Gwreck wrote: Now I'm confused. So your question wasn't really a question, but more of a comment? No, it was a question. I still stand by my answer as a reasoned explanation, and object to any insinuations that it might be otherwise. I object to your objection. And if you object to my objection of your objection, I object infinity. What? I asked if people noticed this cloud, not why it exists. I went on to describe what I meant --- the cloud I speak of not being, as I tried to note, how Wilpon sucks and has ruined everything, or even why folks object to that, but how folks are hijacking conversations and injecting the sell-now agenda into everything, and are almost bitchily offended that anybody should talk about anything else. Which I'm trying to do now. Ironically, relevant stuff, like the potential losses in the clawback suit being limited to the Mets withdrawals from their accounts beyond their principle, protecting $600+ million of their principle, and yesterday's ruling on the appeal, gets ignored.