hot summer in DC, but the fans will always have 2019.Trades, injuries, disgusing childhood illnesss, and sudden rapid leaps forward from obscure names still have yet to play out, so this is merely a frame of the movie, if not the most encouraging of frames.The Mets also seem to be the strongest in the 6-through-8 slots. Part of that is the greater number of starts expected to go to those guys, but part of it is simply projecting stronger there. So when guys start going down, this thread is worth revisiting.Also, Spencer Strider seems like a dickhead.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted January 11, 2024 Posted January 11, 2024 Good stuff, agree , we need the rotation to do something it's probably not capable of doing.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted January 11, 2024 Posted January 11, 2024 These days 200 innings seems astronomical.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted January 11, 2024 Posted January 11, 2024 Scary? The Mets' staff?You mean like hoping that chili doesn't come back to haunt you when you're on the freeway scary?
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted January 11, 2024 Posted January 11, 2024 That rotation is scarier than a 7-11 burrito. If this is it (and in fairness it may not be) it is going to be a very long summer in Flushing.
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