G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Major League Baseball is placing Roberto Alomar on its ineligible list after reviewing an allegation of sexual misconduct against the Hall of Fame second baseman.Alomar's contract as a consultant to MLB in Puerto Rico was terminated, as anyone on the ineligible list is banned from working in the league office or for any team in the majors or affiliated minors. He also served on commissioner Rob Manfred's competition committee and worked for the Toronto Blue Jays as a special assistant, but that position was restructured as part of wider cost-cutting moves last September.The Jays are removing Alomar from their Level of Excellence as well.https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/mlb-puts-roberto-alomar-ineligible-list-reviewing-sexual-misconduct-allegation/https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/mlb-puts-roberto-alomar-ineligible-list-reviewing-sexual-misconduct-allegation/ Edited April 30, 2021 by Guest
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 Well at least we know he learned something from his tenure as a Met.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 We don't know exactly what he did.It must have really bad for that kind of draconian penalty.Said Manfred: "Having reviewed all of the available evidence from the now completed investigation, I have concluded that Mr. Alomar violated MLB's policies, and that termination of his consultant contract and placement on MLB's Ineligible List are warranted."What policies?And it took place in 2014.And it just came out recently?I need more info.Later
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted May 2, 2021 Posted May 2, 2021 After thinking about it, beyond my initial reaction - that we have to learn more. While we (and I do include myself) feel like we need to know every detail about everything, the simple fact is we don't have that right and privacy is a thing. That choice is Alomar's as well, and his statement is pretty notable in having no specifics and very carefully not denying any wrongdoing. MLB and the Blue Jays are multi-billion dollar corporations with armies of lawyers, and Alomar is a multi-millionaire with the ability to get an army of his own and no indication that he's considering any kind of defamation suit.What we can take from these events is he knows what he did, MLB knows he did it, and nobody, including the victim wants these events to be public. That's not what anyone wants to hear because we live in a world obsessed with knowing everything about everything, but that's where we are. I'm the last person to 'side with the corporation' but in this instance I do believe that what little we know of the situation indicates that MLB is on very firm ground, and that the Blue Jays agreed. To go a little over into the hyper-speculative, I do wonder if part of the Blue Jays extreme response is that the organization knew about the event in 2014, and is taking this action in an attempt to avoid the bad reputation other front offices like the Mets have received for covering up for creepy employees recently.As for the whole court of law type stuff, the line where losing your job sits is not the same place as the line where you are criminally culpable. Not to say that it definitely isn't past that line, the accuser may have presented evidence but didn't wish to go the criminal route for privacy reasons which is understandable given the history of every single case like this that has ever happened. If they decided that Alomar being declared ineligible was enough consequences for them, that's their choice. The fact that it's a choice that includes no fame and no money certainly indicates some integrity for that person in my opinion.Later
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 3, 2021 Author Posted May 3, 2021 Alomar has resigned from HOF board (he's still a Hall of Famer).
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted May 4, 2021 Posted May 4, 2021 Man, I'm gonna miss Robert Alomar.As long as his name was up there, I could live in the illusion that this unsavory business had nothing to do with the similarly-monikered-but-in-no-way-related Roberto Alomar.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted May 4, 2021 Posted May 4, 2021 That's weird.How does a thread title change when you post into it?Maybe something happened in to transition to the new site/software?It appears ok when I typed this.Later
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 4, 2021 Author Posted May 4, 2021 I noticed my title typo and fixed it. I guess everything else followed.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 29, 2021 Author Posted May 29, 2021 Another Alo-gation.A second woman is alleging sexual misconduct by Roberto Alomar in 2014, prompting the Toronto Blue Jays to launch an investigation into what happened and how it was handled by the team.The woman, Melissa Verge, alleged in a story published Friday by the Toronto Star that Alomar propositioned her for sex and pressed his body into hers without consent while she was working as a volunteer at a youth baseball camp run by the Blue Jays. Verge was 18 at the time; Alomar was 46.Verge told the Star that she told Rob Jack, a team official at the time and a friend of Alomar's, about what happened. The Blue Jays say Jack did not inform any other members of the team or notify human resources about the allegations. He was fired by the team a year later.In a statement to the Star, the Blue Jays say they were "troubled to learn about Ms. Verge's experience in 2014 involving Roberto Alomar and another former employee" and that they hired an outside firm to conduct an investigation after being notified by the Star about what allegedly happened.Neither Alomar nor Jack responded for comment, according to the Star.https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31529417/toronto-blue-jays-investigation-new-sexual-misconduct-allegation-roberto-alomarhttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31529417/toronto-blue-jays-investigation-new-sexual-misconduct-allegation-roberto-alomar
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 Ms. Verge has told the story herself in an https://www.thestar.com/sports/2021/05/28/all-i-wanted-was-baseball-advice-instead-roberto-alomar-pushed-his-unwelcome-body-up-against-mine.htmlessay for The Toronto Star.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2021 Posted May 30, 2021 =G-Fafif post_id=62551 time=1619808856 user_id=55]The Jays are removing Alomar from their Level of Excellence as well.
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