Bret Sabermetric wrote: Usually, don't you expect some glove from batters in the 7 and 8 (w)holes? If you're not putting Nady and Matsui for their offense, why are they in the lineup? Thats a rediculous post Bret. Its Bret bait. Okay-game dont start till eight.. Ill take the bait. Because thats our starting nine at this point in time. Should we move our best glovemen down in the order? Yea, lets bat Beltran 7th cuz of that fine glove of his. A line up is a purely offensive stratigical thing where you work in your strengths and weaknesses where they can best be in a position to help the team produce, and you use the balance of talent, such as bat as opposed to glove, in a way that makes that gloveman hurt you the least at the plate, so he can help you the most in the field. Thats not the case here. (the days of carrying a glove man in the everyday lineup may be a thing of the past. These days-they are late inning replacements) You may have a point about Nady being so low, but as stated here....where do we put him? If Floyd dont snap out of his funk, in front of him, I suppose. But Cliffs 1st game back after his lil vacation, he should be given that 6th slot. If I was running the show the lineup would be different, but Willie has already proved me wrong with what he's gotten out of LoDuca in the 2nd slot. So good thing Im not. Id be more like: Reyes SS Beltran C Wright 3B Delgado 1B Nady RF Floyd LF Lo Duca C Matsui 2B Pitcher P ...and Reyes on a short leash at this point. I think Id shuffle him afew times just to get him on his toes in the lead off spot. Dare I say with Matsui? With Floyds current performance I, as Willie is, would be trying this and that and wondering what the hell else I could do to get him hitting. Cause you just dont give up on him this soon. I cant complain with what Willie has done. LoDuca has been awsum in the 2nd slot and has been a catylist for many productive innings. Im not nearly as concerned about our lineup or offense as I am about our pitching.