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=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=122971 time=1682010157 user_id=119] =vtmet7 post_id=122965 time=1682006883 user_id=80] I thought that Oakland colliseum still looks cool...makes me feel like it's 1973 all over again...I think that the A's should be forced to stay there forever...nothing that Orkin and RotoRouter can't fix...

he's got a pulse, and he's cheap (since the D'Backs are stuck with his salary)...what harm could it do to give him a look while we are down a few arms in the rotation? If nothing else, he could pinch hit for Luis G or Escobar...

After raking in the winter leagues, and hitting impressively in Spring Training...Mauricio has kept it full throttle on hitting so far in AAA Syracuse: 13 runs; 22 hits; 1 triple; 7 doubles; 6 home runs; 14 RBI; 2 steals; 4 walks; .355 Average; 1.193 OPS; 49 Total Bases in 16 games played. It's been nice that this season, mlb.tv has included the Mets minor league games "live"...so I have been able to watch the Syracuse Mets play quite a bit...unlike the MLB games, you can't pause or watch them on delay

One couldn't handle the rigors of catching, so he changed positions...one couldn't handle the rigors of catching, so they changed the rules to cater to him I'm not sure this is fair to Posey. The rule wasn't changed because he "couldn't handle the rigors of catching." The rules were changed because it makes no sense for a player running full speed to be crashing into a defender in hopes of getting them to drop the ball -- but only at one of the four bases. Can you imagine if this was allowed at first base - even if the first baseman was armored up? Now, would MLB have changed the rule if the backup catcher had been injured and not the All-Star? Maybe not - but maybe. it's been happening in baseball since...forever...it's still the Pussy Poser rule...did they make immediate rule changes when another golden boy, Chase Utley, broke Rueben Tejada's leg at 2nd?

I thought that Oakland colliseum still looks cool...makes me feel like it's 1973 all over again...I think that the A's should be forced to stay there forever...nothing that Orkin and RotoRouter can't fix...

One couldn't handle the rigors of catching, so he changed positions...one couldn't handle the rigors of catching, so they changed the rules to cater to him

I used to hate when I would see NYN and NYA for the Mets and Yanks

=kcmets post_id=118674 time=1677030289 user_id=53] The post changed four times. Whatever.

It's always about the money. Just follow the money. It's probably incredibly inefficient to the owners for games to go into prolonged extra innings. Overtime and extra pay for the stadium workers. They hafta deal with local liquor laws that might prevent the sale of booze by a certain time. Fans are buying way less goods anyways because they're running out of money by then or have exceeded their spending budgets for the game. And even if they can still spend more, how many fucking hot dogs can a fan eat? Just because the game's continuing, doesn't mean a fan's hunger isn't sated by then. Or they're not even there because they've left the stadium and gone home because they hafta wake up early the next day for work and/or school. Owners have probably been griping internally to themselves about extra inning games forever. It's all about the money. Owners could give a flying fuck about the purity of the game. makes you wonder about that game that the Mets played in Atlanta in the 80's, rain delays, extra innings, fireworks started just before dawn...how much extra did that cost the stadium folks, I would imagine that the pyrotechnics guys weren't expected to be doing their jobs just before the Fulton County Stadium area was just about to wake up for work... https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-07-04-sp-544-story.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-07-04-sp-544-story.html The Night Without End : An Unusual Baseball Game Was Played One Year Ago; It Seems Like Yesterday Today marks not only the observance of a national holiday but also the first anniversary of a very special baseball game. Special not because of the day it was played, but because of the distinct possibility that there may never be another one quite like it. You can call it: The night the lights didn't go out in Georgia. The game between the Atlanta Braves and the New York Mets at Atlanta, as you might remember, was a lengthy one. Now, length doesn't make a game special, but this one, as dramatic as it was long, dragged on for 6 hours 10 minutes. Add 2 hours 10 minutes of rain delays, and it totals up to quite an event. After finally getting under way at 9:04 p.m. EDT, the game ended at 3:55 a.m, the Mets wearily winning, 16-13, in 19 innings. Although few stuck around to see the end, it turned out to be quite a game. And after the game, there were the traditional fireworks. After all, it was the Fourth of July. Actually, 4:01 a.m. makes it July 5, but the promised show had to go on. “As long as there were people at the game, we were obligated to fire ‘em (the fireworks) off, I thought,” said Wayne Minshew, director of public relations and promotions for the Braves. There were an estimated 8,000 fans left from a crowd of 44,947 when the fireworks started shortly before dawn. Ernie Johnson, Braves radio-TV announcer, wasn't pleased, especially after he found out he was to emcee the fireworks. “They told me they wanted me to do a play-by-play on the fireworks show after the game,” he said. “I mean the game itself was so long. I said to myself, ‘What do they want me to do here, go ohh and ahh as they light each one off?' ” Johnson was also concerned with the neighbors around the stadium. Minshew didn't give it a second thought, and later found out the fireworks raised the ire of some of the stadium neighbors. “We got about 30 calls (complaints) here, and the police precinct told me they got several,” Minshew said. Jack Lang, a longtime baseball writer who works for the New York Daily News, figured the complaints weren't directly concerning the fireworks. “The neighbors thought they were being bombed,” he said. “They didn't call to stop the fireworks, they called because they were alarmed and didn't know what was going on.” The game, the latest finish ever in the majors, and probably anywhere else, left workers reeling in a state somewhere between frustration and delirium. Naturally, the players were tired. But since neither team was able to hold a lead, it was difficult to stir up a lot of sympathy for either. Consider, for example, the agony on the part of those who, for one reason or another, had to watch the entire game. “It was one of the more miserable experiences of my life,” said Gerry Fraley, who covers the Braves for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution. “It was a night in hell is what it was. It was like slow torture. It's bad enough to cover a team that loses 96 games, but to have to watch them lose for six hours in one sitting is ridiculous.” Atlanta finished 66-96 last year. “I didn't leave the stadium til' 6:30 in the morning, and my neighbors must have thought I was some sort of derelict or something for coming home at 7 in the morning,” Fraley said. “Oh God, it was a bad night.” Lang, looking back, was one reporter who was glad to be there. “Anytime you get involved in something historical, you can't feel too bad,” he said. “Yeah, I was glad to be there. It was something different.” Actually, the game shouldn't have gone as long as it did. It probably should have been over long before dawn instead of just before sunrise. But it simply wouldn't end. Going into the bottom of the eighth, the Mets had a 7-4 lead. Reliever Jesse Orosco walked three batters and proceeded to give up four runs. The Mets' Len Dykstra, however, drove in a run with an infield single off Bruce Sutter to send the game into extra innings. Sutter wasn't the only one to lose a lead. Both teams kept coming back. With two outs in the 13th, Howard Johnson hit a two-run home run off now-Angel Terry Forster to give the Mets a 10-8 lead. It looked as though they would win the game. But Terry Harper wasn't to be outdone by Johnson. He also hit a two-out, two-run shot off Tom Gorman in the bottom of the 13th, which tied the game again at 10-10. In the 18th inning, Dykstra drove in Johnson with a sacrifice fly off Rick Camp, the seventh and final Atlanta pitcher, making it 11-10 Mets. But Camp, with a .060 batting average, produced the strangest twist of the night. Batting because there was no one left to do so, he hit his first and only major league home run to tie the score again at 11-11. “That was the most bizarre thing about the whole night,” Fraley said. Finally in the 19th inning, the Mets, who out-hit the Braves 28-18, were finally able to put the game out of reach, scoring five runs off Camp. However, the Braves scored twice in the bottom of the 19th and Camp had another chance to tie the game with runners on first and third. But this time he struck out and took the loss. Gorman, who had given up two two-out home runs, got the win. “They had a lead in the ninth inning, and Sutter lost it,” Fraley said. “They always seemed to find a way to lose. It was just a horrible evening.” Gorman said he could have ended the game much earlier. He had the chance. “We should have won the game twice,” Gorman told the New York Times. “I could have easily picked up the save. I could have lost the game. Instead I won it. It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen.” But, as Fraley said: “It just showed how bad the Braves were, it took ‘em 19 innings to lose. In a sense it kind of typified their whole season. It was all kind of ridiculous. I just try to blot it out of my memory as much as possible.” At the end of the evening, there had been 155 official at-bats, 23 strikeouts and 22 walks. The Mets' Keith Hernandez said he “saw things I've never seen before.” Ron Darling, who pitched the last inning (he was used as a reliever for the first time since a freshman at Yale), said, “It was a game everyone on this team will remember.” The Mets set a club-record 28 hits; Hernandez had hit for the cycle (single, double, triple home run) by the 12th inning; Gary Carter caught the entire game, while going 5-for-9 at the plate and driving in two runs; Ray Knight, though providing a key run-scoring double in the 19th inning, left 11 runners on base, three times making an out with the bases loaded. The Braves' Terry Harper went 5-for-10 with 4 RBIs, and Camp hit the not-so-memorable home run, at least as far as he was concerned. “I couldn't care less about the home run,” Camp told the New York Times. “If they have to rely on me to hit home runs, we're in a lot of trouble.” He was right. Forty-three of a possible 50 players participated in the marathon, each team used seven pitchers (the starter for the Mets was Dwight Gooden, who pitched 2 innings, walking four batters and allowing two runs to score), and the teams combined to leave 37 men on base. It was was surely a memorable evening, night and morning. By the way, the Braves play host to the Montreal Expos tonight. This time, the forecast is for clear skies.

I understand their desire to shorten games but...how about a compromise, have 1 real rules extra inning first before doing baby rules starting with the 11th?

By the way, my name is not Bob... however it looks like Bob wrote an article today saying that Keith belongs in the HOF. https://www.nj.com/yankees/2023/01/the-six-yankees-and-mets-who-should-be-in-cooperstown-klapisch.htmlhttps://www.nj.com/yankees/2023/01/the-six-yankees-and-mets-who-should-be-in-cooperstown-klapisch.html

except, Brooks Robinson got in for his defense moreso than his offense...plus, the Orioles were in the playoffs 6 years, when only 4 teams made the playoffs & he was a pretty big influence on the team's results... Rolen wasn't in Brooks' class defensively, and his offense wouldn't have gotten him in as a Left Fielder or a first baseman in a better class of candidates.. While Rolen has better power numbers than Keith, Keith was a better hitter overall and an exceptional defensive player... When you think of the best defensive infielders of your lifetime, I think: 1B: Keith; SS: Ozzie; 3B: Brooks; C: Pudge/Yadier; P: Gregg Maddux; 2B: ?

=nymr83 post_id=117247 time=1674612049 user_id=54] I'm sad that RA Dickey dropped off the ballot

=MFS62 post_id=116382 time=1673294399 user_id=60] =vtmet7 post_id=116303 time=1673133281 user_id=80] De Los Santos looks intriguing, however it's concerning that he's 23 but has never played above A ball St Lucie.

De Los Santos looks intriguing, however it's concerning that he's 23 but has never played above A ball St Lucie.

Coaching as in not teaching them how to read pitchers and catchers. By comparison, Cleveland got 104 steals with only 21 caught stealing from their starting infield, left fielder and center fielder last season. Some of them are guys that don't appear overly fast.

IMO, the Mets have had several prospects in recent years (aka the "Sandy" years) that might have been considered fast runners, but looking at their numbers, it didn't translate into success in the running game... Examples: Ronny Maurico: 39 steals; 34 caught stealing (minors); however in the Dominican winter leagues: 11 steals; 2 caught stealing; Amed Rosario: Mets minors: 60 steals; 27 caught stealing; Mets majors: 50 steals; 25 caught stealing; seriously, I just used a racist word when I really meant "Guardians"/Guardians: 31 steals; 4 caught stealing; Nimmo: Minors: 41 steals; 31 caught stealing; Majors: 23 steals; 14 caught stealing; Andres Gimenez: Minors: 101 steals; 50 caught stealing; Mets: 8 steals; 1 caught stealing; seriously, I just used a racist word when I really meant "Guardians"/Guardians: 31 steals; 3 caught stealing;

Not sure where to put this...but since it's a player development issue, I figured that "Adopt a prospect" is the best fit...

=nymr83 post_id=116263 time=1673039694 user_id=54] Stephen Drew I think took a 1 year deal not until the season started after Boras overplayed his hand trying to get him the big contract. and he never got paid big after that. there may have been others.

this whole saga is getting a little tedious...every day on my facebook feed or on sportspyder there is another updated Correa story that basically says nothing new or cooks up drama...at this point it's time to either shit or get off the pot so that we can focus on getting the roster more focused than 1 freaking player...I would like Correa, but it's not like we don't have several other 3B options

Eye don't get it: hot dog, pretzel, NY?

Lefty Specialist wrote: Jeez, I'd like to know exactly what the problem is so I can decide how to spend Uncle Steve's money. Of course, if this leads to a restructuring for a shorter term I'm OK with that. I'm not sure what my plans will be in 2034 anyway. Maybe the x-rays show that they duck taped his fibula to his tibia and forgot to remove the duck tape

For a catcher that couldn't hit; he could sure hit when he didn't catch: (Small sample size) but in his 2 seasons as a Met, he had 42 At Bats combined at 1B/DH/PH... In those 42 at bats, he had 15 hits with 3 doubles, 4 HRs, 12 RBI...for a .357 batting average

Supposedly Mets are picking up $19 Mil of McCanned's tab, with the O's only $5 Mi.

Edgy MD wrote: I was explaining this deal to my wife, how the Mets just dropped a ton of money on a shortstop when they don't need a shortstop. 　　Wifey: Maybe the idea is to teach him first base. 　　Edgy: First base? 　　Wifey: It's not that hard. Tell him, Wash. [switches to Ron Washington voice.] It's incredibly difficult. I'm not 100% convinced that either he or Lindor may eventually move to 2B...3B is a tough position, whereas 2B is a more natural transition for a shortstop...