Ceetar

Nymr83 wrote: Fuck "closers" - Shaw is a good pitcher, sign good pitchers. Worry about role nonsense later. agreed on this, but there's still a '$' tag attached to closers so why focus too much on one that you're paying for the title when you can grab a non-closer that is actually better and cheaper and can still, in fact, close?

Wil to win, love the mid-celebration photos. also Mile High since it's suitably punny and apt.

and we know virtually nothing, maybe actually nothing, about Ohtani's priorities. There's some thought he doesn't want to DH 3 times a week between starts, as that might be too much. But maybe that's bunk and he's fine with it. or maybe he's fine with it and it DOES become too much of a work load and hurts his numbers. I still think the NL actually makes the most sense, so that he gets his 100 PA as a pitcher. He can DH and pinch hit in the interim which will provide him regular almost daily AB and doesn't actually displace anyone. an AL team has to figure out a part time DH thing, and who's the part time guy otherwise? or do you just rotate and have no real DH but is that a disadvantage?

Fman99 wrote: How did Justin Turner do in his first 170 PA? This guy is a tithead. we don't have statcast data from that ancient time. But his hard hit % was low, so probably not that well. Of course, that was also pre-juiced ball era.

Nymr83 wrote: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21508043/mlb-players-association-agree-new-posting-system-shohei-ohtani according to this, a new system (which is one more year of the current system) was agreed to, but needs the sign-off of all 30 clubs - if i'm a club without max bonus money I would VETO this shit and take my chances with Ohtani waiting til next year when I too could pay him. A. the extension was already agreed to, it just needed union approval, so that can't really be vetoed. B. pool money may not even matter at all C. Even if pool money does matter and you could max out next year, so would a billion other clubs. The deciding factors for Ohtani will likely be something else, and if you don't have it this year, 5 more million next year won't do it. D. It seems unlikely Ohtani would post next year, only one year removed from unrestricted free agency.

Centerfield wrote: I guess the part that confused me was his claim that exit velocity settles in after 50 balls in play. well, that's statistics. Calculating exit velocity as you go along during the season, right around 50 balls in play is where the values pretty much exactly resemble the overall season averages. But that's only for in-season values. We don't know how 2017 velocities predict 2018 ones, especially inregards to aging. So yes, a 21 year old is expected to age and mature. initial research seems to suggest that the floor/average values tend to increase at first, but the peak only comes down. Of course there's a somewhat limited sample of pre-fully developed players that have enough data to really figure this out for sure. I'd guess the idea is that if you're a major league player, you'll occasionally catch up to the flat fastball and hit it as hard as you can, at some point, during a season. You're not going to square it up better with more practice, you pretty much did it perfectly, so your aging dying body will only decrease, unless perhaps Rosario is still on the upswing portion of growth and aging and then maybe he can tweak some more out of it? man, I'd love to have some Bonds exit velocities.

Edgy MD wrote: Ceetar wrote: limited, but not no, value. so yeah. Joelmon? what?

limited, but not no, value. so yeah. The majority of the expectation of Rosario is still based of scouting/minors but those 170 PA happened, and count. How much do they count? that's the article.

Frayed Knot wrote: So just reading the comments here on the article and not the article itself, I gather it's this guy deciding to re-think Rosario entirely based on 170 PAs? Yeah, I'll pass. not at all. It digs into those 170 PAs to see what, if anything, we can learn. Mostly determined that the data is still incomplete but has some concerns, and any additional concerns means an expected tempered range of expectations.

i trust Eno but I'm biased. But the logic is generally sound, he DID debut, those stats DO count, and it tempers expectations. he didn't walk. things like exit velocity are pretty stable pretty fast. But he could certainly still make an adjustment under a new hitting coach, but no matter what you thought he'd be, you gotta temper it somewhat based on him not doing something.

Edgy MD wrote: CLAY IT AIN'T SO is a criminally bad headline. I object to its existence! agreed, and they tripled-down on it. ugh.

Would Walker get a similar salary? I keep thinking he's worth more than that. Kinsler's a pretty good player, but there does seem to be some indication he's maybe lost some bat speed.

Hall rejects a mandatory open ballot initiative by the BBWAA. Joe Morgan sends letter to voters to try to influence their vote.

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Nymr83 wrote: Andruw would be a strong consideration as well, if I had more room or if you talked me out of someone. Vizquel was probably my last one in in that regard. It's a subjective contest, a way to remember guys, and a way to honor baseball. Curt Schilling is a garbage human and doesn't deserve any attention or audience. Throw Jones or Omar in there.

G-Fafif wrote: Use of GRAND for not Granderson and BAT MAN for not Harvey is confusing out of context. the 'pow' in the top left is neat though, even if Super Judge makes no sense.

must be Bonds first time on the ballot, he's a shoe in.

he struck out a third of the lefties that faced him last year. It was the minors, but those splits are good. Watch out Blevins

yes, but the lack of agreement is about Otani's compensation, not necessarily the posting fee. All these rules we've been discussing might actually be altered or for naught.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The truth is it could go either way though. I just saw a big long post that said the Mets basically don't need to worry about signing another possible corner OF guy now.

Whether or not he can be posted is apparently still up in the air and the players association supposedly has set a hard deadline of Monday to agree on the posting rules. This is for what the Japanese team gets out of it, not Otani. Actually I might have this backwards.

G-Fafif wrote: It's fine to not care about who wore 36 if numbers don't count for you. Those who don't know the one outstanding Met to wear 36, however, probably shouldn't bring up who previously wore 36 on a podcast in the first place. well yeah, agreed on that. also maybe look it up first?

Leiter was... 22? I don't think I knew Koosman was 36. See, his number isn't on the wall, retired, prominent anywhere. So when we talk about Koosman we don't talk about 36. If you'd like to argue, that's fine. I'd say it's on the older fans/historians/team that are neglecting spreading his story over browbeating us with Seaver over and over again. for some players it's part of the brand. For others it's just a way to be marked in the scorecard.

because numbers aren't really important?

do you think Ricky routinely goes skeleton for Halloween?