Frayed Knot

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I'm so hot for Beane right now I can barely stand it. It just makes too much sense It's not that Im against hiring Beane, so why do I have this nagging sense that doing so now would be like jumping on a trend far too late? A trend NYM fans know far too well from the Wilpon era. He's been at this a long time now -- first as GM, later as Prez/Head-o-BB-Ops or whatever they call it -- and I wonder if he's still as invested and if his ideas are still as fresh. I remember reading a couple years back about his growing interest in futbol and how metrics might apply to that sport and I think maybe he's itching for a different challenge. I'm probably wrong and certainly a change of teams, coasts, and $$ situations should certainly constitute enough of a challenge to reinvigorate him even if the situation exists where such a thing is needed. But I also wonder about the wisdom of hiring 'The Big Name' guy for purposes of 'Making a Splash' when perhaps they should be focused on the more forward looking route of searching for the Next Billy Beane instead of taking the safe route of going with the last one. The Knicks and their corporate owned roots have been falling into this trap for decades now and it never gets them anywhere except being stuck paying off a high-priced coach and/or GM when they realize halfway through his contract that the guy they just 'had to have' wasn't the answer any more than the last ten 'had to have' GMs and coaches were. And if they hire him I'll be happy.

Jayce Tingler's Padre sense is no longer tingling. He's been officially Rojased. "They left Tingler dangling " is a tongue twister. 18 states also consider it to be pornographic language not to be used within 200 feet of elementary schools.

An 80-some year long drought, a century-plus drought ... Shyeeeet, those were easy. But you want me to take over this mess?!? Ummm, I'm sorry, I have a ... ummm, prior engagement. Yeah, that's it.

And then the kicker is that Stanton's actual HR went about 320'

McSquirrel

"Only" 3:07 thru 8 innings. aka: A quickie by Yanx/Sawx standards.

Gary Sanchez for late inning defense. I'll take substitutes you'd never think of for $600 Alex

Some red hot Hansel Robles action for your viewing pleasure.

How 'bout the insult to injury ending to that inning? Chad Green faces two hitters, gives up a bases-loading walk followed by a 2R single, and only gets out of the inning via a bad baserunning play ... and then he gets stopped by the ump for illegal substance check on his way back to the dugout.

New pitcher, throws six pitches, needs another committee meeting. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

Edgy MD wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Eovaldi follows with an early exit of his own following a solo homer and an infield single. Some guy shy managers, man. Sure. But also a big difference between getting two innings out of your guy vs five-1/3, and particularly so when Mr. Two-plus is the highest paid in the game. Agreed. Just a comment about the environment. No doubt that Booney blinked way first, and way most. Sawx do seem determined to go to as many relievers as possible until they find one who Doesn't have his game tonight. They haven't found him yet, but they'll keep searching.

ESPN2 is carrying a ... let's say calmer, alternate telecast of the game.

Loiasiga throws five pitches after being brought into the game and he needs a mound conference before being allowed to throw another. When I'm made king of the world, outlawing this will be my first edict. and, btw, this was another example of a PH'er causing a mound conference because those, stunningly, don't count against a team's total.

Gotta like two off the wall shots by Stanton which wound up yielding a total of two total bases (I'm assuming they gave him a single-plus-throw on that last one) and an out.

Edgy MD wrote: Eovaldi follows with an early exit of his own following a solo homer and an infield single. Some guy shy managers, man. Sure. But also a big difference between getting two innings out of your guy vs five-1/3, and particularly so when Mr. Two-plus is the highest paid in the game.

ESPN now has a piece of the NHL telecasts this season so they suddenly start recognizing hockey players. How 'bout that?

Early returns (K, GiDP) suggest genius as Clay Holmes gets out of a 1st & 2nd/no-out inherited situation.

Wow-zers!!! Cole pulled after 2+ IPs (12 batters faced, six retired) Preemptive genius by Boone or job-insecure panic?

Nice to see that Schwarber can hit HRs off both NYC teams, not just one. Every other BoSox who swung at that high fastball from Cole tonight has missed it by about a foot.

=Fman99 post_id=79331 time=1633479342 user_id=86] Go Sawx! Stanton turns a near HR into a single by stupidly watching the ball in the first inning.

Lindor by himself was my #2 culprit. His OPS in 2021 was a full 100 points off his prior career mark [OPS+ = 97, down from 118] If it's any consolation, Beltran had a very similar lackluster first season in Queens and turned out to be fine (when he was healthy anyway) On the other hand, Beltran didn't miss 1/4 season in his first year and was known to be (or claimed to be) a leader among players, particularly younger ones, rather than getting into fights with one then complaining about the fans (in code) while barely acknowledging that either was a problem. That Conforto - 1/4 season missed, 114 points off career OPS, Smith - down 144 OPS points and effectively benched by September; McNeil - 1/4 season missed and also 144 OPS points dropped and Nimmo/JDD (barely 162 games played combined) weren't around to pick up even some of the slack didn't help, but it all centers around the high-priced import who needed to be considerably better.

Edgy MD wrote: But what path awaits Scotti now? The minor league season (the minor leagues, where teams linked to the Mlb franchises play) is ending and in all likelihood the pitcher will participate in spring training 2022, where the Mets will then choose where to place him to make him grow At 23 y/o I think it's unrealistic to expect him to get any taller.

Lots of blame to go around as always. But maybe an attempt to prioritize the reasons why the (reasonably) high hopes of March/April turned into a second half collapse from a perch which was never all that high to begin with [10 G over .500 in mid-June] So with the idea that these are reasons rather than excuses (since every team had their issues as well and more than half of them finished with better records than us) throw out your candidate for 2021's biggest culprit. I'll kick it off with the starters. Everyone Knew that the Mets would have good starting pitching this year ... and for a while there, close to half a season, they did. But ultimately a year which had, not just a best-case scenario, but a realistic chance of getting 90+ starts from deGrom, Syndergaard, Carrasco, and David Peterson (remember him?) instead got a grand total of 41 JdG - realistic expectation of 30 starts, got 15 Peterson - call it no more than 25 since it would be his first full year, got 15 Carrasco - again I topped him off short of a full season due to past issues, but still got only 11 Thor - conservatively expected 12, maybe even 15, but effectively got none even though technically two And of course it's not just the ones those guys missed -- especially since neither Carrasco not Peterson were very good -- but of how many of those phantom starts not taken by the core group had to be covered by call-ups & backups. As it turned out we got better than expected results from Megill, but garbage and/or no-shows from Eickoff (4), Lucchesi (8), and Yamamoto (1). And then there were the 'bullpen' games as the likes of Loup, Castro, Drew Smith, Gsellman, Trevor Williams, and Sean Reid-Foley (among others) all started at various times.

Feel bad for the Jays, but math is undefeated in these situations and they wound up one short. Shoulda swept the Yanx this week instead of winning merely two of three.

Frayed Knot wrote: The Mets Win! (the race to finish their game first among the simultaneous start times). Thaaaaaa ... Mets WIN!!!!! Impressive given that they started last. They couldn't get a game done in under 3:20 all year but they sure knew how to get outta Dodge today -- 2:26