Ceetar

Edgy DC wrote: I'd be curious to see it, seeing as how the Yankees pay out crazy money in revenue sharing. and if the Yankees, instead of winning it all and easily making up the different in postseason revenue that year, had lost A-Rod and CC for 60% of the season and missed the playoffs. Because it's pretty clear the Yankees are feeling the economic pressure too. Lowering prices, talking about payroll and budgets, even lost this Japanese guy because they couldn't come to an agreement. (And what's to agree on besides money unless he just didn't want to play in NY?)

Fman99 wrote: Nymr83 wrote: Fuck PETA Tried that once. The key is to fill it up with sprouts and maybe some hummus. Wait, what? Wasn't that a banned Super Bowl commercial?

There are so many moving parts here it's mindboggling. That 70 million figure was reported a couple of times during the year. Although they said 60 earlier on, so it seems they underperformed their estimates. I don't think any of it mentioned what the figure was actually measuring though. I mean, the Wilpons could take a 20million cut of profits and claim it as team losses for all we know.

metirish wrote: Ceetar wrote: Madoff doesn't really factor in. That's more of a Wilpon thing. It didn't really affect the revenue/payroll formula, it just gave them more money to pay them with. How can you reconcile the beginning and ending of this sentence? it doesn't factor into the equation. Strictly from a "Are the Mets profitable" standpoint. The equation isn't (How Much the Mets Make +random investments)= (How much we pay to operate the team) The Madoff stuff was never part of Mets revenue. Or at least, it shouldn't have been. The idea (at least it is now) is to plan for your intake of money to = payroll. I suppose they probably put all the season ticket holder money into a Madoff account, and maybe they even calculated the return on that as part of the budget to match Mets expenses, but that change isn't going to suddenly make the Mets a 70 million dollar losing prospect.

Madoff doesn't really factor in. That's more of a Wilpon thing. It didn't really affect the revenue/payroll formula, it just gave them more money to pay them with. I don't know how they plummeted to losing 70million so fast, unless that numbers fudged in some way. Is it counting the Citi money? How exactly do SNY profits factor in? I'm not sure that info is public enough that anyone knows exactly what the total picture looks like. But bad timing with the economy. Prices go up, from healthcare for their employees, to electric bills and all that other overhead stuff. I'd guess there were expenses, things like extra scouts or that extra minor league team, that they 'paid for' via Madoff investment profits that now look like pretty bad deals. Are they now factoring in losses from those things into the 70million?

Edgy DC wrote: They lost $70 million. They've cut costs and I guess could survive another year in the red, but not that deep in the red. Like anybody, the key is the performance of the business. And CRG can't pitch.

although the Xerox commercials suggest he'd be a horrible writer. chicken scratch.

Edgy DC wrote: This is where my lack of studies in these matters come through. How does another debt coming due accelerate the process by which the corporation will transfer through bankruptcy? I would figure that would only bog matters down further. I guess not. I don't really know. beyond my paygrade. I guess in bankruptcy it just makes it messier having another pile of debt jump on? Did the Rangers file for bankruptcy? how long did that take?

Edgy DC wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Mets � Willets Point wrote: Either way, hopefully it's a sign of better fortunes for the team. seems hard for it to be worse right? either they'll help turn things around or help them sell if they can't afford the team. Either way should lead to a team that's able to spend. Wouldn't have picked you for a grass-is-greener guy. sorry, there's always the crab grass of the ultimate buyer being a stingy, horrible owner. I hear bad things about Dolan for instance. No need to apologize. I'm not afraid of a stingy horrible owner so much as a (1) a prolonged bankruptcy period where assets have to be liquidated to cover debts, (2) a detached corporation who needs to see black ink above all else every year. Beyond that, stingy isn't a threat so much as conservative might be. Stupid as it was for the Wilpons to count on those fake profits, they sunk that money into the operations rather than paying off their principle. In this economy, I'm not sure folks will have the guts to keep reinvesting as the investments aren't paying off like the Pons did. But it's New York, and there'll likely be enough folks out there who want the vanity of pimping out the Mets in their name. Those folks will be bidding against the corporations, so we'll see. But again, the (1) and (2) above are what I fear might lies beyond the 'Pons. Not that 2014 is soon, but the Wilpons have impending debt there with Citi Field, as well as the Picard thing looming. I don't think there will be a prolonged bankruptcy period.

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Edgy DC wrote: Ceetar wrote: Mets � Willets Point wrote: Either way, hopefully it's a sign of better fortunes for the team. seems hard for it to be worse right? either they'll help turn things around or help them sell if they can't afford the team. Either way should lead to a team that's able to spend. Wouldn't have picked you for a grass-is-greener guy. sorry, there's always the crab grass of the ultimate buyer being a stingy, horrible owner. I hear bad things about Dolan for instance.

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Either way, hopefully it's a sign of better fortunes for the team. seems hard for it to be worse right? either they'll help turn things around or help them sell if they can't afford the team. Either way should lead to a team that's able to spend.

https://twitter.com/#!/DanDotLewis DanDotLewis has some thoughts on the matter too. Sounds like while it could mean that, it could also mean an attempt to 'turn things around' and retain ownership. Dan Lewis @AdamRubinESPN The *whole point* of a Ch11 re-org is to allow the owners to come up with a reorg plan which allows them to retain ownership. A lot of this is one sided because Rubin wouldn't make his tweets public and is apparently having a hissy fit about something Dan said. Dan Lewis @DanDotLewis @AdamRubinESPN The Wilpons would become debtor in possession in a Ch11 filing.

Can't believe he left out his appearance on the Colbert Report though. Especially as a feature on Colbert is appearing in the Times magazine.

Gwreck wrote: Hairston had two big clutch homers last year, and I thank him for those, but I'm not enthused by this move. 0.5 oWAR and -0.3 dWAR in 2011 -- I hope Sandy got him for cheap. reasonable. I think the .6 over league minimum is worth it. .5 oWar is actually pretty good for a backup no? It means he's adding value! the dWAR is so useless anyway, but not even worth looking at given his playing time.

attgig wrote: i thought harris' versatility would've been better than hairston's power. Hairston's versatile enough, bonus points for actually being usefully versatile whereas Harris is mostly useful for making sure they don't get penalized for only having 8 guys on the field or batting out of order.

Edgy DC wrote: Robert Carson Jeurys Familia Jeremy Hefner Jennry Mejia Garrett Olson Armando Rodriguez Chris Schwinden Who do you see getting the first call when a leak springs in the starting rotation? (Which should be around March 7.) random guess. Schwinden Hefner Olson Cahoon? (he not on 40?) Carson Familia Mejia Rodriguez (He's probably a candidate for removal from 40 man) I think there will probably be some other scrubby type pitchers they invite to camp too that slot in behind Schwinden if they stick around. (like Carrasco?)

MFS62 wrote: Joelmon Sherman reporting that Scott Hairston is coming back, pending a physical. Which to me brings up the question: Shouldn't the Mets have a pretty good file on his physical condition already? Edgy, I'm thinking that's baseball newspeak for "He has to pass a drug test". Later also want to make sure he didn't climb a mountain or snip his finger with a hedgeclipper in the offseason.

Netflix wrote: For the up-and-comers on Philadelphia's west side, West Philly Grounds is the place to be. There, Claire (Jennifer Love Hewitt) serves wisdom along with coffee and scones. The clientele comes to her with advice in love, life and careers. But even the neighborhood's favorite gathering place has a dark side. Jamie Kennedy, Alexa Vega, Madeline Carroll and Daniel Eric Gold co-star in writer-director Marc Erlbaum's slice-of-life drama. That description was horrible. It really has nothing to do with anything like that. this one's better IMDB wrote: When tragedy strikes the community surrounding a cafe in West Philadelphia, the cafe's regulars come to realize how intertwined their lives truly are. Either way, I enjoyed this one, despite the very blatant biblical allusions. The story basically takes place within the Cafe the entire time, except for one scene just outside. It goes day by day and you check in with most of the regulars as they develop their story and you learn new things about them all. A lot of interesting stories that I think were richly created, although some have very little to do all-in-all with the overall plot. Lots of beautiful women in the there too.

speaking of backup MIs the Mets may be interested in, Deadspin via Tedquarters gives us Jack Wilson kicking a football into a moving Jet Ski. http://deadspin.com/5872691/

Omar Quintanilla

metirish wrote: Lewin is a MFY fan Wikipedia says......oh the horror. That could be amusing in a "You can clearly tell Howie despises this guy" type of way.

this is who he was partying with tiffdeleon wrote: Former Playboy Bunny turned LA traffic reporter. Love my two rescued pups. Fan of pro and college football. Will buy anything pink!!! @redturn2 only if you give my friend back!!

fun times I guess.

Edgy DC wrote: Justin Turner tweeting his New Year's Eve fast times in Vegas and every escort agency in Nevada is tweeting back at him trying to hook their girls up with him. #scary every club too as well. Just tweeting Las Vegas usually gets you followed by the Sapphire Club.