Centerfield wrote: I know I'm in the minority here, but I was, and remain, fairly positive on Jerry Manuel. He was not a great tactician, in fact, was pretty bad at times. The bunting, bad bullpen management, a few times I remember him inserting a pinch runner a few plays after the fact that made you wonder if he was paying attention at all. Like his predecessor, couldn't figure out Feliciano versus lefties = good, Feliciano versus righties = bad. I did not see, however, that he was any worse at these things than many of his peers. "Bunting=Fundamental Baseball" and "Don't use your closer in a tie game on the road" are philosophies that are not exclusive to Manuel. On the other hand, he did a lot of things well, as compared to others. I will appreciate how he was a breath of fresh air after Willie Randolph. He was confident, personable, and whether he made the right choice or not, seemed to care enough to think things through. He seemed to relate to his players, and his disputes with them seemed few and far in between. Knew how to handle the NY media. Never played victim, never pointed fingers, and was classy to the very end. I never felt he was given the horses to really compete, but did a good job, not great, with what he was given. I'll be happy they dumped Jerry if they bring in Bobby V, or someone who's smarter. If they bring in just another guy, they haven't gained anything. Pretty much what CF said. ty, saved me a lot of typing. I will add further that he seemed to grasp that a certain brand of baseball was needed to excel at Citi Field. The small ball thinking that led to his obsession with using,...I'll go as far as to say, overusing the bunt. He wanted to force this team into a station to station unit, and to some extent this was a good thing, and to another it was a case of wearing blinders that excluded other strategies. It was a case of him playing chess with limited pieces. But he did not use the pieces he had in the most soundly strategical way. He stuck by his guns to the point that when they were empty he looked kind of foolish standing there with empty guns. I think he was kind of immature in his use of the doghouse. I some other of his behaviors as well. I thought him classy, and in a sense he is. Its all in CF's post. But I have heard him say some stuff in the last 48 hours that could only be designed to make sure Omar is fired alongside him, and that eats into my perception of him as classy. He wasn't wrong in what he said. He just didn't have to say it. We all know he was shortchanged on the personal he was given to contend with. I don't think he had to point that out to any of us Met fans. And most of us feel a change in GM is needed as well. On the whole I like(d) Jerry, but I think he was to ridged in his thinking, to set in his strategy, to tunneled in his vision. If he had all the right pieces and none of them fell over he would have looked much better, done much better. But then again, so would have any manager. A great manager excels when he does not have all the pieces he needs, when he is tested by injuries and other misfortunes. Jerry, in this tour of duty as Mets manager, could barely be labeled a good manager. Almost, but that don't cut it. I'd really love to see Bobby V return and manage. Hell, even as GM with Wally on the field. Bobby V as GM would be crazyexcellent. Perez would have been out the door on his ass months ago. What I want to see the most is Jeff Wilpon having nothing to do with either. Whoever you hire, trust them to do thier jobs and know whats best. Stay out of the kitchen Jeff. Stay out of the pots and pans.