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Beh. Two out walk to Utley. Ryan "Nostrils" Howard up.

Can of corn. One down. The Cryin Hawaiian is up.

Go Frankie. Put these fuckers to bed.

The Amstel commercial is the current winner of the "overplayed and super-irritating SNY advertisement."

So far so good. Putz throwing strikes. Crappy Miguel Cairo at the dish to pinch hit.

Wow, Mets pitchers getting it done at the dish tonight. Let's see a clutch hit. Ihave visions of the 3 HR game Reyes had here a few years back.

="soupcan":5hh3wds1]I've made two not so difficult predictions this year that have come true - I said that the Mets would not win the third game against Nats rookie Jordan Zimmerman and I predicted that the Met bats would come to life and John Maine would pitch well against the Marlins. Both were stated on the pages of this forum (you could look 'em up). My third prediction for this young season is that the band box-like confines of Citizens Bank Park will be the cure for what's ailing the Mets. They will rock the park (and the Park) tonight while Pelfrey coaxes groundball out after groundball out from the Phillies.[/quote:5hh3wds1] Soup is wise. Edgy DC May 01 2009 12:31 PM Soup is good for what ails ya. Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 12:50 PM So is a surprise appearance by Fay Wray!! It's like Thanksgiving in May! Thanks for that, Irish! themetfairy May 01 2009 01:15 PM Whatever happened to Fay Wray? Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 01:16 PM Sadly, she's dead at the present time. themetfairy May 01 2009 01:21 PM It was actually a Rocky Horror Picture Show reference.... Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 01:21 PM Oh. Never saw it. soupcan May 01 2009 08:44 PM ="soupcan":1bg314wg]My third prediction for this young season is that the band box-like confines of Citizens Bank Park will be the cure for what's ailing the Mets. They will rock the park (and the Park) tonight while Pelfrey coaxes groundball out after groundball out from the Phillies.[/quote:1bg314wg] HA! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 08:51 PM Use your power well and wisely, Soup... 'cause it's kinda freakin' me out.

="Edgy DC":10swftyk]I don't think there's anything new about pitch counts or that they're a bad idea. I just ask that they need to set limits with a more complex thought process than "100 sure sounds like a lot."[/quote:10swftyk] I blame the Base 10 number system. If we were binary, like computers, I suspect Johan would be allowed to throw 10000000 (translation = 128) pitches before he got the hook. Centerfield May 08 2009 08:43 AM We get on him when he's bad, so to be fair, we should mention it when he does something we like. I LOVE that Manuel got tossed last night after the Victorino con job. That ump is an idiot, and coupled with the blown DP call from before, absolutely deserved the mouthful Jerry gave him. I hope the ump watched both replays afterwards and felt like an asshole. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 08 2009 08:56 AM ="Centerfield":1ki0y39w]We get on him when he's bad, so to be fair, we should mention it when he does something we like. I LOVE that Manuel got tossed last night after the Victorino con job. That ump is an idiot, and coupled with the blown DP call from before, absolutely deserved the mouthful Jerry gave him. I hope the ump watched both replays afterwards and felt like an asshole.[/quote:1ki0y39w] Agreed. So... who do give the stinkeye for using a 37-million-dollar arm for a fourth night in a row with Putz (and Stokes) very much available to alterna-close? Centerfield May 08 2009 09:00 AM I have no problem with using him there. This is the Phils after all. Give him tonight, and maybe even tomorrow off. Frayed Knot May 08 2009 09:03 AM I didn't have a problem with using him either. It just suxx that the ump put us into a situation that led to using him. metirish May 08 2009 09:07 AM Rodriguez says he wanted the ball , do i believe that? I'm going to take him at his word. Manuel swears that Rodriguez will not pitch tonight. My wife was watching the game with me and after Rodriguez got the last out and did his emotional thing she said he screamed Pu�eta at the sky. She explained to me it's equivalent to screaming " hell yeah" in that situation as Rodriguez was excited about the out. Pu�eta though has many meanings . LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 08 2009 09:13 AM ="metirish"]Rodriguez says he wanted the ball , do i believe that? I'm going to take him at his word. Manuel swears that Rodriguez will not pitch tonight. My wife was watching the game with me and after Rodriguez got the last out and did his emotional thing she said he screamed Pu�eta at the sky. She explained to me it's equivalent to screaming " hell yeah" in that situation as Rodriguez was excited about the out. Pu�eta though has many meanings . My Filipino grandfather used to scream it at the television when a wrestler would pause too long on the top ropes, preening, before frog-splashing an opponent. I believe that it's usually meant to express disappointment or consternation, no? [As in, "Four days in a row? Pu�eta, isn't why we got a second closer in the first place?"] metirish May 08 2009 09:25 AM ] I believe that it's usually meant to express disappointment or consternation, no? Yes , but it also can be used to express excitement , missus also told me it means " jacking off" too batmagadanleadoff May 08 2009 09:27 AM Anybody take notice of Church striking out in the bottom of the eighth with a runner on first and nobody out after digging himself into an 0-2 hole with two bad sac bunt attempts? It appears as if Manuel favors the late inning sac bunt this season, what with Putz and K-Rod available to finish the game. This is the third time I remember Manuel using this strategy in the last two weeks. I didn't like this sac bunt attempt. Church had been double-switched into the 9th spot in the batting order: therefore, the top of the order followed. Whenever the ninth batter, or top of the order batter leads off the inning by getting on base, the team is especially poised for a big inning. I was able to tolerate the tactic more than usual only because the Mets already had a two run lead. But I would've been dead set against that bunt had the game been tied. Fman99 May 08 2009 09:32 AM ="metirish"]] I believe that it's usually meant to express disappointment or consternation, no? Yes , but it also can be used to express excitement , missus also told me it means " jacking off" too I should've read this whole thread before I started yelling "pu�eta" here at work. Whoopsie. John Cougar Lunchbucket May 08 2009 09:32 AM Actually, the Church bunt was a Sandy Alomar call, since Jerry had been run by that point. As I've said here a million times already there has to cpome a point where they start analyzing the sac bunt based on the chance they can even do it properly, much less its success when executed. Hate hate hate it. Edgy DC May 08 2009 09:33 AM I noticed. I liked it not. metirish May 08 2009 09:38 AM It may have been Manuel that called it , he could well have been in the tunnel shouting " Jesus Christ Sandy Church needs to put down a sac bunt". batmagadanleadoff May 08 2009 09:38 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":352csoiu]Actually, the Church bunt was a Sandy Alomar call, since Jerry had been run by that point. As I've said here a million times already there has to cpome a point where they start analyzing the sac bunt based on the chance they can even do it properly, much less its success when executed. Hate hate hate it.[/quote:352csoiu] I can't prove it, but I'd bet that Manuel "managed" to call for that sac bunt from wherever he was, underneath the Citi Field stands. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 08 2009 09:53 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Actually, the Church bunt was a Sandy Alomar call, since Jerry had been run by that point. As I've said here a million times already there has to cpome a point where they start analyzing the sac bunt based on the chance they can even do it properly, much less its success when executed. Hate hate hate it. I can't prove it, but I'd bet that Manuel "managed" to call for that sac bunt from wherever he was, underneath the Citi Field stands. Wearing a fake second beard?

And you thought only New York reporters were allowed to shit on us and our team. Think again! This dreck courtesy of Philadelphia Inquirer's John Gonzalez, or as I prefer, AssFace****Head. ]Poor Mets, poor fans By John Gonzalez Inquirer Columnist Dear Mets fans, It's been a while since you last came to visit. You weren't missed all that much. We love to hate each other, sure, but it was kind of nice without you. This is your first trip to town since last August. Philly has been a little busy since then. There was the World Series and the parade and the ring ceremony and, man, it just hasn't stopped. You probably saw most of it on TV since you didn't have much else to do after September. You remember all the pageantry that goes along with being a world champion, right? No? Well, maybe you have some faded pictures of 1986 in a shoebox somewhere. This might be overstepping our relationship, but can we tell you something? You guys seem awfully haggard. It looks like you haven't slept much lately. Guess choking away two straight division titles will keep you up at night. It has to be brutal to be a Mets fan. The Fightin's got off to a typically slow start and still managed to finish the first month of the season with an 11-9 record. That's where they were at this point last year - two games over .500 - and we all know how 2008 worked out for the Phils. Meanwhile, the Mets enter the series having lost seven of their last 10. They're three games under .500 and looking sloppier every day. Their season certainly hasn't gone over well with the New York media. Stories about the Mets are frequently peppered with words such as "pressure" and "anxiety" and "failure." And the headlines are even more vicious: A Strange and Sad Season Mets Remain Amazin'ly Powerless Mets Can Produce Only More Frustration And the best of the lot . . . Ya Gotta Be Kidding Things have gotten so ugly that David Wright has been openly booed at Citi Field. (A little advice: that kind of behavior is so unbecoming. You should try to be more like us - cool and calm and supportive.) A blogger for the Newark Star-Ledger even wrote that Wright is "the face of panic in New York's slow start." How far the all-star has fallen. Jerry Manuel has also taken a lot of heat. Last week, one of you guys made national news when you held up a homemade sign. It was an orange poster board with black letters and a simple, direct message: "Fire J. Manuel." The Mets fascist security guards didn't like that very much, and they confiscated the sign. On top of all that, you're forced to pay outrageous prices to watch bad baseball at Citi Field - the not-so-impressive new park that the team plunked down next to a shanty town of shabby auto body shops. Even visitors from Detroit would find that area crummy. While you're here on your mini-vacation, try to relax. Have a Schmitter and a few lagers and forget about your troubles at home. Soon enough, you'll be on the Jersey Turnpike again - headed back to New York to watch the Amazin's bungle their way through another season. That's an awfully grim fate. For once, we won't blame you guys for making the trip down to Philly. Generally it bugs us. But if we had it that rough, we'd want to get away, too. Sincerely, Fightin's fans

="Frayed Knot"]Well, April almost done (didn't figure in Thursday's games) so I figured this off-day would be as good a time as any to look at how the rest of the league is doing. Giants: 10-10; 77 RS v 80 RA When your best hitters are Bengie Molina (better BA than OBA) and Pedro Sandoval (who?) you need all the pitching you can get. Good starts from Jonathan Sanchez, Matt Cain, and, after a rough first outing, Tim Lincecum. Modest results at best from vets Zito & Johnson. It's Pablo, not Pedro Sandoval. Nice recap. Makes me wish, again, that we would go back to the balanced schedule, play each NL team 11-12 times, and kick interleague play to the street.

Jason Vargas, called up from AAA by Seattle to bolster their bullpen. (Merged from Mets Who Continue (Split), 5/27/2009)

Well played Mr. Rogers. I like the idea of missing Myers and Hamels, and getting a whack at Blanton, Moyer and Park all of whom have been very hittable this year so far. Should be a slugfest weekend.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2bs46cgj]I thought it was swine flu. Hey, not for nothing but Putz hasn't exactly looked like the steal everyone said he'd be. This may have been a weird case but generally trading for relief pitchers is the act of maniacs.[/quote:2bs46cgj] He sure does look like the 2008 Putz, not the shiny 2006-7 model that consistently blew people's doors off. I miss Joe Smith. Though his numbers in Cleveland are pretty awful (6 1/3 IP, 5 BB, 6 K, 7.11 ERA). G-Fafif Apr 30 2009 12:54 PM Admittedly unlikely, possibly clinically insane Met makeover proposal here. ]1) The Mets send David Wright, Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran, Tim Redding and Ramon Castro to Philadelphia for Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino and Ryan Howard. 2) The Mets send Carlos Delgado, Brian Schneider, John Maine, Brad Holt and Ike Davis to Toronto for Roy Halladay, Rod Barajas and Kevin Millar. In concomitant moves, the Mets shift Daniel Murphy to third base, call up Fernando Martinez and have Oliver Perez and Bobby Parnell switch roles. I think this is a flight of fancy. Or am I dead serious? I'm not sure. Edgy DC Apr 30 2009 12:55 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":c9cs0sir]Hey, not for nothing but Putz hasn't exactly looked like the steal everyone said he'd be. This may have been a weird case but generally trading for relief pitchers is the act of maniacs.[/quote:c9cs0sir] I know I'm the crank of cranks here (I practically want to beat myself up), but lifting the top pitcher in the league for him seems to me the act of a maniac also. Benjamin Grimm Apr 30 2009 01:03 PM ="G-Fafif"]Admittedly unlikely, possibly clinically insane Met makeover proposal here. ]1) The Mets send David Wright, Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran, Tim Redding and Ramon Castro to Philadelphia for Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino and Ryan Howard. 2) The Mets send Carlos Delgado, Brian Schneider, John Maine, Brad Holt and Ike Davis to Toronto for Roy Halladay, Rod Barajas and Kevin Millar. In concomitant moves, the Mets shift Daniel Murphy to third base, call up Fernando Martinez and have Oliver Perez and Bobby Parnell switch roles. I think this is a flight of fancy. Or am I dead serious? I'm not sure. That would be the end of me as a fan, I think. I know that teams change personnel, but this would be too much at once. It would reinforce that they're a team of strangers and I think my interest would be shot. Perhaps. metirish Apr 30 2009 01:21 PM I'd do Halladay straight up for redding but that's it. Nymr83 Apr 30 2009 01:36 PM ="Benjamin Grimm"]="G-Fafif"]Admittedly unlikely, possibly clinically insane Met makeover proposal here. ]1) The Mets send David Wright, Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran, Tim Redding and Ramon Castro to Philadelphia for Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino and Ryan Howard. 2) The Mets send Carlos Delgado, Brian Schneider, John Maine, Brad Holt and Ike Davis to Toronto for Roy Halladay, Rod Barajas and Kevin Millar. In concomitant moves, the Mets shift Daniel Murphy to third base, call up Fernando Martinez and have Oliver Perez and Bobby Parnell switch roles. I think this is a flight of fancy. Or am I dead serious? I'm not sure. That would be the end of me as a fan, I think. I know that teams change personnel, but this would be too much at once. It would reinforce that they're a team of strangers and I think my interest would be shot. Perhaps. i agree with you re: the mockery of a trade with philadelphia, but would that mock trade with Torinto really bother you? Holt is a prospect, Delgado and Maine are hardly home-grown guys (Delgado to the blue jays would in fact be where he belongs) and Schnieder is neither homegrown nor good. Edgy DC Apr 30 2009 01:53 PM Schneider's a load, but he's my load! Sounds like we need a WATP thread. Nymr83 Apr 30 2009 02:02 PM ="Edgy DC":w89jswpc]Schneider's a load, but he's my load! Sounds like we need a WATP thread.[/quote:w89jswpc] Wacky Absurd Trade Proposals? Edgy DC Apr 30 2009 02:09 PM Close enough. Benjamin Grimm Apr 30 2009 02:16 PM ="Nymr83":eiyikd0l]I agree with you re: the mockery of a trade with philadelphia, but would that mock trade with Torinto really bother you? Holt is a prospect, Delgado and Maine are hardly home-grown guys (Delgado to the blue jays would in fact be where he belongs) and Schnieder is neither homegrown nor good.[/quote:eiyikd0l] It's really the combination of the two. I could roll with the Toronto trade. (Losing Seaver was far worse.) smg58 Apr 30 2009 05:57 PM ="G-Fafif":2scopwla]1) The Mets send David Wright, Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran, Tim Redding and Ramon Castro to Philadelphia for Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino and Ryan Howard. 2) The Mets send Carlos Delgado, Brian Schneider, John Maine, Brad Holt and Ike Davis to Toronto for Roy Halladay, Rod Barajas and Kevin Millar. In concomitant moves, the Mets shift Daniel Murphy to third base, call up Fernando Martinez and have Oliver Perez and Bobby Parnell switch roles. I think this is a flight of fancy. Or am I dead serious? I'm not sure.[/quote:2scopwla] I wouldn't expect to see Halladay in a Mets uniform as long as the Jays are winning and the Mets aren't. We should have been jealous of the Phillies' bullpen last year, not their position players. They scored exactly the same amount of runs as the Mets did, in a much friendlier park. I'm not sure who'd rather have Victorino than Beltran, or why. batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2009 06:29 PM ="smg58":39bribgv]We should have been jealous of the Phillies' bullpen last year, not their position players. They scored exactly the same amount of runs as the Mets did, in a much friendlier park. I'm not sure who'd rather have Victorino than Beltran, or why.[/quote:39bribgv] I agree. Overall, I don't think there's a damn signifcant difference between the Mets and the Phillies. Luck more than anything else, has designated one of these indistinguishable teams as the champs and the other, a bunch of choke artists.

Eight games on the docket today. Two AL tilts already started. Two NL East teams playing today (Marlins at Cubs, Cards at Nats). I will be an Angels fan tonight, rooting for the continued demise of the stupid Yankees.

To paraphrase Hahn, she's a couple scoops of fugly.

Oh my God! He retired the YANKEES! IN ORDER!!!! For fuck's sake. This kind of reverent pandering makes me want to grab Albom by his giant, weird tapir-style ears and drag him up and down the Shea rubble pile till he cries. Then, kick -> ****, punch -> neck, and leave him cryin upside down in the dirt mound, like Dynamo in The Running Man.

Santana 4 Tatis 1 Castro .5 Cora .5 Rodriguez .5 Reyes .5

More goodness about A-Roid, from ESPN quoting a story in the Snooz. Highlights include his propensity for growing round boobies and being a crappy tipper at Hooters. He actually is George Costanza, apparently. Read all about it.[/url:2s0nbwu0]

ESPN, the NY Times, all pinning this loss on Putz and the pen for their headlines. Forget about the 14 Mets left on base. Crikey.

Ugh. Boo. Castro has two hits and an RBI, he should be hitting here. 14 LOB.

Odd. Jerry's putting Omir in to hit for Ramon. He had to call him from the bullpen where he was warming up relievers.

Tatis got doinked. Castro called back to the dugout. Who's going to hit?

Well, that's great. Moved the runners up and all. Last chance with two outs. Tatis up.