IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

[Edgy MD]

In the great Mets tradition of battling it out on the July 5 after spending a quiet, introspective Independence Day off with family, the Mets and Jacob deGrom host Vince Velasquez and the Phillies, while all in attendance will be buzzing with excitement for the commemoration of the 328 grand opening of Constatine's Bridge, spanning the Danube between Sucidava and Oescus, built 17 centuries ago and still one of the longest river spans ever.

[Fman99]

Wait, why are we celebrating Constatine's Bridge exactly? Is that a Chicago song?

[Edgy MD]

No, just some idiot decided not to schedule baseball on the fourth of July, so we have to celebrate something else on the fifth.

[Ceetar]

to be fair, America doesn't exactly deserve to be celebrated right now anyway.

[Edgy MD]

I appreciated the fourth more than ever yesterday. Tracing our independence back not to a decisive battle, a bloody surrender, or an uprising that led to hangings or guillotines for the ousted ruling class, but instead back to an act passed by a deliberative congress.



The brave Continental Army is part of our legacy, but we weren't born at at Lexington, Concord, or Bunker Hill. We were born of civilian rule.



Tanks, my ass.

[kcmets]

PHI (45‑42) Vince Velasquez (RHP, 2-5, 4.73)

NYM (39‑48) Jacob deGrom (RHP, 4-7, 3.32)

[kcmets]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xH9_9znxWMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xH9_9znxWM[/YOUTUBE]

[G-Fafif]

All Star Jeff McNeil LF

All Star Pete Alonso 1B

Former All Star Robinson Cano 2B

Former All Star Michael Conforto CF

Former All Star Todd Frazier

Potential Future All Star Dom Smith LF

Former All Star Wilson Ramos C

Potential Future All Star Amed Rosario SS

All Star Jacob deGrom P



NOT PICTURED: deGrom's personal catcher Tomas Nido, perhaps so that Ramos doesn't feel the All Star pitchers don't like him.

[Frayed Knot]

Phils be slippin'.



After peaking at 3.5 games up in mid-May and starting June at still 2.0 in 1st, they spiraled into an 11-17 month of June and just came out of Atlanta losers of 2 of 3 so far in July.

Their 3.5 game lead is now a -6.5 as they've been passed by both the Braves and Nationals, 6.0 games ahead of us.



Last night they jumped out to 4 runs in the top of the 1st but were losing by the 2nd and wound up on the wrong end of a 12-6 drubbing.



Bryce Harper is 8th on their team, and 6th among position players, in WAR (1.4).

Basically he's Conforto this year [bH = .252, 16 HRs in 380 PA; MC = .247/16/335] only with a few more walks [58 to 46] and lots more drama and hair flips.



Aaron Nola seems to have gotten his act straight lately and has been great over his last three starts [23 IP, 2R (1 ER) allowed on 11 hits, 5 BB vs 28 K].

We'll see him on Sunday vs Wheeler

[kcmets]

We need too see Good Ol' Bill and his brooms on Sunday. Gotta!



#lgm #ygb #ymdyf

[seawolf17]

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We need too see Good Ol' Bill and his brooms on Sunday. Gotta!



#lgm #ygb #ymdyf

[Edgy MD]

I really like the Constantine's Bridge-themed hats the Mets are wearing.

[Edgy MD]

KAPOWIE!

[bmfc1]

This is the article that Gary recommended to us: https://sports.yahoo.com/the-ballad-of-a-contact-hitter-how-mets-all-star-jeff-mc-neil-became-a-hitting-machine-194414711.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=twhttps://sports.yahoo.com/the-ballad-of-a-contact-hitter-how-mets-all-star-jeff-mc-neil-became-a-hitting-machine-194414711.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=tw

[bmfc1]

The umpires couldn't initiate a review on their own--why? Because they didn't want to be embarrassed that the HP ump missed a call that was right in front of him?

[Edgy MD]

Mickey, not only did you huh-waste your challenge, you've got to sell the idea of a crew chief challenge or get tossed trying.

[bmfc1]

Edgy MD wrote: Mickey, not only did you huh-waste your challenge, you've got to sell the idea of a crew chief challenge or get tossed trying.

This is a good point--Mickey went down quietly but he could have asked and then gotten a signal from the dugout as to whether the call was correct. Mickey then should have shown some fire, or does he only do that for Tim Healy?

[Frayed Knot]

The problem is that there are no guidelines as to why or even if the umps go to a crew review.

It's totally at their discretion and with a 'naked eye' call that seemed correct (throw was clearly late) there was no reason for them to think it was wrong and if they are going to be

swayed by the passion of the manager then there becomes essentially no situation where they wouldn't go to a review at which point there's no longer a one per game limit.

But only Mattingly, it seems, gets seven per game.

[Frayed Knot]

The other point is: who was the dummy who thought the Frazier challenge was a good idea?

Mickey doesn't decide those things. No manager makes those calls.

[bmfc1]

The home plate umpire is Brian Gorman. That call was so bad that Angel Hernandez was embarrassed.

[Frayed Knot]

But did anyone here see that call in live time and think he was out?

I know I didn't. Ramos didn't seem to react. And no one in the booth said a word until after they saw the 'foot bounce' via the slo-mo replay.

[bmfc1]

Ramos pointed right away.

[kcmets]

Frayed Knot wrote: But did anyone here see that call in live time and think he was out?

I didn't either. They need to re-think how plays are reviewed, and the one and

done thing -- particularly when calls go against the Mets!! Put some earbuds

in the umps ears and have someone say you missed that one and do away with

the whole, 'let's go to the headphones and waste five minutes' thing.

[Frayed Knot]

Frayed Knot wrote: But did anyone here see that call in live time and think he was out? I didn't either. They need to re-think how plays are reviewed,

I think they need to revamp things too. This current 'one and beg' system means you've either got a selective limit or no limit at all.

I've said before that I'd be willing to go to two challenges per game but only if the call to go to review were made immediately w/o

the whole 'directive from above' nonsense. That, at least, would stop reviews on those hair-splitting calls early in games.

[kcmets]

Fuckin' Jay Bruce boo-boo bitin'...

[bmfc1]

It's all encompassed right there: the guy that Brodie Van Ego trades for gives up a possible game-winner to one of the guys that he traded. And then Brodie Van Ego's FA catcher throws one in the Hudson River.

The Mets only have 2 runs tonight but Brodie and Mickey should both be embarrassed.

Edited July 5, 2019 by Guest

[Edgy MD]

I'm certainly for the decision to challenge only being made on the field in real time.



Also, you get the second challenge only if you bet your neck, and accept that you get a red card if the play isn't overturned.



SKIN IN THE GAME!

[Frayed Knot]

It's a deGrom game, things aren't allowed to go right.

[bmfc1]

Ramos saved a run there by not throwing. Good job!

[Frayed Knot]

This is at least three outings this season where Diaz has allowed multiple runs in a save situation before even recording a second out.

He's not just blowing saves, he's destroying them.