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Giants - no contest. Looks like my 6 year-old drew the injun.

David Wright:Year.......G.......AB.......R.......H.......2B.......3B.......HR.......RBI.......BB.......SO.......SB.......Avg.......TB.......Slg. 2004.......69.....263......41......77.......17.......1.......14........40.........14.......40.........6.......293.......138.......525 2005.......76.....264......44......77.......20.......1.......11........41.........36.......58.........6.......292.......132.......500 Ks are up, BBs are up, powers down a bit but still...

The old logo is cool in terms of getting it on a t-shirt and wearing it, but to put it back in the rotation as an alternative to the actual game worn jerseys is silly.It's ugly, cartoon-like and basically dumb.I'm guessing Miller Brewing might also have a say or at least possibly object to any permanent logo change.I don't think that its just a coinkydink that the 'M' on the Brewers current cap has a distinct resemblence to the 'M' in 'Miller'. Hmmm, and don't they play in 'Miller Park'?

Bret Sabermetric wrote:I'd love to scan a page from the program and post it here to show you. Any suggestions as to how I get some picture off my hard drive to post here? I've rarely posted images, and am basically clueless (I think I need a site to put the photos on, no?) , but if anyone can talk me through it, or lend me a site...You can upload images to this site for free and then link them to the 'Pool. [url=http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?type=main&uerr=0&picid=474507&ext=jpg]Let's see that Sox anti-propaganda[/url]

Bret - I've actually sat in similar seats to the ones you described at Fenway years ago. Sox were playing the Tigers and Cecil Fielder was playing first. My man's ass was so big It felt like he was sitting in my lap.You didn't think that the actual seat was just a tad too narrow? I'm nowhere near Cecil size and I can barely fit into them.

Melting. They are drunk with the excitement of a new city, new uniforms, fans, etc. and are feeding off it. As a result they are unbeatable at the Bobby and that is carrying them.Get ready for the hangover.

I'm glad you had a blast at the Fens. I always do when I go to games there. It is a wonderful place to be if you are a baseball fan. You did not mention though, how uncomfortable your actual seat was and we both know it was.I can honestly say that I've had very similar fan experience at Shea. I love going to Shea and while the area where my seats are lends itself to the transient fan more than the diehard I find that the people that are usually around me are, for the most part. likeable.[sidebar} Those people include but are limited to:The very inebriated hispanic fan who kept screaming through a latin-accented drunken lisp 'Do jew know wha Mess stanz for? MY ENTIRE TEAM SUSS!" Loved that then. love it now.The effeminate hispanic man with his male friend who when hit by a peanut shell tossed by an obnoxious friend of mine got up turned around and yelled very angrily "Who hit me with the penis?! Who? Who hit me with the penis?!" This guy walked straight out of Seinfeld. Remember the gay couple who would intimidate Kramer and Jerry? Guy was a dead ringer. It was just a coincidence that both of these men were latino, no bias here. I'm a native - Tito Puente is the soundtrack to my childhood.[/sidebar]I have heard from friends and fans in the Boston area that the there is a 'new' crowd going to the ballyard up there these days. I think there's a name for them. Oh yeah 'bandwagon jumpers'. Why are they so pleasent and accepting of their teams shortcomings? Because these are people who are not or have not been emotionally invested in that team for their entire lives. They are there for the event. Nothing wrong with that but let's see how fan-friendly and accepting that same crowd is two-three seasons from now with the sweet taste of chamiponship firmly behind them.All this being said - I love going to Fenway, I love the atmosphere there and I truly like the Boston Red Sox - my second favorite team. A distant second but still second.

Glad you had fun coobster how were the seats?

Am I the only one who thinks that Gary Sheffield and Carl Everett would get along very well?

="metirish"]Could you plese link the article, Zambrano has done good with little run support, tough to watch at times but that's ok.I don't think you can access the Times articles if you're not registered so here it is...June 30, 2005Ishii May Be Walking His Way Out of the Mets' RotationBy LEE JENKINS Somewhere in the major leagues there must be a team patient and understanding enough to have Kazuhisa Ishii and Victor Zambrano in the same starting rotation.Such a place would congratulate Zambrano for winning a game in which he throws more balls than strikes. Such a place would applaud Ishii for recording a strikeout after walking the bases loaded. The fans would talk more about potential than about control problems.But New York is not that place, and the Mets are not that team. One night after Manager Willie Randolph expressed frustration with Zambrano in a victory, he had reason to fume at Ishii for a 6-3 loss to the Philadelphia Phillies last night at Shea Stadium. After the game, Randolph said that Ishii was still in the starting rotation, but it became clear that his spot was no longer set in stone. "I'm not going to talk to you guys about making changes on a pitcher before I talk to the pitcher," Randolph told reporters. "If you're looking for his head, I'm not going to give you that." He added: "You don't want to keep a guy out there who struggles. If and when we decide to do something along those lines, we'll do it." Randolph concluded his news conference in an ominous tone. "We'll see," he said. "We'll see."Ishii and Zambrano come from different continents and speak different languages, but they seem to have been produced by the same school of pitching. It is as if someone taught them not to throw strikes so they would not give up hits. They both have natural movement on their pitches, making it even more difficult to tell where the ball is heading.Ishii worked three and a third innings last night, two of which he started with walks. To kick off the fourth, he walked the first three batters he faced, loading the bases with no outs. Randolph turned away in disgust and dialed the bullpen on the dugout telephone. He had let Zambrano pitch five innings the previous night, but he was not going to let Ishii make it through four.But Ishii and Zambrano have a way of disarming Randolph as quickly as they may irritate him. When Ishii struck out the Philadelphia cleanup hitter, Jim Thome, with the bases loaded, then started David Bell with two strikes, Randolph must have assumed he was witnessing another great escape. The night before, Zambrano loaded the bases with two walks and a hit batsman, only to wiggle free with a couple of head-turning changeups.Just as Randolph must have started to relax, Bell hit a two-run single and Chase Utley pounded a three-run homer. They were the only two hits Ishii allowed, but the walks made them crucial. "I just get too cautious," Ishii said through his interpreter. "I think I need to be a lot more aggressive. I want to pitch really well for this team. It's important for me. I think I can bring my level up instead of being so evasive with my pitches. I need to be better."Ishii is every bit as erratic as Zambrano, and he may be an even slower worker, often removing his hat between pitches. While Zambrano has at least managed to string together 10 quality starts in a row, Ishii is 2-7 with a 5.68 earned run average, the least successful starter in a deep rotation. At this time last week, the Mets appeared ready to give up on Ishii and replace him with Aaron Heilman, but Ishii again demonstrated his survival skills and beat the Phillies.Ishii is entering a jam he might not be able to coax his way out of. The Mets not only have Heilman, who was cheered when he relieved Ishii, but they also expect starting pitcher Steve Trachsel to return from back surgery by August. Trachsel may not have the upside of Ishii or Zambrano, but he throws strikes, and this season those have been in short supply at the back end of the rotation."Kaz just sort of loses his release point and his head starts flying out," catcher Mike Piazza said. "Then he can't pick it back up."Neither could the Mets, who wasted Cliff Floyd's 21st home run of the season and Jose Offerman's second pinch-hit home run of his career. Oddly enough, Offerman's first pinch-hit homer came last month, when he was playing for the Phillies.From the beginning, the Mets were slow taking the field. They endured a 34-minute rain delay and did not even leave the dugout when the song "Bring Em Out" was played over the loudspeaker. "Bring Em Out" is generally the cue for the Mets to take their positions. Soon enough, a variation of that title could become the theme song for Ishii.

I was all set to go today but 'something suddenly came up'. Work.Anybody heading out to see Pedro clinch the series?

So does the box from the 2000 game. I assumed you couldn't fit two digits in there and that's why there was an 'A'.

I was there.Great night.I lay claim to being the only fan to attend both Mets game at Shea when the Mets posted 10-run innings.That one and [url=http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/gamedetail.php?gameno=2825]this one[/url]

Player/coach-wise I dunno, but you gotta figure Kiner and Murphy have them

Parents whining about the uniforms?That's just stupid. Our kids played the season in t-shirts with the team name screen-printed across the front, sponsor and number on the back and they were tickled.Do I like the uniforms? Not particularly, but I'm not the one wearing it so why does my opinion matter?

Just agreeing with ya wolfie.

seawolf17 wrote:I don't want Sheffield either, but boy, when you look at the numbers... a bat like that would like nice in the center of this lineup. I just want the bat to be held by a different guy.Yeah sure his bat would be great in this lineup this year. Again though the Mets are more than Sheffield's bat away from winning this year. And then we'd be stuck with him next year when he'd be 40, making $13 mil and whining.A move like this flies in the face of 'being ptaient and building a winning organization'.Don't like it, don't want it.

Jeter to CF?HA!His ego would never allow it.

Gilbert Gottfried.

Joel Sherman who, if I read between the lines correctly in many of his columns, seems to be a Mets fan.I don't like this deal either. The Mets are a .500 team this year. No need to be trading Cammie and a 'young pitcher' for a malcontent like Sheffield.They need more than a bat this year and if we are trying to build a foundation for a string of successful years, trading young pitchers for aging, overpriced sluggers doesn't seem to be the smartest route to go.Next year or the year after if the Mets are one big bat away then this deal has my blessing. This year though I'd like to let this team gel, play together, get used to one another and learn how to win together. Cammie's got to be a positive influence on young guys like Reyes, Wright and Diaz.I hope this is all just about selling papers. I'd lose a lot of respect for Omar and his philosophies of team building if he pulled the trigger on something like this.

Edgy DC wrote:"Born: 08/07/1973 " -- mlb.comSaigon fell in Spring 1975, right?You are correct.I guess I didn't realize Graves was as old as he is.My bad.

Edgy DC wrote:So, is Graves the wartime son of an American soldier and a Vietnamese national?Wartime? Too young.

]I remember hearing something that they wanted to work out a deal with one of the local pro hockey teams not under the Dolan's thumb.Islanders I believe. Similar fan base and all that.

]I don't have any boys.That you know of.

Oh please.It was funny. It is funny.Nazis are/were not funny and neither was their boss but Edgy and Willet's threads are.