RealityChuck

Interesting.

While I like both, I voted for Humber because I think he's underrated. His WHIP last year in the minors was better than Pelfrey's (1.24 vs. 1.35) and his ERA is just a bit higher. ERA numbers are misleading in the PCL: the league ERA is 4.68, so Humber's 4.27 isn't all that bad. He was second in WHIP for pitchers with more than 100 innings and third in hits per nine innings (again for over 100 ip -- before anyone brings it up, there were 59 pitchers in the league who hit 100 ip). As for his major league numbers this year, he basically rotted on the bench in September, with only two brief relief stints before his disasterous start. But he had hardly pitched, so was quite likely rusty. My feelings are that, while the Tongue has greater potential, Humber is gong to be the surer bet.

...and the Mets might just win the World Series if Pedro Martinez makes a comeback and Mike Pelfrey feels comfortable enough at the back of the rotation to win 12-15 games. ...and the {insert team name here} might just sneak by the {insert another team name here} as the division's second-best team if {injured pitcher} makes a comeback and {an underchieving pitcher} feels comfortable enough at the back of the rotation to win 12-15 games. If wishes were horses . . .

Also, when was the last time there was a three-team trade for any big name players? I can remember the Benitez trade, but that was really two trades -- Mets/Dodgers and quick turnaround for Charles Johnson to the Orioles for Benetez. AFAIK, the Orioles and Dodgers did not exchange players. A truly three-sided trade is next to impossible to set up, even for minor leaguers, and when you're dealing with Reyes, Haren, and Santana, I can't believe the website reporting it didn't think it was crazy to consider it. It ranks up with the classic "Yogi Berra for Tom Haller" trade hoax of 1961. That was deliberately concocted by a group of sportswriters (notably Stan Isaacs). No one believed that one at first until the kicker -- that Berra was being traded to manage the Giants. Isaacs added that to the hoax in order to make it even more absurd, since the idea of Berra managing seemed ridiculous to the sportswriters (Yogi was primiarly known as a clown). Isaacs later claimed that the reason Berra became Yankee manager was that the hoax made the Yankees look at him differently, as a potential manager.

]Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey to A's Mets send Hector Pellot to Twins A's send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets A's send Dan Haren to Twins Twins send Johan Santana to Mets Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson A's get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot Did anyone even think this was a real possibility?

They should have tried to get more for Milledge. This seems like far too little.

I definitely see it as an option. I could even see a team going with eight pitchers who expect to pitch four innings every four days, and four relievers. But the problem is mainly talent. Can you find enough pitchers who pitch at a ML level and who can handle this sort of load? You'd probably have to develop it in your farm system for a few years before moving to the parent club.

Edgy DC wrote: Now, 1976 he was at his best and his wins reflected that, but what changed from 1974 and 1975 to 1977 --- Jerry's team and his luck, or Jerry himself? We have so many clarifying tools to work with now. Why cling to one so clouded in ambiguity?Because the other tools are just as ambiguous. They don't answer the question you yourself just asked: what changed. The numbers indicate a change, but what actually changed?

Yup. I followed Chuck Estrada fairly closely that year, for his first name alone. He also was a pretty good pitcher when he came up: won 33 games his first two seasons, but hurt his arm and never came back. His win was the only decent game he pitched that year, and once his ERA flirted with 10, he was released.

Johnny Estrada is already the best Estrada to play for the Mets (as a Met). Though, of course, it's unlikely he'll be as interesting a trivia question as Chuck (a pitcher who won just one game for the team -- but a very historic one for the Franchise).

I'd be delighted if Wright won it, but since the Phillies made the playoffs and the Mets collapsed, then Rollins is more likely. MVP is not chosen on stats alone, and unless you're a clearcut choice, finishing second is a big disadvantage. Hopefully, I'll be wrong on this.

The page is polling visitors to list zip code and team. Not the most scientific, but probably better than observation.

I'll give Vermont a try. Batter is easy: Carlton Fisk is the only HOF player on the list, and leads Green Mountain State batters in almost every category. Birdie Tebbits and Larry Gardner are the only other who might be considered, but they are nowhere near Fisk. Pitcher is tougher -- no standouts, or well known names. Ray Collins is probably #1 -- he was a 20-game winner and won two games for the 1912 Red Sox world champs (or were they still called Pilgrims then). Henry Porter won 33 games in 1885, but lost 37 in 1888 and Lee Viau had a couple of good years. It doesn't look like any Vermonter played for the Mets.

The United Countries of Baseball shows fan territories for all 30 MLB teams. If you count the fact that much of the Mets area is disputed, we probably have the smallest territory.

Let's face it -- we're exchanging one mediocre catcher for another. Paul is a great guy and works hard, but his results last year were disappointing. If we were looking for a #2 hitter, then he'd be a better choice, but he wouldn't necessarily be a good one. Yes, it would have been nice to pick up a top-notch catcher, but there are none to be had. It's dumb to waste prospects on a catcher, especially since we need other positions more (and we don't have a lot of desirable prospects right now). So instead of an old mediocre catcher, we have a young mediocre catcher (who will almost certainly put up better numbers than LoDuca over the three years). But since the team is planning to bat the catcher in the 8 hole, offensive ability is not going to matter that much.

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Hey, this sounds like it could be a HIPAA violation. The $2 million could be the least of the hospital's troubles: ]Criminal Penalties. A person who knowingly obtains or discloses individually identifiable health information in violation of HIPAA faces a fine of $50,000 and up to one-year imprisonment. The criminal penalties increase to $100,000 and up to five years imprisonment if the wrongful conduct involves false pretenses, and to $250,000 and up to ten years imprisonment if the wrongful conduct involves the intent to sell, transfer, or use individually identifiable health information for commercial advantage, personal gain, or malicious harm. Criminal sanctions will be enforced by the Department of Justice. He'd have a hard time winning a suit against the forum, but if he wanted to threaten, then the name would have to change.

Robert L. Miller

RealityChuck wrote: IIRC, they also set a MLB record that year for total number of pitchers (though that may have been surpassed).

IIRC, they also set a record that year for total number of pitchers (though that may have been surpassed).

Great work. I love this one: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/metannual.php?ThisYear=1967&tabno=C So many colors!

]METS ANNOUNCE MINOR LEAGUE AWARDS ... Kingsport � of the Appalachian League: 3B JOSE JIMENEZ Isn't his real name Bill Dana?

Elster88 wrote: ="RealityChuck"]I don't dislike Green, but I can't see any reason to keep him. He's bound to want more than Millege or Gomez or Endy. Keep Alou if you want a veteran who can hit (though he would certainly prefer to be a regular). Wow you really missed everything that was being said, huh?Why the gratuitous snarkiness? I was merely disagreeing with you -- I don't think it's worth keeping Green. No post previous to mine proved conclusively otherwise (even if such a thing were possible for an opinion).

I'd like to see him again; he's a class act and still can pitch.

I don't dislike Green, but I can't see any reason to keep him. He's bound to want more than Millege or Gomez or Endy. Keep Alou if you want a veteran who can hit (though he would certainly prefer to be a regular).