Frayed Knot

metsmarathon wrote: i'd like to see the list of hitters who, when locked in such a tight race, and leading, did take the field on the final day. A number of hitters have done the same over the years. We (me anyway) might not like this but it's hardly the first time. Jose Reyes is trending nationwide on Twitter and most are very anti-Jose, including nasty ones from Jim Rome and Greg Zaun. Fuck Jim Rome, and every other ESPN-ite who only pays attention to baseball when they find something to knock about it. And if he hates this then I'm suddenly changing my mind.

It's not tainted, just the way it was handled makes the ending less satisfying that it should have been (if it in fact comes to be). It's also not 1958 anymore when BA was the holy grail of offensive baseball so I barely pay attention to who the "batting champion" is these days (couldn't tell you who won any of the last five in either league) which is why I'd rather my guy lose it on the field than win it on the bench.

2:15 - says about all you need to know.

Reds hitters determined not to miss their plane.

metirish wrote: Edgy DC wrote: They paid tribute to Pete Flynn before the game. Nice. cool, any reason why?, is he actually retiring full time? Apparently, yes.

Edgy DC wrote: metirish wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: It would also fit their usual pattern of doing something for pr reasons only to get hit with a pr shit-storm right back in their face. This , the Mets are spectacularly good at it. Which is strange. It suggests that they're not over-concerned with the fan's perception, nor under-concerned. They're just tremendously tone-deaf. (Or they have a fickle fan base, which is probably true enough also.) You'd figure it should be easy enough to fix with a some professional development in the PR department. A retreat or something. It's the tone-deafness. They think their fan base wants to say that one of their guys has a batting championship far more than they want to watch that guy win the batting championship. It's wanting so much to stage the applause moment of the star being pulled from the final game that they do it too soon and step all over that moment.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I wonder if any pressure to remove Jose came from 'upstairs' (meaning Wilpons more than Sandy). We've accused this ownership/team of over-caring so to speak about pr moments, round numbers, and the like - which leads one to wonder about whether the quick hook was ordered or at least strongly encouraged on account of having 'a batting champion' being so darn important to someone with some pull. Certainly goes against Terry's recent stretch of bunty, relievey, desperate baseball. I really don't care all that much anymore but always a disappointment when fans can openly debate the motives of the management. It would also fit their usual pattern of doing something for pr reasons only to get hit with a pr shit-storm right back in their face.

dgwphotography wrote: Just on principle, I want Braun to go 3 for 3 tonight... I want him to go 3-for-3, then stay in the game and get another hit on top of it. Something else about rounding off BAs that I heard a couple days ago while listening to a StL broadcast. If you hit say .29957 it goes into the books as .300, but if there's some kind of consecutive streak thing going the same average would NOT count keeping that streak alive. Specifically they were talking about Pujols who has a .300+ BA in each of his first 10 seasons but has been hovering around the .300 mark much of the 2nd half and goes into today at .29965

No ties unless there's an actual tie.

I wonder if any pressure to remove Jose came from 'upstairs' (meaning Wilpons more than Sandy). We've accused this ownership/team of over-caring so to speak about pr moments, round numbers, and the like - which leads one to wonder about whether the quick hook was ordered or at least strongly encouraged on account of having 'a batting champion' being so darn important to someone with some pull.

[bigpurple:3pot1njk]BOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!![/bigpurple:3pot1njk]

Willets Point wrote: Is there a tie-breaker for the Wild Card or would they go to a playoff game if still tied. Playoffs baby. One gamer on Thursday. StL & (I believe) Tampa won a flip for home field should it come to that. They only go to tie-breakers to determine seeding among teams already in the post-season.

So the Brewers thought they had the #2 seed clinched until the D-Backs put up a six-spot in the bottom of the 10th. And check out how the inning unfolded: * GO - GO ... so there's two out, no one on, and a 5-run lead in the 10th * Then =#00BF40]IF single, 1B, BB, E-5 that would have ended the game. Now it's still a 4-run lead though with the bases loaded and out goes hard-luck hurler Blake Hawksworth (what's a hawksworth you ask? ... oh a trained one will run you several thousands bucks) ... and in comes Javy Guevera (who I've barely heard of but apparently he's been closing for the Dodgers for a while now) * =#00BF40]BB (for run #2) and then =#00bf40]GS by Ryan 'How ya like my neck tattoo' Roberts

Oh, I see, it's [u:fpa2db24]Newark[/u:fpa2db24] the Yanx are looking at not Trenton so the territorial rights thingy does kick in. I misread the earlier reference - mainly because I'm forever conflating all those NJ cities.

Both former Met Howe & current one DePodesta less than pleased with how they're portrayed. Howe (to InsideBayArea.com): �I�m very disappointed, very disappointed, ... I look at it as character assassination. It wasn�t even close to my personality,� ... �They just went out of their way to degrade me.� �I spent my whole career trying to build a good reputation and I think I did that but this movie certainly doesn�t help it," the mild-mannered Howe said on Sirius/XM Radio. "And it is definitely unfair and untrue. If you ask any player that ever played for me they would say that they never saw this side of me, ever.� DePodesta: "I can't take it seriously and I certainly can't take it personally. We'll see when I actually see it, but I'm determined not to take it too seriously." DePodesta had asked the producers not to use his name in the picture -- "I was asked and saw some different iterations of the script, and I realized the character that was in there wasn't even me. At that point I had to remind myself, 'It's a movie. It's fiction.' " However, a Los Angeles columnist who covered DePodesta as Dodgers GM says actor Jonah Hill "nails DePodesta ... his shy mannerisms, his uncomfortable silences, his awkwardness in sharing his newfangled theories with old men spitting tobacco into cups, his fear in dealing with players."

Well in that case I have no idea why the Mets would have a say in or get money for a temporary move of SWB to Trenton. Maybe Trost, Levine and the Steinbrenner boys are just really nice guys (hey that's a good there FK)

Probably has to do with territorial rights. The problem stems from the fact that the stadium at SWB needs major refurbishing/replacement (I forget which) which puts the AAA Yanx into gypsy-hood for next season. One thought, I guess, is to double-up at Trenton, to use that field - already the home of the AA Yanx - for both teams for one year. Trenton, though, is probably considered part of the NYC market to the point where either big league club has veto rights over the introduction of a new team within organized ball. IOW, 'yeah, we signed off on that AA team but we didn't agree to youse guys having a AA [u:2es44xax]AND[/u:2es44xax] AAA teams in our backyard'.

Cordero faces five batters, retires one of them, and still doesn't allow a run.

If Turner swings at the first pitch I want him cut immediately.

Three batters, three walks, plus a balk ... and we're still not close to scoring.

Cordero's thrown one pitch over the plate this inning and twice as many as that to the backstop - and he still has an out.

[bigpurple:33erq30a]GOOD GOD, STOP IT!!!![/bigpurple:33erq30a]

Amazing what you can accomplish when you: a) use the bunt as an offensive weapon rather than a passive strategy are able to make actual bat-to-ball contact when bunting

And our relay throws continue to suck, no matter who's making them.

Sox survive 3 runs on the cards of Bard & Papelbon.