Yeah, for what its worth, I think those Grich and Whitaker are two of the strongest cases out there among guys the BBWAA ballot has long passed by. Whitaker getting the one-and-done treatment is one of those things that needs to be talked about. Why did we do that? What were we thinking? Was the ballot entirely composed of Super Friends that year or something? I don't know? Maybe I was just being racist. You're not a racist. I know I'm not A racist, but I have my days, if I'm being honest with myself. If you were "having a day," what does that say about the rest of us? You need to deal with your own ****. I'm having enough trouble answering for myself right now. He was one-and-done? Grich was one-and-done, too, and he's white. Yeah well, that was before my time. Dick Young probably didn't like his hair length or something. Dick Young was only one guy, though. I always thought that Whitaker and Trammell were two halves of one whole. Did Trammell get in? I don't think you really want the answer to that, do you? Holy ****, you're right. He went in back in 2019, and everybody was happy with that. That must've created a groundswell of support for Whitaker. It did not. ****, but at least Trammell must have had a higher WAR. He did not. ****! We just suck, don't we? We indeed do.