Fman99

Sir Appalled's girlfriend is a hot YLDB. I'd poo in her MFY hat.

Mets fever, catch it! Then, as per 2009 as a season, get sick and die like it was AIDS.

This thread is more depressing than Angela's Ashes.

="seawolf17":3tmbu096]I just want this season to go away.[/quote:3tmbu096] I understand, the only thing left to play for is because the games are on the schedule. I don't want to hear "spoiler" crap. I try to take each game as an entity unto itself. Try to enjoy them as a single night, in summer, a game's on, Mets are playing, let's see if they can make a game of it. The kind of thing I'll be pining for in January. But they're so god damned bad at the dish. seawolf17 Aug 25 2009 08:38 PM ="Fman99":2o6fu428]="seawolf17":2o6fu428]I just want this season to go away.[/quote:2o6fu428] I understand, the only thing left to play for is because the games are on the schedule. I don't want to hear "spoiler" crap. I try to take each game as an entity unto itself. Try to enjoy them as a single night, in summer, a game's on, Mets are playing, let's see if they can make a game of it. The kind of thing I'll be pining for in January. But they're so god damned bad at the dish.[/quote:2o6fu428] Except that there's literally nobody left on this team that I care about. At all. I should tune in to see Anderson Hernandez and Fernando Tatis? Bleh. Valadius Aug 25 2009 08:56 PM Let's just play the kids and go home. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 26 2009 12:12 AM ="seawolf17":1t9v1igd]="Fman99":1t9v1igd]="seawolf17":1t9v1igd]I just want this season to go away.[/quote:1t9v1igd] I understand, the only thing left to play for is because the games are on the schedule. I don't want to hear "spoiler" crap. I try to take each game as an entity unto itself. Try to enjoy them as a single night, in summer, a game's on, Mets are playing, let's see if they can make a game of it. The kind of thing I'll be pining for in January. But they're so god damned bad at the dish.[/quote:1t9v1igd] Except that there's literally nobody left on this team that I care about. At all. I should tune in to see Anderson Hernandez and Fernando Tatis? Bleh.[/quote:1t9v1igd] To see if Francoeur and/or Santos can put up OBPs over .300 for the year? Failing that, there's always the mordant humor-- now that Johan's gone, I'm done feeling bad-- in seeing who'll go down next. Think of it as an orange-and-blue Summerstock edition of "Final Destination."

Sad ass night at the plate. Rinse, repeat.

Predicting now that the Madoff-Mets will go chizzeap for 2010. Not a single big name free agent will be signed, to play LF, 1B, or pitch. The roster will look something like this: Santos/cheap 2nd C Murphy (1B) Castillo Reyes Wright Beltran Francoeur Evans/Fartinez (LF) Pagan (4th OF) cheap MI option (Cora maybe? ugh) cheap CI option (Tatis again? ugh redux) Santana Pelf Maine O-Perez Niese/Nieve/scrub behind door #3 etc. Frankie Green Feliciano Stokes Parnell Dessens/Misch/etc. cheap bullpen filler No Dunn trade, no Molinas, no Dye, no nothing. This would bother me less, somehow, if they admitted they took a bath on the Madoff thing and that was restricting their ability to maintain their payroll. Not that it matters -- they back up for the truck for the wrong guy, again and again and again anyway. The alternative, non-Madoff, is they sign Vlad for 4/50 or something even though he's got not much left in the tank.

="HahnSolo":2mljooq0]="metirish":2mljooq0]My abiding memory is the stupidity over his entrance music and the utter stupidity of Mike and the Mad Dog over it.[/quote:2mljooq0] This. But on the field, I can't forget that Saturday afternoon implosion against the Yanks in 2006. 4-0 lead entering the 9th, single, walk, single, fly out, walk, walk, HBP. Mets lost in 11, with the immortal Jorge Julio taking the loss.[/quote:2mljooq0] First thing that comes to mind. All you remember with the closers are the meltdowns and misses. The next thing I thought of was him not being able to get on the field in Florida during the home stretch in 2007. For all of that, I mostly enjoyed watching him pitch. OlerudOwned Aug 25 2009 01:12 PM Game 2 of the 2006 NLCS was the first and only playoff game I've attended. So Taguchi only had 2 damned home runs in the '06 regular season. Buh. Benjamin Grimm Aug 25 2009 01:33 PM ="Valadius":3nyo3a2x]I really liked him, for whatever reason. One of the top three closers of his generation, giant upgrade over Looper.[/quote:3nyo3a2x] I guess. But I just can't get excited over closers. G-Fafif Aug 25 2009 01:59 PM Preserved a Glavine gem on Ralph Kiner Night. I didn't like Glavine, I wasn't crazy about Wagner, but I sure do love Ralph Kiner. Billy and Paulie embracing upon clinching of the Mets' first division title in 18 years, as if they were the ones who waited 18 years. Ryan Zimmerman preventing a 9-0 start in '06, though a) you can't prove it would have happened and 8-1 was pretty good. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 25 2009 02:09 PM ="Edgy DC"]I can't forget how angry I was that he was even in the game. It stunk of panic in a game the Mets had in hand. Ditto. One of the few times in my life where I could actually feel my face reddening. I got KYP Rook, the MFY 4-0 lead, and So Taguchi. I do have a few images of late summer 2006 that make me smile, though, to leaven it. Also: ]"Somebody want to tell me why the closer is being interviewed and I didn't even play," Wagner said in an expletive-laced tirade, "and why they are over there and not being interviewed? I got it; they're gone. (expletive) shocker." seawolf17 Aug 25 2009 02:12 PM He raises llamas; I've used "Billy Wagner's Llamas" as a fantasy team name in the past. Gwreck Aug 25 2009 02:21 PM I believe the animal in the avatar directly above your post is actually an alpaca. metirish Aug 25 2009 02:28 PM ="G-Fafif":1saux1au]Preserved a Glavine gem on Ralph Kiner Night. I didn't like Glavine, I wasn't crazy about Wagner, but I sure do love Ralph Kiner. Billy and Paulie embracing upon clinching of the Mets' first division title in 18 years, as if they were the ones who waited 18 years. Ryan Zimmerman preventing a 9-0 start in '06, though a) you can't prove it would have happened and 8-1 was pretty good.[/quote:1saux1au] I'll say it again, your ability to remember such specifics is amazing. It's only after I read your posts that I remember individual instances like that. I have a foggy memory of him mowing didn the Yankees 1 2 3 but don't ask me when. Farmer Ted Aug 25 2009 02:37 PM I never had a problem with Wagner other than the 2006 NLCS. Spoke his mind and didn't give a fuck about hurting anyone's feelings. I hope he knocks Papelbon's teeth out. Nymr83 Aug 25 2009 02:51 PM i thought this was supposed to be dead in the water and then i see a "memories of" thread. sadly the legacy of wagner to me is him not being there when the bullpen imploded down the stretch in 2008. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 25 2009 03:50 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":356z0pnq]I'll probably remember the venom that Johnny Lunchbucket feels for Billy.[/quote:356z0pnq] I don't want to come off as a hater, but my reason for "hating" Wagner was a little bit about how he burned every bridge in Philly and Houston on his way out of those towns; and left their fans heartbroken and betrayed, and how when he came to the Mets he was hailed as the kind of guy who wouldn't do that -- then did. In the end he was crap in the 06 postseason, not a great teammate, and ultimately fragile and unreliable. We'd have done just as well signing Braden Looper for his tenure here. Now watch him go set fire to the Red Sox. Edgy DC Aug 25 2009 05:44 PM 'Bucket, I'm sending you a facebook mail NOW!!!! Ashie62 Aug 25 2009 05:50 PM My memory of Wagner is belowing Pedros 3 run lead against the MFY'S in midsummer in 06 I beleive. I was there and didn't smile til our group got to Virgil's

Another drop. Sheff's iron glove. Jeez.

Ugh.

="Edgy DC":1192hbom]Used to happen to me all the time whenever I'd line into a triple play.[/quote:1192hbom] He came up grimacing yesterday on the sliding catch that was initially ruled a trap and then overturned. It looked like he landed right on that thumb at the time. metsguyinmichigan Aug 24 2009 11:15 AM This might be the absolute worst lineup they've thrown out there all year, and that's saying something. If Parnell gives up less than three runs, he shouldn't even be tagged with a loss -- just say it was "offensive indifference." Centerfield Aug 24 2009 11:19 AM Luis Castillo, Ironman Fman99 Aug 24 2009 11:22 AM Ugh. metsguyinmichigan Aug 24 2009 11:22 AM Screw that, he's already given up three runs! Hit batsman, error and Howard blast. bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 11:26 AM Re: IGT--Phillies @ Mets, 08/24/09 ="HahnSolo":31pddce8]="bmfc1":31pddce8] Francoeur woke up with swelling in his thumb. He's at the Hospital for Special Surgery this morning. [/quote:31pddce8] See you in St. Lucie, Jeff![/quote:31pddce8] I'm ready! Valadius Aug 24 2009 11:28 AM Amidst all the suckage, Castillo has quietly upped his batting average from .300 to .321 in the last ten days. Valadius Aug 24 2009 11:29 AM Wait, what the hell just happened with Pagan? bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 11:30 AM So over two consecutive games, the top of the first had 3 3-run homeruns, and in the bottom of the first, the lead-off batter went all around the bases each time. Happens all the time. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 11:30 AM ="Valadius":2gw8xmvb]Wait, what the hell just happened with Pagan?[/quote:2gw8xmvb] What he said. Anyone watching/listening to this? bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 11:33 AM Two errors by Utley. Howie and Wayne are praising Pagan for doing something that everybody should do--hustle. Utley dropped a pop-up and then threw the ball away. Pagan safe at first on 2nd baseman Utley's fielding error, Pagan scored on Utley's throwing error LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 11:36 AM So he just kept on running? Why, that's Teixeirian-level hustle! 3-2, after the Sheff triple and Tatis sac fly. The Russian is cut? Nymr83 Aug 24 2009 11:37 AM Sheffield drops a flyball, wtf? Vince Coleman Firecracker Aug 24 2009 11:37 AM Wow. Shef just dropped it. Yeesh. Fman99 Aug 24 2009 11:38 AM Another drop. Sheff's iron glove. Jeez. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 11:40 AM Well, he allowed a 'double'... but hit a triple! Net positive! bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 11:40 AM Major league baseball at its best. Howie is quoting Taggart from Blazing Saddles: "what in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?" And then they played an audio clip--it sounded like a morning zoo. seawolf17 Aug 24 2009 12:01 PM What, exactly, happened with Pagan? Forgot this was a day game and tuned into GameCast late. Ashie62 Aug 24 2009 12:05 PM OK, weirder..Verizon's homepage has Wagner demanding Mets decline 2010 option before approving trade to Red Sox He wants to sign with the Fucksox at a lower rate next season I assume Omar..do not accomodate him unless Boston coughs up Lars Anderson seawolf17 Aug 24 2009 12:08 PM ="Ashie62":1lnbxl99]OK, weirder..Verizon's homepage has Wagner demanding Mets decline 2010 option before approving trade to Red Sox He wants to sign with the Fucksox at a lower rate next season I assume Omar..do not accomodate him unless Boston coughs up Lars Anderson[/quote:1lnbxl99] Well, of course he wants to sign a contract for less money. Wouldn't you? And of course the Red Sox are going to give up their top prospect for a situational lefty who's pitched one major league inning in the last twelve months and may or may not still be hurt. Come back to this planet, Ash. Oh, and eff Ryan Howard. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 12:10 PM Eff Ryan Howard two times. Edgy DC Aug 24 2009 12:16 PM Pagan picked off. Good move, I say! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 12:23 PM So, today, the kid's been pretty good at striking out a pitcher who had been until very recently an American Leaguer his entire major-league career. Bully! bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 12:27 PM ="Edgy DC":1sdmp1ph]Pagan picked off. Good move, I say![/quote:1sdmp1ph] He was trying to stay out of the double play. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 24 2009 12:34 PM ="bmfc1":1si24kmo]So over two consecutive games, the top of the first had 3 3-run homeruns, and in the bottom of the first, the lead-off batter went all around the bases each time. Happens all the time.[/quote:1si24kmo] Jayson Stark just tweeted that this last happened in 1915 -- Phillies v. NY Giants. MFS62 Aug 24 2009 12:41 PM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2jedxid0] Jayson Stark just tweeted that this last happened in 1915 -- Phillies v. NY Giants.[/quote:2jedxid0] I'm guessing that we'll never see any mention of that moment in the CitiField rotunda. Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 12:42 PM Going to, like, nine pitches in each of the Cliff Lee at-bats probably didn't help that pitch count too much. MFS62 Aug 24 2009 01:04 PM Ken, you da' man! Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 01:05 PM Striking out Ryno... like tossing salad! Nice one, Ken-do. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 01:35 PM BREAKING NEWS: General Mets offensive production is still dead. On to pitch the eighth: 37 year-old asset of indeterminate value. smg58 Aug 24 2009 01:44 PM There was a report this morning that the Sox were expressing concern about Wagner's arm, as he hadn't yet pitched in this series. I'm guessing it will take more than one walk and no hits in a scoreless inning with two strikeouts to force the Mets to pull him off waivers.

This didn't come up in yesterday's IGT, but I happened to be listening to Howie and Wayne on XM during the early part of last night's game, and Howie was relating some stories from having hung out with the '69 Mets on the field. Howie revealed that it was revealed to him, and that it was OK to re-tell, that the infamous Cleon Jones HBP in game 5 (the "shoe polish" incident), that Jerry Koosman had put some of his own shoe polish on the ball as instructed to by Gil Hodges, and that this ball was the one that Hodges showed to the umpires to get him on base. I never heard such a thing before!

I couldn't even post anything when it happened. Just shut the laptop off and walked away.

="Fman99":3hidg8bq]Another ridiculously bad call by the umpires.[/quote:3hidg8bq] OE: Rescinded. Umps reversed the call. bmfc1 Aug 23 2009 02:06 PM So Francoeur could have gotten tossed by arguing and then the umpires end up correcting the call. Kong76 Aug 23 2009 02:06 PM I smell an embarrassing ninth inning come back and loss for the Phils! Nymr83 Aug 23 2009 02:06 PM Ryan Buckner at 1st for the Phils Nymr83 Aug 23 2009 02:07 PM and now an error at 2nd and Castillo beats it out!! Nymr83 Aug 23 2009 02:09 PM no defense!! tying runs on base, he'll get a hit but that was another defensive misplay Nymr83 Aug 23 2009 02:12 PM an unassisted triple play to end the game. it could only happen to us. Gwreck Aug 23 2009 02:13 PM Unbelievable. TheOldMole Aug 23 2009 02:13 PM All you can say is well, uh, OK. Kong76 Aug 23 2009 02:13 PM Ya think you've seen everything, that may the first one to end a game. Ashie62 Aug 23 2009 02:14 PM UNBELIEVABLE... Methead Aug 23 2009 02:14 PM Amazing. Well, I've always wondered if I'd ever see an unassisted triple play... I guess I can cross it off the list now. bmfc1 Aug 23 2009 02:17 PM What was the point of putting the runners in motion? If Jerry doesn't, that's a single and the bases are loaded w/none out. If they're down by one, OK but two? No, especially when the trail runner, the important runner because he's the tying run, is slow. Classic over-managing by Jerry. Ashie62 Aug 23 2009 02:23 PM ="bmfc1":1s01huou]What was the point of putting the runners in motion? If Jerry doesn't, that's a single and the bases are loaded w/none out. If they're down by one, OK but two? No, especially when the trail runner, the important runner because he's the tying run, is slow. Classic over-managing by Jerry.[/quote:1s01huou] You betcha!! where's Earl Weaver? Kong76 Aug 23 2009 02:41 PM A62: where's Earl Weaver <<< Poor choice, the guy who lived by the the three run homer. Fman99 Aug 23 2009 02:42 PM I couldn't even post anything when it happened. Just shut the laptop off and walked away. Methead Aug 23 2009 02:44 PM ="Kong76":243j8yoi]that may the first one to end a game.[/quote:243j8yoi] Pretty sure you're right. bmfc1 Aug 23 2009 02:48 PM Second time in history. Jayson Stark is so happy, he tweeted over and over. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1927/B05310DET1927.htm bmfc1 Aug 23 2009 02:50 PM I can't believe that Jerry wasn't asked about sending the runners. Maybe he was and FAN didn't play it. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 23 2009 03:07 PM ="bmfc1"]What was the point of putting the runners in motion? If Jerry doesn't, that's a single and the bases are loaded w/none out. If they're down by one, OK but two? No, especially when the trail runner, the important runner because he's the tying run, is slow. Classic over-managing by Jerry. You're fucking kidding me. I can't fucking believe that he would try and fucking do that. Next, you'll fucking tell me that Angel Hernandez tried to insert himself into a fucking ballgame. Imfuckingpossible. Fuck. (Watching Manuel is KILLING my vocabulary.) LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 23 2009 03:08 PM ="Methead":1pephxo0]="Kong76":1pephxo0]that may the first one to end a game.[/quote:1pephxo0] Pretty sure you're right.[/quote:1pephxo0] STATS says it's the second. May 31, 1927 was the other time (Johnny Neun, liner-step-tag for Detroit, preserving a 1-0 win over Cleveland). G-Fafif Aug 23 2009 04:57 PM I thought it was pretty incredible that I went to a game and saw two three-run homers in the top of the first, a starter pulled with a 3-0 count to the opposing pitcher after 45 pitches, a leadoff inside-the-park homer in the bottom of the first, a triple follow that, a poor-hitting pitcher drive in a run, the inside-the-park homer-hitter hit a homer outside the park and the return of an icon to face his old club. Also, Pat Misch in the middle innings giving up nothing was pretty special. Apparently, prior to the ninth, I hadn't seen nothing yet. In related news, I learned from those sitting around me that the Beach Boys of Mike Love were a lock to sing the National Anthem (they didn't); that Carlos Delgado has an option for next year (he doesn't); that Billy Wagner couldn't be used because once you're claimed on waivers you're ineligible (no such rule exists); and that Wagner, warming up in the bullpen wears No. 34 (Wagner wears 13; Mike Pelfrey wears 34; the pitcher warming up was No. 64, Elmer Dessens). Nymr83 Aug 23 2009 05:02 PM ]and that Wagner, warming up in the bullpen wears No. 34 (Wagner wears 13; Mike Pelfrey wears 34; the pitcher warming up was No. 64, Elmer Dessens). CBS gamecast actually had Wagner warming up at some point in the 8th, whether that was a mistake or not i dont know G-Fafif Aug 23 2009 05:03 PM ="Nymr83"]]and that Wagner, warming up in the bullpen wears No. 34 (Wagner wears 13; Mike Pelfrey wears 34; the pitcher warming up was No. 64, Elmer Dessens). CBS gamecast actually had Wagner warming up at some point in the 8th, whether that was a mistake or not i dont know Wagner did warm up, but it was after the dissertation from the scholars in the row behind me. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 23 2009 05:07 PM ="G-Fafif":3usy497h]I thought it was pretty incredible that I went to a game and saw two three-run homers in the top of the first, a starter pulled with a 3-0 count to the opposing pitcher after 45 pitches, a leadoff inside-the-park homer in the bottom of the first, a triple follow that, a poor-hitting pitcher drive in a run, the inside-the-park homer-hitter hit a homer outside the park and the return of an icon to face his old club. Also, Pat Misch in the middle innings giving up nothing was pretty special. Apparently, prior to the ninth, I hadn't seen nothing yet. In related news, I learned from those sitting around me that the Beach Boys of Mike Love were a lock to sing the National Anthem (they didn't); that Carlos Delgado has an option for next year (he doesn't); that Billy Wagner couldn't be used because once you're claimed on waivers you're ineligible (no such rule exists); and that Wagner, warming up in the bullpen wears No. 34 (Wagner wears 13; Mike Pelfrey wears 34; the pitcher warming up was No. 64, Elmer Dessens).[/quote:3usy497h] What's your threshold for factual corrections? Is said threshold more dependent on the egregiousness of the error, or is it based more on the scholar's/s' volume? Nymr83 Aug 23 2009 05:09 PM you get alot of that, at weekend day games especially. i've found the people sitting around me to be much smarter on freezing cold or rainy weeknights in April. i guess theres something about the early start and the heat that attracts the morons who would never show up to watch a game in the cold after work on a thursday G-Fafif Aug 23 2009 05:16 PM ="Nymr83":1ir3j8vb]you get alot of that, at weekend day games especially. i've found the people sitting around me to be much smarter on freezing cold or rainy weeknights in April. i guess theres something about the early start and the heat that attracts the morons who would never show up to watch a game in the cold after work on a thursday[/quote:1ir3j8vb] Of course when the morons who would never show up to watch a game in the cold after work on a Thursday are warm in their homes, they may divine a sense of intellectual superiority over those of us shivering at the ballpark despite our working knowledge of rosters and rules. bmfc1 Aug 23 2009 05:16 PM Here's something else for this bizarre baseball day: a Mets minor leaguer threw a no-hitter! http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_08_23_broasx_abeasx_1 G-Fafif Aug 23 2009 05:36 PM From Brandon Moore, no-hit whiz of Coney Island: ]"I love playing in Brooklyn. They say it's the closest you can get to playing in the big leagues without playing in the big leagues." And I thought that's what they said about the Mets.

Another ridiculously bad call by the umpires.

Took a two hour nap today and missed the first several innings and I challenge anyone to tell me watching this game would've been a better way to spend my afternoon. Wild pitch, 9-5 Phillies.

So far these guys look pretty healthy, not too obese or beat up.

Yogi in a Mets jersey, the Steinbrenners are all somewhere pooing themselves.

DId anyone ever give Joe Pignatano the nickname "Joe Pig"?

Donn Clendenon's wife still looks good. RIP Donn, Tug, etc No show on big shot country music douche Tim, other less famous sons do make the trip.

Woo boy, Joy Murphy. I'm going to refrain from saying mean things about Mets of yore and their kin.

Whoops, just found the ceremony thread.

Howie's the right guy to be out there emceeing. He gets it.

Home long enough for the ceremonies and maybe the first inning before I head out for my buddy's bachelor party. Looking forward to seeing all the old Mets out there again.

CSB shines down on Phillies losses.

Hey, Frankie, I hear you have a great big cock. Can I see it?