Edgy MD

Noon start time. Good day to throw a rookie into a new and challenging role. Too early to spend all day thinking about it.

"Gay dame." That's the other one.

Gift basket.

In the late seventies, we start to see pieces of the great 1980s teams appear. 1976: Mike Scott (2), Neil Allen (11), Dave Von Ohlen (17), Jody Davis (Jan-3), Kim Seaman (Jan-4) Scott and Allen, as we know, contributed to the 1986 championship in the form of Danny Heep and Keith Hernandez. Neil Allen was scouted by 1969 champ Ed Charles. Von Ohlen was a Flushing High product who became a free agent after a couple of years at Tidewater without getting a call. He signed with the Cards and fashioned a 4+-year career for himself. May have even earned a pension if he logged enough DL time. Davis was traded while in AA for Ray Searage who was traded for Tom Veryzer who was traded for two going-nowhere minor leaguers. Diminishing returns. Any value the Mets got out of Kim Seaman was by trading him and Tom Grieve for Pete Falcone. But one the face of it, that's a decent haul for a draft, I guess. But talk about diminishing returns. Check out Greg Harris. Greg F. Harris. June 5, 1974: Drafted by the California Angels in the 10th round of the 1974 amateur draft, but did not sign. January 9, 1975: Drafted by the New York Mets in the 4th round of the 1975 amateur draft (January Secondary), but did not sign. January 7, 1976: Drafted by the New York Mets in the 7th round of the 1976 amateur draft (January), but did not sign. September 17, 1976: Signed by the New York Mets as an amateur free agent. February 10, 1982: Traded by the New York Mets with Jim Kern and Alex Trevino to the Cincinnati Reds for George Foster. Gets drafted and says "no" three times, before finally signing as an undrafted free agent with the team he's spurned twice, who then up and trade him. For the purposes of this survey, though, he's worth nothing to the Mets, as he counts as a failed signing. 1977: Wally Backman (1), Mookie Wilson (2), Brent Gaff (6) Big fun and excitement, right? The Mets third-round pick that year was named "Steve McQueen," too. 1978: Hubie Brooks (1), Brian Giles (3), Mike Fitzgerald (6), Randy Johnson (11), Jamie Nelson (Jan-8) That's half the bounty for Gary Carter right there. More than half. Johnson wasn't the HoF-bound pitcher, but a backup infielder with Atlanta, traded there by the Mets for Terry Leach. 1979: Tim Leary (1), Jeff Bettendorf (2), Ron Gardenhire (6), Rusty Tillman (Jan-10) Leary ended up fashioning a pretty good career. The team also picked future suit David Howard in this draft. Know what the next year needs? A little Bowtie, that's what. 1980: Darryl Strawberry (1a), Billy Beane (1b), John Gibbons (1c), Jay Tibbs (2), Mike Davis (4), Ronn Reynolds (5), Jeff Bittiger (7), Lloyd McClendon (8). Rick Ownbey (13) Tibbs helped net Bruce Berenyi. McClendon went in the Tom Seaver deal. Lots of trades with the Reds around this time. Ownbey, of course, went to St. Louis with Neil Allen for Keith Hernandez. Quite a haul, couting future managers GMs. Let's rank them in there. 1965 Les Rohr (1) Joe Moock (3) Ken Boswell (4) Jim McAndrew (11) Nolan Ryan (12) Don Shaw (35) 1980: Darryl Strawberry (1a) Billy Beane (1b) John Gibbons (1c) Jay Tibbs (2) Mike Davis (4) Ronn Reynolds (5) Jeff Bittiger (7) Lloyd McClendon (8) Rick Ownbey (13) 1967 John Matlack (1) Dave Schneck (38) Rod Gaspar (Sec-2) Gary Gentry (Sec-3) Ken Singleton (Jan-1) 1977: Wally Backman (1) Mookie Wilson (2) Brent Gaff (6) 1968 Tim Foli (1) Hank Webb (10) Don Rose (11) John Milner (14) 1978: Hubie Brooks (1) Brian Giles (3) Mike Fitzgerald (6) Randy Johnson (11) Jamie Nelson (Jan-8) 1976: Mike Scott (2) Neil Allen (11) Dave Von Ohlen (17) Jody Davis (Jan-3) Kim Seaman (Jan-4) 1979: Tim Leary (1) Jeff Bettendorf (2) Ron Gardenhire (6) Rusty Tillman (Jan-10) 1966 Mike Jorgenson (4) Duffy Dyer (Sec-1) Danny Frisella (Sec-2) 1969 Randy Sterling (1) Joe Nolan (2) Lute Barnes (21) Buzz Capra (27) George Theodore (31) 1973 Lee Mazzilli (1) Jackson Todd (2) 1972 Craig Swan (3) 1974 Dwight Bernard (2) John Pacella (4) Bob Myrick (14) 1970 Bruce Boisclair (20) 1971 Rich Puig (1) Rick Baldwin (9) 1975 Nobody

It only takes one owner to say, "Yeah, well, sue me."

I'm not sure what we're talking about. Is this "No Surrender" by Springsteen?

And it's just a terribly wrong thing for the league to do and it needs to be combatted.

Two-year anniversary of the 20-inning game with the Cardinals, when Tony LaRussa more or less forfeited, and Jerry Manuel barely accepted.

And add Associate Justice Kagan to the ranks of Met fans who hate the Mets. Mets Have No Hitting, Fan Kagan Writes for Supreme Court By Greg Stohr - Apr 17, 2012 2:49 PM ET U.S. Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan, described as a �die-hard� New York Mets baseball fan by President Barack Obama when he nominated her in 2010, doesn�t sound impressed with her favorite team�s performance at the plate. In an opinion today interpreting a federal drug-approval law, Kagan slipped in a mention of the Mets while discussing how the word �a� can sometimes mean �any.� �If your child admits that she �did not read a book all summer,� you will surmise that she did not read any book (but went to the movies a lot),� Kagan wrote. �And if a sports-fan friend bemoans that �the New York Mets do not have a chance of winning the World Series,� you will gather that the team has no chance whatsoever (because they have no hitting).� The ruling was unanimous. The Mets, 7-3 after yesterday�s game, are hitting .248, seventh in the 16-team National League, and are tied for 12th with 3.6 runs per game. To contact the reporter on this story: Greg Stohr in Washington at gstohr@bloomberg.net. To contact the editor responsible for this story: Steven Komarow at skomarow1@bloomberg.net.

Bax has options, right?

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Which is why the first and second rule of drafting is to not even consider perceived weaknesses at the big league level when making your selections. You gotta at least have some thoughts though right? You can't end up drafting only pitchers or only power-hitting right-handed outfielders because they looked the best. It seems to me that the Mets could use some rangy guys in the system to put at the more premium defensive positions. Oh, absolutely none. You may want to give some thought to getting some positional balance within the draft. Make sure you pick up a few hitters if you only grabbed pitchers in the first 10 rounds. Maybe be sure to get at least two catchers along the way. That's a maybe. But no way do you consider what you have on the big league roster now. The picture will change in countless ways five years down the road, and any redundancies would simply be a blessing, one that can easily be cashed in on by moving a guy over one position or trading.

Torres bats both ways, so I don't see how Baxter's leftiness gives him an edge.

Which is why the first and second rule of drafting is to not even consider perceived weaknesses at the big league level when making your selections.

Would you see more utility in Torres coming off the bench than in Baxter?

Will also be an instant fan favorite because of his hustle and all out style. = White guy, fun Polish name.

Fucking up is a bad idea under any circumstances. And 'sides, it'll be two-three years at least before we have a fair notion of whether they've fucked it up, unless somebody pulls a Matz and gets hurt on his way to the bathroom after signing a deal. Anyhow, the Mets are winning. They had a crap draft in 1969, and even worse in 1986. Winning that same season shouldn't mitigate that too much. Hey! Here are the Mets best draft classes from their first five drafts, giving them credit for the full careers of guys they signed and developed, but credit for nothing for the McGuires and Clemenses who they may have drafted but ultimately didn't sign. (I've included secondary phases and January phases as well.) 1965: Les Rohr (1) Joe Moock (3) Ken Boswell (4) Jim McAndrew (11) Nolan Ryan (12) Don Shaw (35) 1967: John Matlack (1) Dave Schneck (38) Rod Gaspar (Sec-2) Gary Gentry (Sec-3) Ken Singleton (Jan-1) 1968: Tim Foli (1) Hank Webb (10) Don Rose (11) John Milner (14) 1966 Mike Jorgenson (4) Duffy Dyer (Sec-1) Danny Frisella (Sec-2) 1969 Randy Sterling (1) Joe Nolan (2) Lute Barnes (21) Buzz Capra (27) George Theodore (31) How did 1970-1974 look? http://www.thebaseballcube.com/

Every other year, fucking up the draft is cool.

Congrats to Gabrielle Union, J.R. Smith, and Talib Kweli (whoever the Hell they are) for wearing hats that don't look like they just came out of plastic bags. Also congratulations to Hugh Grant for finding a way to put off his adoring masses by walking as if somebody has a gun pointed at his back.

Pulling an effective starter after five makes me blue. BLUE!

And while that may be the illusion of a small sample size, the Marlins have 6-7 years to find out.

Ashie62 wrote: Nymr83 wrote: The "blooper real" would be extremely classless to do to an ex-met. Would be very funny for chipper though. I wouldn't boo Reyes at all, the fucking team didn't even make an offer so why is it his fault he isn't here? For Chipper, part of me thinks he deserves polite applause, but I think I'd rather give him some loud boos to remember us by, and some chants of LAAAARRRYYY Jose was a lazy slacking fuck that stuck it up the fans ass on the last day.. Ashie on Reyes would make a great compilation book.

Well, I wouldn't want the Mets to do it.

It would be pretty funny --- in theory, anyhow --- if a team welcomed back a player by playing a montage of his most embarrassing, disappointing, and disgraceful moments while wearing the uniform.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm not sure how he'll be received. I'd give him polite applause, but I bet there are a lot of fans who feel they owe him a boo for his first-inning exit in his last game as a Met. I'm sure for each of those, there'll be many more who feel they have to cheer him as a way of sticking it to the organization.

A week from now, the Marlins arrive in New York, displaying for the first time Jos� Reyes as a member of the opposition. The News reports that the Mets plan to present a video tribute to Reyes' Mets career, perhaps not unlike that they offered when Mike Piazza returned to Shea as a Padre. The problem of course will be that such a gesture will underscore the meekness with which they pursued re-signing their all-star shortstop, and get them ripped. "If you cared so much, why did you let him leave?" Yet not to do it would be classless, and they would be ripped. They're going to get ripped either way. And I guess I'm glad they're doing more-or-less the right thing. No Jos�-Jos�-Jos�s by the second at-bat, though. All bets are off then.