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="NYGAMEUSED"]Boy these no clue reponses get better and better. I never said thats the kind of return you will get back from Watson or Warthen just stating a fact the memorabilia can go up pretty nicely in value. No you didn't say that, you implied it, as I stated in my post. ="NYGAMEUSED"]For your knowledge a Broker can always state possibilities of anything there is nothing illegal about it, he just can't guarantee it because as e all know nothing in this world is certain. That's an extremely fine line there my friend, best not to try and walk it lest you fall off it.

="NYGAMEUSED"]soupcan well to let you know one of Mickey Mantles Game Used Jersey just sold for over $200,000 I think thats a nice sum of money. $200,000.00 huh? So that's the kind of return I should expect from that Allen Watson jersey, eh? Or maybe the Dan Warthen (Dan Warthen?) jersey would be the better choice to use a college fund for my kids. Did you know that its illegal for a commodities or stock broker to make that kind of statement when solicting a potential client? Do you know why? Because, among other things, its misleading and implies a return on an investment that is completely unrealistic. Now if you were to guarantee that my 'game-used, LOA accompanying memorabilia' would return a significant increased return back to me in a matter of a few years I might be interested. You must have those written guarantees lying around somewhere, right?

NYGAMEUSED wrote: For investment purposes - these items do go up in vaule and is another reason why people collect them. This is exactly why I've emptied my 401K and put everything I have into Mark Bomback's game-used underwear. It's huge and gettin' huger!

I wonder if they could get me a Ron Hodges game-used spit cup. With an 'LOA' of course.

I'm guessing 'Letter of Authentification'. And I have absolutely no use for this: Ricky Ledee 1986 Game Used Throwback Jersey

My aging eyes won't allow me to get all the way through Scarlet's post so if I'm repeating here, I'm sorry. I read in the NYTimes this morning that Columbus has affiliated with the Washington Senators for two years with an eye towards hooking up with either the Reds or Indians when their current agreements witheir respective AAA clubs expire. And, failing to recognize the pure genius of Edgy's 'Ohio Players' suggestion, they will retain the name Clippers.

Did I mention how good Reggie Bars were? They were.

I, um, liked those.

I brought this over from the 'Answer/Ask' thread in the NBF... SteveJRogers wrote: Revisionist history has Jackson as a beloved MFY Even after his "Yankee Moment" with the three homers MFY fans still held guys like a Munson, Piniella, Randolph, Rivers, and Billy Martin in higher regard and esteem Yankee fans still begrudginly accept that he was a part of 77-78 and barely acknowldege that his homer was the "Game Winning" hit of the "Bucky Bleeping Dent Game" Ask any Yankee fan which retired number should be unretired and they'll usually say Reggie's as he was only there for 5 years and more people associate him as an A, not a Yankee I think you're wrong Steve. I'm old enough to have a good memory of Jackson on the Yankees and I have no recollection of his being villified in any way at all when he played here. Sure he proclaimed himself the straw that stirs the drink when Munson was the beloved captain but that was more fodder for the whole Bronx Zoo media circus than a call to arms for fans of Munson. In fact I even remember Reggie Bars being a huge hit when they came out. Would A-Rod bars be a big seller? I think not.

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I I think (though I'm not sure) the Mets may have worn black jerseys and caps for every postseason game they played in 1999 and 2000. And since those postseasons did not end the way we would've wanted, its time to change the karma.

Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the black unis and the black drop shadow on the Mets script on the white unis and the white pinstriped unis as well as on the 'New York' across the chest of the road grays. I also detest the all black hats with the tri-color 'NY'. I do like the black hats with the blue bill and think that these hats should be road hats, worn only with the road grays that say 'New York' (sans drop shadow of course). The only solace I take when I see the Mets wearing all black is that a black uniform does have some precedence in baseball history... Baltimore circa 1901 New York, National League circa 1905 These were the only examples I could find but I think there was a team named the Spiders that also wore all black unis around the turn of the century.

New Orleans in the summer? Ugh. I can't imagine how uncomfortable that would be. I've been there in November and its hot and muggy then.

Genius!

N'awlins? Isn't the point of all this reshuffling to bring the AAA squad gegraphically closer to the big league one?

Worried that I will have to wait in a longer than usual line when I get up to get my hot dog during Game 4 of the World Series and miss Wagner blowing smoke by Derek Jeter to finish off a 4 game sweep of the Yankees. Really worried about that.

'86/'06 - first Mets postseason appearance since a World Series loss.

Heh-heh-heh.

Today's NYTimes agrees with Mole.. September 19, 2006 On Baseball On the One Hand, There May Be a Problem at Shea By MURRAY CHASS WHEN is losing good for business? When the Mets are on the verge of clinching their first division title since 1988 and their fans buy tickets hoping to be at the game when they do. The Mets sold more than 10,000 extra tickets for last night�s game at Shea Stadium because they had lost all three weekend games in Pittsburgh and still needed one victory to wrap up first place in the National League East. The Philadelphia Phillies, who have become expert at baseball business by saving their money instead of spending it wisely on winning players, had cooperated in the Mets� effort to make a little extra money by winning all three of their weekend games against Houston. That sweep kept the Phillies from being eliminated and the Mets from backing into the title. The Mets could have sold even more tickets and produced even more revenue by losing a few more games and counting on the Phillies to win a few more, but last night they put their business on the field ahead of their business at the box office and ended the division race by defeating Florida, 4-0. A crowd of 46,729 witnessed their team�s first step toward the ultimate goal, and Manager Willie Randolph, for one, appreciated the fans� assistance. �I knew we�d get a big lift from the fans today,� said Randolph, in his second year as manager and experiencing a division championship for the 16th time as a player, coach or manager. �It�s electric. It�s that feeling of knowing that they can take you to a different level in some ways. It wasn�t a real total packed house, but it felt like it in a lot of ways. Fans are nuts. They�re New York fans. They love your team. They�re very passionate about their team and you can feel it.� No one can blame the Mets for trying to make a few extra bucks. Fred Wilpon, the principal owner, extended himself this year, convinced by his general manager, Omar Minaya, that if he could spend the money to get the right players, the Mets could return to the postseason and perhaps outperform the perennial American League East champion Yankees. Now that they are there, though, the Mets have to deal with a slice of reality. They have recently had trouble beating left-handed pitchers. Left-handers started all three games the Mets lost in Pittsburgh, giving them a 5-14 record against lefties since July 31. Their record since then in games started by right-handed pitchers is drastically different, 23-3. Fortunately for the Mets last night, the Marlins started a right-hander, Brian Moehler, and Jos� Valent�n, a switch-hitter who has had difficulty batting right-handed recently, hit two home runs left-handed against him. With a runaway record, the Mets haven�t really had to dwell on the disparity. But other clubs have noticed the Mets� problems with left-handers and have acted accordingly. In a recent four-game series, for example, the Los Angeles Dodgers started two rookie left-handers, one making his first major league start, and both won. The veteran right-handers Brad Penny and Greg Maddux started the other two games, which the Mets won. In the weekend sweep in Pittsburgh, two of the left-handers the Pirates used have started regularly this season, the third only occasionally. �We happen to have a lot of left-handers,� said Jim Tracy, the Pirates� manager. �They have lots of offensive thunder. I felt if you�re going to hang in there with them, you have to create as many left-handed matchups as possible.� Asked several times if left-handed pitchers were the answer to beating the Mets, Tracy tried to skirt the issue before finally saying, �I�m not going to hurl a stone at the New York Mets and tell the world how to beat them.� There are a few teams in the league, however, whose scouts are watching closely. The problem those teams will have in the playoffs is finding left-handers to use. The Mets figure to play one of three teams in the first round � the Dodgers or the San Diego Padres as the West champions or the wild card, or the St. Louis Cardinals as the Central champs. The Cardinals have an entirely right-handed rotation. Their only left-handed starter, Mark Mulder, is done for the season after shoulder surgery last week. The Padres have one left-handed starter, David Wells. The Dodgers have three left-handers they could start against the Mets: the two rookies who beat them earlier this month, Hong-Chih Kuo and Eric Stults, and Mark Hendrickson, who lost his job in the rotation. It�s unlikely, however, that the Dodgers would opt to use any of them ahead of Penny, Maddux or Derek Lowe. The Phillies have the most left-handed starters, but they wouldn�t play the Mets until the second round, and they still have to win the wild card to get to the playoffs. Minaya, the architect of the team, dismissed the left-handed losses as too small a sample to be relevant, but results are results. When a team has a 23-3 record against one set of pitchers and a 5-14 mark against another, there�s something there. In July, the Mets won 8 of 10 games when they faced left-handers while winning 8 of 15 games that right-handers started. What happened between July and August? On July 31, the day of the nonwaiver trading deadline, the Mets traded the right-handed batter Xavier Nady to the Pirates. But Nady had not been the key to success against left-handers, not with his .264 overall batting average, 14 home runs and 40 runs batted in. It turns out that the biggest difference in games started by left-handers and right-handers since July 31 is not necessarily in the Mets� hitting but in their pitching. According to Elias Sports Bureau, in the 25 games started by right-handers before last night, the Mets� starting pitchers had a 3.74 earned run average. It was 3.14 before two games that the Mets split last week with Marlins right-handers. In the 19 games that left-handers started, the Mets� starting pitchers had a 7.18 E.R.A. In other words, the Mets might have scored fewer runs against left-handers than they did against right-handers, but their offensive output against left-handers might have been enough to win some of the games if their own pitchers had pitched more effectively. One way or the other, it�s all in the pitching.

MFS62 wrote: For those that missed it, he was interviewed and at the very end, he takes the champaign and goes "This is my first drink" and made a look to the camera like "yeah, right" It was Milledge and I saw that too and thought it was very funny.

Anybody see what happened in the Dodgers-Pods game last night? In a dogfight with the Padres for fitst place in the west and down by 4 runs going into the bottom of the 9th the Dodgers hit 4 consecutive homeruns to tie it. Pods took a 1 run lead in the tenth but Nomar hit a 2-run blast in the bottom of the inning to win it. Amazin'. OE: Never miind - Frayed Knot 'splains it better than I in the 'wild card' thread...

Yancy Street Gang wrote: The 2006 team can never be as special to me as the 1986 team was, mainly, I think, because I was 23 then, 43 now. I have a different perspective on baseball and on life in general, I guess. It's still a major thrill, but it's not consuming me the way it did twenty years ago. And I'm okay with that. For those of you for whom this is the first time around, I hope that 2006 ends up doing for you what 1986 did for me. What Yancy said ('cept I'm a lot younger. Was 22 then, 42 now....).

Hey, wasn't he Tonto?

Edgy DC wrote: Dear Carlos Beltran's Mole, Thank you. Sincerely, The Crane Pool Mole got a lot of air time last night. I think I saw it smile.

Am I alone in my thinking that last night's celebration was just a bit over the top? It looked to me like they had just won the World Series. I understand that its been a while and that there are a lot of players on the team that had never experienced it and all, but really they haven't really won anything substantial yet have they? If in fact they do win a pennant and the Series, how could any celebration be bigger than what we saw last night? I'll cut the team some slack but still I found myself last night going "okay, guys, enough already..."

YES! Thanks irish.