Elster88

Though if we do trade him in time for the playoffs, then Bobby V. can come back to manage for the postseason.

sharpie wrote: I'm abstaining from the vote. Right now, I'd say keep him. But, at the deadline, if we have other urgent needs I would say trade him. We can start a new poll then, too.

="soupcan"]="Johnny Dickshot"]Today's topic on Mike & The Mad dog -- Whether Met players have the right to fist-pump after a big play since Derek Jeter has been doing it for years in New York. Speaking of Francesa & Russo they had a classic moment yesterday. Russo has been complaining that the front page of the New York Times sports section has been devoted mostly to World Cup coverage ("That's a bad job by the Times, you can't do that in New York!"). Francesa yesterday, trying to calm his partner down retorts with: "Well, Doggie, you see I in fact read the New York Times and you have to understand what type of paper they are. The sports section is not the best but it focuses on other areas of sport. I wouldn't expect you to understand that but you see, I read the Times. Did I mention that I read the Times?" Francesa is just so much smarter than the rest of us. He is. He tells us so every day. As a M&MD apologist, my take was that it sounded like Francessa was making fun of Dog for crying about the New York Times when Dog doesn't even read the paper. Didn't seem so much like he was trying to make it seem like he's king of the world or smarter than who was listening. Just that he was smarter than Dog. FWIW, I find the NYTimes sportswriters to be no better than those at the rest of the papers.

Where can I buy that movie?

As Yancy is pointing out to me, bitching and complaining usually doesn't work around here anyway.

I'll start us off with a vote for keep him.

I'll put a straight yes-no in the poll, and the degrees can be discussed below.

Wow. Funny how you want me to ignore many posts that are tiresome and ugly to me, but that you didn't want to ignore my single ugly, tiresome post. No, it doesn't float my personal boat. Does that mean I shouldn't post how I feel? Or is it just that my words were too harsh for the delicate natures of the readers here? Yancy didn't seem too bothered by it. Yancy, if you were offended, I apologize. My opinion stands.

Willets Point wrote: ="Elster88"]Willets Point wrote: Freakin' Glavine. No Schaeffer for you. I'm sure some clown will give him a beer. They always do don't they? Now, now, I snuck in an edit before your post saying that I was just kidding.

They made a big point in the broadcast of showing all three fielders that were involved in the double play. They all pumped their fists afterward. And they showed Wagner pointing at Wright. And it worked on me. I love this team.

Delgado 2 Reyes 1.75 Lo Duca 1.75 Wagner 1 Chavez 0.75 Wright 0.75 Feliciano 0.75 Bradford 0.75 Beltran 0.5

Nah.

]"Who [among the 2006 Mets] would've hit Dwight?" [Darling] asked. "No one did for two years, so why would these guys be any different?" Come on Ronnie. The 1986 version of Doc was hittable. ....and then Keith goes on to say the exact same thing I just said about Dwight to make a point about Pedro. ]Asked for a point-blank answer, Hernandez said, "Well, are you asking me if we could hit Pedro today or Pedro in his prime?" Pedro in his prime, was the answer. "Well, no, but no one could hit him," Hernandez said. "But if we faced Pedro today, I think it would've been interesting." Can't have it both ways, fellas.

]The manager uses the Yankees' near collapse in 2000 -- they almost blew the nine-game lead they held on Sept. 13 -- as proof that pennant races are never won in June. Not true. Torre specifically rested almost all of his starters and Mariano specifically because no matter how bad they played their lead was enough to get them into the playoffs.

Keeping a daily count of magic number makes for a really, really, ugly and uninteresting thread.

Two things stick out from yesterday's game that may be difficult to read in a box score: David Wright made a huge play in the ninth. If you didn't see it in the highlights, check it out on nymets.com. Runner on first, made a diving stop down the line. That would've been a sure double to put runners on second and third.. Even though it may not have played out the same way if he hadn't made the play, the next batter up got a hit which would've tied it. Bradford came into a tie game with the bases loaded and one out, and did not allow a runner to score. (For the year, he has now allowed one inherited runner to score out of 21.)

Nah, I can do it. EDIT: .251 AVG/.326 OBP/.413 SLG//.739 OPS 29 BB, (projected 74.57)

Met 6th: 6 R, 4H, 1BB Top 6TH B:0 S:0 O:0 David Wright homers (12) on a fly ball to left field. Top 6TH B:2 S:0 O:0 Jose Valentin doubles (8) on a line drive to center fielder Aaron Rowand. Top 6TH B:0 S:0 O:0 Endy Chavez hits a sacrifice bunt. Fielding error by first baseman Ryan Howard. Jose Valentin to 3rd. Endy Chavez to 1st. Top 6TH B:0 S:1 O:0 Lastings Milledge hit by pitch. Endy Chavez to 2nd. Top 6TH B:0 S:0 O:0 Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Julio Franco replaces Chad Bradford. Top 6TH B:0 S:0 O:0 Pitcher Change: Brian Sanches replaces Ryan Madson, batting 9th. Top 6TH B:2 S:2 O:1 Julio Franco lines out to second baseman Chase Utley. Jose Valentin scores. Endy Chavez to 3rd. Lastings Milledge to 2nd. Throwing error by second baseman Chase Utley. Top 6TH B:4 S:0 O:1 Brian Sanches intentionally walks Jose Reyes. Top 6TH B:1 S:2 O:1 Paul Lo Duca singles on a ground ball to third baseman David Bell. Endy Chavez scores. Lastings Milledge to 3rd. Jose Reyes to 2nd. Top 6TH B:0 S:0 O:1 Pitcher Change: Aaron Fultz replaces Brian Sanches, batting 9th. Top 6TH B:0 S:0 O:1 Carlos Beltran reaches on force attempt, throwing error by third baseman David Bell. Lastings Milledge scores. Jose Reyes scores. Paul Lo Duca to 2nd. Top 6TH B:0 S:0 O:1 Carlos Delgado singles on a line drive to right fielder Bobby Abreu. Paul Lo Duca to 3rd. Carlos Beltran to 2nd. Top 6TH B:1 S:1 O:2 David Wright pops out to first baseman Ryan Howard. Top 6TH B:1 S:3 O:3 Jose Valentin strikes out swinging.

Willets Point wrote: Freakin' Glavine. No Schaeffer for you. I'm sure some clown will give him a beer. EDIT: J/K I WOULD NEVER TELL SOMEONE HOW TO VOTE!!!!

If you had told me at the beginning of the year that at any point this season that our 6-7 hitters in the starting lineup would be Valentin-Chavez I probably would've thrown up.

A good throw gets Wright there, trying to steal second. The one-hopper that Fasano threw STILL woulda got him if Rollins had caught it.

Let's see some stats.

Is that the first back-to-back by the Carloses this year? Delgado started slumping right about as Beltran found his power stroke.

Delgado's was NOT the result of the homer dome. Second decker.

That's the homer dome at work, no? The gaps are pretty close in.