Ceetar

Rubin made THREE different allusions to Reyes leaving yesterday. This is why I don't read him (except apparently this morning. )

http://www.seamheads.com/ballparks/year.php?Year=2010&LgID=All&tab=pf3&sort=Runs1 has it 23rd multi-year: Batting - 97, Pitching - 98 at B-R, where 100 is average. (YSIII is multi-year: Batting - 110, Pitching - 108) ESPN this year has Citi at 0.923. 0.711 for home runs, and 0.955 for hits. 23rd for both. but .955 and 23 are not exactly terrible, and ESPN lists CBP as a just slightly pitcher friendly park so.. http://www.parkfactors.com/NYM has them at 26th with a 90 score for the three-year mark. That's closer to neutral than 11 other places. and i don't know how they break down runs/HR but they seem to factor in weather some how. (I'm sure that's precise and accurate right? It's hard to trust park factors too much, with all the random variation in weather and players in small samples, and even 3 years is still a fairly small sample. It's like judging Pagan's UZR just on 2011.faulty stat. The Mets have struggled at home this year, certainly suppressing the offensive numbers and hurting the park factor. You could make the case that it's because of Citi Field that they're losing, but I just don't see that. It's not like the Mets looked good at so many of these home games and just couldn't muscle it out, nor did the Great Wall of Flushing scare David Wright into making defensive errors.

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: So I guess Julio Teheran joins Miguel Cairo, current Detroit 2B Jose Santiago, along with retired players like Jose Lima, and Claudell Washington in a fairly small ML club. Place names? Later Alex Trebek would ask you to be a little more specific before he'd give you credit for a correct response. Capitals presumably.

G-Fafif wrote: Catharsis would make a good celebrity couple baby name. Cartharsis Jones.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Y'know it'd be cathartic to knock this club out of the playoffs. They're not any good anyhow. real catharsis is winning out. including Sweeping the stupid Phillies away from the 'better than '86' thing. also, starting their death spiral for the first round.

David Wright: still awesom.e 2-run homer gives them the lead. (okay, it's the top of the first still) Reyes also got a hit. Why isn't Turner playing at his own field?

mlb.tv free game tonight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: No it almost looked as though they willingly stopped playing around and moved out of the shot. When does that happen at a sporting contest? When you're wife notices you?

Not quite. I'm not talking about getting average pitchers and hoping Citi Field masks their deficiencies. It won't. They might give up less home runs, but they'll give up the same amount (or more) of line drives and runs. But Tim Lincecum should have less damaging fly balls than he would at Yankee Stadium. When a batter hits the ball in the air, there's less of a chance of it carrying out in Citi Field. Citi Field inhibits fly balls from being beneficial, but it's still average/good for line drives. There's always luck involved, but in general well struck balls/line drives are more likely to be hits, and fly balls are more likely to be outs. Good pitchers give up less line drives, and less of their fly balls will end up as home runs. though I'm not convinced players consider the park too hard when they sign. Lee went to Philly and CC went to Yankee Stadium.

Except the data suggests that Citi Field scoring is pretty neutral. Homer unfriendly, but scoring neutral. Couple that with the thought that fly ball to HR ratios may be pretty random, even for good pitchers, and you've got a park that doesn't inhibit scoring, but minimizes the fly ball bad luck when a ball happens to hit a windstream and carry out. Bad pitchers are still going to give up runs, because they'll allow line drives into that much bigger gap, but batters that get under a ball won't automatically have a chance at a 3-run homer even if they didn't hit the pitch squarely. Also, the perception that sluggers wouldn't want to come here, if true, is preferably in my opinion to quality pitchers not wanting to come here.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Is that the Mets official 2012 calendar? Or some licensee's calendar? It's possible that the Mets had no input in the creation of this calendar. By next Spring, there'll be many Mets 2012 calendars on the market. It's officially licensed I believe, and I doubt the Mets had any input.

G-Fafif wrote: G-Fafif wrote: I feel like I've been stared at by Jeff Francoeur all of 2011. I refuse to buy the calendar. Actually, it's so easy to make a calendar of your own, I feel like a semi-ambitious person/blogger could take some of Michael Baron's images, someone's database of Mets birthdays/historical dates and make a pretty kickass calendar on Shutterfly that people would actually covet. i refuse to tell a thoughtful relative who bought it for me that half the guys on there are no longer or soon won't be Mets. yeah, my, at the time, 12 year old brother bought me one a couple of years ago. And that's why the thing sells; because of people like us that our friends and family know anything that says Mets on it is a good gift.

G-Fafif wrote: I feel like I've been stared at by Jeff Francoeur all of 2011. I refuse to buy the calendar. Actually, it's so easy to make a calendar of your own, I feel like a semi-ambitious person/blogger could take some of Michael Baron's images, someone's database of Mets birthdays/historical dates and make a pretty kickass calendar on Shutterfly that people would actually covet.

they went young this year, but I'm shocked they actually put any thought into it. Or was it just dumb luck that Brad Emaus isn't on it? I'm shocked Reyes isn't there. That's pretty much a gimme and they usually just pick top 12 most popular names and throw 'em up there.

Frayed Knot wrote: Those of you holding tickets for '9th inning' in the: when will David Wright make his error contest, please advance to the window to claim your winnings. I'm now worried about my over 77 bet that's seemed a pretty easy win up until about Sunday.

bmfc1 wrote: Howie is discussing the differences between winter and summer. I hope you're right Ceetar about shakeups. It's not going to be "Haha, we got rid of Bay" type shakesups, atlhough I suppose they'll try. But there are probably 40man issues that will neccesitate trades to create flexibility. Guys like Murphy, Turner, , Tejada, Pagan, Pelfrey. (both of who will be tendered contracts. Doesn't mean they won't be traded though) I'll take winter over summer. Hopefully Howie wasn't talking about the Islanders though.

bmfc1 wrote: Terry talked for months about how much this team cared. Well after Beltran was traded, that all went away. They're a bunch of minor leaguers. And where's Sandy these days? Any thoughts from the top? And a special "F you" on behalf of us Mets fans in the DC area. Oh, no point in talking now. But we'll probably hear a whole bunch just after the season. And expect some fun shakeups this offseason.

Whew, got 'out' of it. 3-1 Natty's.

Frayed Knot wrote: It's now reached the point where the opposing manager pulls his pitcher following a two-out bloop single. I guess that's now a sign that your guy is losing it. 'now'? That's been common for years. hey, look at that, a run.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I do agree that the first active team athlete making an "I'm gay" announcement-- and the wave that eventually follow him-- will have a much better impact than any PSA, but... hey, what do you want from them? If there are five straight guys who want to speak out against LGBT bullying, should they say nothing, simply because it makes less impact, or means less, than, say, SugarPants coming out? I don't know what the answer is. I don't know if a PSA is actually better than nothing. I do appreciate the effort and commend them for it (and the Mets for their own version of things) but I'm just not sure it's anything more than shouting into the wind.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ceetar wrote: the other point is that, how much does this message mean anyway? especially to gay teens. how do a bunch of closeted athletes know it gets better when they're too afraid to actually admit it themselves? Hypocrites, right? The whole world's full of phonies. Why say anything to anyone? /Leaves school, heads to New York //Calls up Sally Hayes, to see if she wants to run away Not saying they shouldn't say anything. But yeah, the It Gets Better videos are a little hypocritical.

Pascucci makes an error, then saves a Tejada error. defense?

here we go again.

Ashie62 wrote: How about Ike Davis at 1B for 162 games? How about 173 games?

attgig wrote: but i'd venture to say, offensive & defensive WAR wise, Bay would be better than murphy/evans/duda/anyone else mets have. You mean, Bay would be better than the second best of that list. As the best will likely be playing RF.