Elster88

I was thinking more about AL teams off the top of my head. I, too like our chances in the NL. But if you're going purely off of the top two ERAs on a team, you forgot to list New York. Martinez 3.59 Glavine 3.97 Not sure that we fit your criteria either.

I'm guessing that they photoshopped some Pittsburgh stuff on Nady. Otherwise he managed to take that picture within minutes of the trade being announced.

metsmarathon wrote: heck, what teams really even have two? Quite a few, I'd guess without looking.

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That's a great one Z!

I don't understand why people say it like that. I don't care who does it, and I don't have much more faith in Peterson than anyone else.

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I think that while Omar tends to pay full retail in many of the deals he makes, his shopping bag usually contains an item that might just be bargain. He knew more than I did about Sanchez and Maine. Maybe I can give him the benefit of the doubt for now. And the fact that he almost got that Oswalt deal done makes me like him more. Oswalt is the only type of player I would've wanted Milledge traded for.

Yeah Oswalt on the team would've been pretty damn cool.

RealityChuck wrote: Also, the team now has to resign Cliff Floyd for next year. Or someone else. Either way, I'd rather have a cheap Nady and spend the money on pitching. And I'd rather have a cheap Nady over a cheap Floyd. I'm a FloydFan, but I have to face that his body parts are fragile.

Zvon wrote: Johnny Dickshot wrote: Nady wasn't a great defender. One stahead suggested Chavez so far has added as much value playing the postion defensively to make up for Nady's considerable offensive advantage, tho that assumes those levels, particularly Chavez' O, stay constant. I dont mind seeing what Chavez can do on an everyday basis. Though I'd like to imagine differently, my guess is that he would return to his career norms. They always do.

Edgy DC wrote: we're just whizzing by happy assumptions the current quality of Milledge's O and D. That's what I was thinking.

smg58 wrote: Our defense is upgraded considerably by this. Um. What?

]he could return in September, according to general manager Omar Minaya. Wow, I'm even more angry.

Cashman is making Mad Dog look like a fool right now. It's highly enjoyable.

My hand is not raised.

The FAN 20/20 flash at 4:20 did not mention a Linebrink deal.

I don't see how you can write off Perez so easily. He's only 25 and his pitching coach has been fucking with him incessantly since 2004. At the very least, he's a young guy with upside. He could be good. I just don't think he will. And I generally don't think a "could be" guy should be considered as a huge part of the equation when considering a trade. Especially not one who just gave up, what was it, 8 runs in a third of an innning...in AAA.

Vic Sage wrote: Nady was a serviceable RFer who'll likely be replaced in the lineup by Milledge (mostly). I don't see a big dropoff there, and there's a possiblity of much greater production from the 5-tool rookie. ... I don't mind giving Nady's job to Milledge, but we could have filled the RHP hole from within and moved Nady for a decent prospect or 2, if we were so anxious to dump him, after dumping Cammy's salary to acquire hm in the first place. I disagree with this analysis for two reasons: 1. I think the dropoff from Nady to Milledge is huge right now. I don't think Milledge is ready for playoff baseball with either offensively or defensively. Of course that can change in the future, but I'm not comfortable with Milledge in the lineup come playoff time. 2. I saw Milledge replacing Floyd next year, and Nady staying on the team. Now we replace Nady with Milledge, and have to find another outfielder next year if Floyd moves on.

I think what I said was unclear. I didn't mean to say we should've gotten Abreu. I just meant to use it as an example of what an All-Star outfielder just went for in a trade, and comparing it to what our productive outfielder went for in a trade.

Gwreck wrote: Elster88 wrote: I look at it this way, too. The Yankees got Abreu for...hmmm, let's see, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Assuming that the Phillies were happy to trade intradivision, the Mets could've hade Abreu too. It was a pure salary dump. Irrelevant to this discussion I think. Irrelevant may be a little strong. My point is that the Mets didn't need to give up Nady to get Robo. If they did have to, they shouldn't have done it.

Oh yeah, hate for me, too. My comments from the other thread: Elster88 wrote: Rotblatt wrote: Maybe we can trade Bell for someone like Robo in a salary dump? You see, this is the trade we should have made. Why the hell do you give up Nady for a 42 (43?) year old middle reliever? I know Nady's not an All-Star or anything but come on. GMs shouldn't panic.

I look at it this way, too. The Yankees got Abreu for...hmmm, let's see, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. We gave up our #7 hitter, (#6 when Floyd is out, which has been just over 1/4 of the season so far) for a 42 year old middle reliever.

Taking everything into consideration, what do you think of the trade. Initial reactions are welcome, long-winded thought out essays are too. There is no weenie-option in this poll.

Rotblatt wrote: Maybe we can trade Bell for someone like Robo in a salary dump? You see, this is the trade we should have made. Why the hell do you give up Nady for a 42 (43?) year old middle reliever? I know Nady's not an All-Star or anything but come on. GMs shouldn't panic.

Goddammit. How about, no Met ever takes a taxicab anywhere for the rest of my life?