batmagadanleadoff wrote: First of all, and foremost, I think he's sort of a crappy hitter. One who, in his 2nd year in the majors (neither one full) managed to raise his BA by 29 points, OBA by 40, and SLG by 30 Also it's tough to argue that a .281/.321/.382 hitter, in a year where his league averaged .249/.312/.383, qualifies as "crappy" - particularly from a GG winner at an up the middle position. I know he's a great fielder but the thing is that I don't really know how good a fielder he is and what the value is for that. By a nice coincidence, the NY Times had a piece on Juan Laggy today Among other things, they cited 'Baseball Info Solutions', "one of the sport’s most respected analytics outfits [which] evaluate[d] outfielders on the number of plays they make in three areas — shallow, medium and deep. The company found that Lagares ranked among the top center fielders in all three categories. Perhaps more impressive, the company concluded that Lagares also saved 52 runs over the last two years, best among center fielders. As a rule of thumb, said John Dewan, the founder of Baseball Info, about 10 runs saved equal about one victory. Lagares’s defense alone, then, could be credited for about five Mets wins over the last two years, and he played center field for only about 68 percent of the Mets’ games in that period."