Frayed Knot wrote: I have no problem believing that Piazza took steroids (as I've said before, anyone and everyone is suspect from that era) but parts of what Chass here is basing it on is either demonstrably false or highly speculative. �There was nothing more obvious than Mike on steroids,� says another major league veteran who played against Piazza for years. �Everyone talked about it, everyone knew it. Guys on my team, guys on the Mets. A lot of us came up playing against Mike, so we knew what he looked like back in the day. Frankly, he sucked on the field. Just sucked. After his body changed, he was entirely different. �Power from nowhere,� we called it.� Fine, but Piazza was always big, bigger than his brothers (even the older one), bigger than other kids his age, and worked at his strength from a young age. And this "power from nowhere" stuff doesn't hold up either, not as an amateur and not when he was hitting 50+ HRs over two seasons in the minors as a 22/23 y/o. The bottom line is that what Chass seems to be doing here is looking for one instance, one second-hand rumor, or one twice-relayed statement that will allow him to disqualify someone for taking PEDs. So if some third party says that he thinks Biggio took drugs or that someone told someone else that he did then that's good enough for him. He's allowed his opinion but it's a stupid way to go filling out a HoF ballot. The "fact" that Piazza was a player who "sucked" until suddenly becoming a late bloomer as a power hitter gets further rebuttal over at Amazin' Avenue