Frayed Knot

So it's true that every time a Cabrera strikes out an Angel (Pagan) gets his ring.

Prince had a bad series, Cabrera had a (mostly) bad series, Verlander had a bad series (bad game anyway), Peralta had a bad series. Tough to win when your big guns come up short.

And it's ovah!!

Sergio trying to become the 2nd Romo to be good for the Giants today.

Kong76 wrote: Howard Cosell was a lot of things, a shill wasn't one of them. It was Dick Young who used to call him that, claiming that Howard found only positive things to say about the NFL while he was part of the MNF package and only found negative things in the league after he was no longer on that beat.

Yeah y'know Bud, these games aren't long enough, why not first allow the network to delay the game on account of the football running long and then add in a mandatory ceremony in the 7th inning just to stretch things out a bit.

And he gets away with it anyway - although you get the feeling that he could pitch just about anyone right now at the Tiggers wouldn't score.

Man I wouldn't take Lincecum out now ... but Bochy is doing just that.

[u:26rtq9jf]Game 3[/u:26rtq9jf] 2 GiDPs for the Tigers in the first 3 innings of this game which makes it four for the series so far (21 innings). Between those and the caught stealings, the pick-offs, and Prince getting thrown out at the plate, the Tigers simply aren't getting enough base-runners to be giving away so many outs. Especially when one of the GiDPswas with two on and in front of Cabrera, the other was with two on right after Cabrera got on. Two of the four were by Prince.

Couple of comments from Joel Sherman today - I have spoken to more than 10 officials outside the organization in the past few days and every one of them thinks the Mets will end up extending Wright � and sooner rather than later because it will give them a base from which to move forward both this offseason and into the future. And he winds up suggesting that a package of 8/143 would be around a likely final figure including when the 2013 option is included - an option which needs to be triggered five days after the completion of the WS. In all, a deal that size would top both that of Ryan Zimmerman on a per year and length basis and also wind up as the highest total package in NYM history, just above that which was given to Santana.

This is 2012, we're not supposed to be referring to black players as Nigers anymore.

Johnson admitted Cashman [stadium] could use a few improvements, including indoor facilities for the players. I know, I hate it when places force you to use those outdoor toilets.

Sabathia has surgery to remove a bone spur in his throwing arm but nothing more serious than that But suddenly Mariano Rivera isn't so sure about coming back next season despite his initial claims to "write in down in big letters".

Recker? I hardly knew her! Listed at 6' 2" - 240. I'm guessing he's not a speedster. Minor league stats show decent pop, lots of strike-outs, gets his walks. IOW, a Kelly Shoppach clone without the Pedro Beato price tag. His PCL stats are mostly from Sacramento & Des Moines, two places you'd expect to be less hitter-friendly than many of the higher-altitude stops on that circuit so maybe there'll be less lost in translation in this case.

The thing is that the Tigers didn't really hit a whole lot in the first two series - their pitchers (not including the closer) did most of the heavy lifting in both series. The offense was held to 3 runs or less in 5 of the 9 games but still managed to win three of those five. At some point they'll need Miggy & Prince to wake up.

Twelve Tiger outs so far and they've only made Bumgarner earn ten of them. Not a great recipe for scoring.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Really stupid call by the 3rd base coach. Yup. Even a bad move if it wasn't Prince running.

The non-tender rules never were the same as the FA rules - and, as mentioned, those FA rules were changed a while ago anyway. And none of this has anything to do with 10+5 players. Non-tendering simply means you're releasing your rights to that player by not offering him a contract, if effect making him a FA prior to when he could earn that right on his own. Once that happens your team is able to sign that player just like any other team. The upside to it all is that it allows teams to bypass arbitration rules and whatever minimum salary they'd have to offer by keeping the player. The obvious downside is that you now have competition for that player.

MFS62 wrote: Maybe the Yanks are watching. You don't need a superstar at every position to be a good team. Just good pitching, sound defense and a third baseman who can hit when it counts. (MFS62, stirring the Yankee reporter drink.) Later I expect a flood of calls to FAN in the near future (they may have already started last night) from Yanqui fans demanding to sign Pedro Sandoval this winter, both on the basis that he's now a 'proven clutch October performer' and that if he can hit HRs in that park then just imagine what he can do in their little playground. The fact that he just signed a three-year deal with SF and is thus unable to simply jump to the Bronx for money for at least another three years will come as a surprise to many of them because of the assumption that such trivial obstacles don't apply to their team. Once satisfied that that option won't work the trade proposals will then come out. Most likely to be offered: ARod. Edward Nunez. Brett Gardner. And of course the old fall-back: 'a coupla prospects'.

I remember when Sheffield fired his agent then negotiated his own contract with Steinbrenner after coming to the Yanquis. He then spent the next three years complaining about being duped into a bad deal. Yeah, I want that guy for my agent.

OMG! It's Panda-monium!! and he's going to have at least two more ABs

Are the Tigers allowed to use a pitcher who doesn't exist in the World Series? I would have thought there were rules against that. 98 pitches for Verlander just to get through 4 innings. Even with the guys he was getting out it was taking him a lot of effort.

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Edgar Renterea There was a decade or so where it seemed that he was required to be in the lineup for one of the World Series' teams. Only 3 times in the WS as it turns out, but he did make the playoffs 7 different times with 4 different teams over a 16 year career so, yeah, it did seem that way. Meanwhile, I suspect this is a little suspected fact: The Giants have won the last 13 times (11 reg season + one each in LDS + LCS) that Barry Zito has started a game (8 wins for him + 5 NDs). The last game he & the Giants lost when he started?: when the Mets hung up a 7-spot on his and ran his ass out 'da game in the 5th inning on August 2nd in an eventual 9-1 win. The Mets took 3 of 4 that week (in San Fran) dropping the Giants to just a half-game lead out west. After that they pretty much went on a winning streak.

Just for kicks, the starting lineups of the [u:3lwv8o4m]previous time[/u:3lwv8o4m] these two teams played in the series For the Giants it was just two seasons ago 1 - Andres Torres - CF --- Wonder where he is today? 2 - Freddie Sanchez - 2B --- Was in the Giants system this year but injured 3 - Buster Posey - C 4 - Pat Burrell - LF --- Retired 5 - Cody Ross - RF --- One of the heros of that series IIRC. Spent this season in Boston 6 - Aubrey Huff - 1B --- Got a big contract off that year. Is still on the team, but just a PH due to both physical and mental issues over the last two seasons 7 - Juan Uribe - 3B ---Got a big deal off the Dodgers after this year, one I bet they regret making. 8 - Edgar Renterea - SS --- Retired 9 - Tim Lincecum - P --- The 2-time CY winner who they're now afraid to let start With the Tiggers being six years back you expect more of a turnover 1 - Curtis Granderson - CF --- And once again he helped Detroit reach the World Series!! 2 - Craig Monroe - LF --- Out of baseball by 2009 3 - Placido Polanco - 2B --- Came from the Phillies in a mid-year deal that year. He stayed with Detroit for several more seasons before signing back with Philly 4 - Magglio Ordonez - RF --- Retired 5 - Carlos Guillen - 1B --- The former middle-infielder stayed with the Tigers through last season but appears to now be retired. 6 - Ivan Rodriguez - C --- Retired 7 - Sean Casey - DH --- Retired 8 - Brandon Inge - 3B --- Started this season with Detroit but is now with Oakland and no longer the hitter he once was 9 - Ramon Santiago - SS --- Is still with the team although hasn't had any appearances in the post-season and may not even be on the active roster P - Justin Verlander --- The rookie who had only pitched 11 ML innings in the reg season plus 11 more in the playoffs leading up to the WS was given the game one start even though the entire staff was rested. He was promptly bombed for 6 runs in 5 innings.

I think it's nice that the team brought back Roy McMillan (top right) to play SS