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Doesn't Buck realize that Alvarez is three homers away from a Johnny Bench record for homers by a 21 year old catcher?

He may have fallen out of the ROY race, but I think the kid deserves a shot, especially in a band box like this place. And if he gets them, the publicity could put him back into the ROY race.



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Edgy MD wrote:

That would be a pretty obscure record. Beyond that, two of his homeruns are as a designated hitter.


Would they disqualify the DH home runs?


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In this era yould would be tracking DH home runs for so many players that it would be hard to disqualify players for having a few dings at DH


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Alvarez falling out of the ROY race might have a bit more to do with him hitting sub-.200 w/a grand total of 3 HRs since the end of July than would Buck failing to allow him a chance to chase some obscure 'record' by slotting him at DH in a random game with a week to go in the season.


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Makes sense



I was looking up sluggers with many homers and low averages and Schwarber seems to have the lowest BA



Rob Deer hit 25 HR batting .175

Gorman Thomas was in the .230s



Dave Kingman should be in the Mets HOF and Cooperstown


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Not sure that was the smartest move with no one out ... but it worked so I can't complain too much.

Besides, runner on 3rd/no one out for this year this year might be shorter odds.


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Edgy MD wrote:

That would be a pretty obscure record. Beyond that, two of his homeruns are as a designated hitter.


Would they disqualify the DH home runs?


I'm not even sure who "they" are.


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Edgy MD wrote:


Edgy MD wrote:

That would be a pretty obscure record. Beyond that, two of his homeruns are as a designated hitter.


Would they disqualify the DH home runs?


I'm not even sure who "they" are.


Would the record books consider all of Alvarez's homers as hit by catcher this season


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For an esoteric record such as 'Most HRs as a Catcher' [subject to blah blah] then, yes, only

those HRs hit while in the lineup as a catcher would count towards that record.


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Edgy MD wrote:






Would they disqualify the DH home runs?


I'm not even sure who "they" are.


Would the record books consider all of Alvarez's homers as hit by catcher this season


I'm trying to suggest that I don't think there is any "book" that officially records this record. I'm sure there's somebody who has stolen more bases than anybody else as a 36-year-old thirdbaseman, and you can probably look it up with fangraphs or baseball-reference dataquery, but I don't think any official source that has set such a record in ink and touts it as a standard other players of the future will be conscious of.



But tradition has been that output-by-position records include only the output recorded by players while actually entered into the lineup as currently playing that position. Davey Johnson, for instance, hit 43 homers in 1973, but he wasn't credited with breaking Rogers Hornsby's 1922 record of homers by a secondbaseman, because one of those homers came as a pinch-hitter.


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In this era yould would be tracking DH home runs for so many players that it would be hard to disqualify players for having a few dings at DH

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Edgy MD wrote:

That would be a pretty obscure record. Beyond that, two of [Alvarez's] homeruns are as a designated hitter.


Would they disqualify the DH home runs?


I dunno. Would they count all of Edgar Martinez's career HR's as being hit as a catcher? How about as a pitcher?


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