Frayed Knot

Yeah, sounds like a high-ceiling but low floor type of guy who is athletic but will need a lot of fixing' and tinkering' to make run smoothly. Not the type you'd expect a team to go for when their first pick is outside the top 50 but yaneverknow.

HahnSolo wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: The Yanquis have armed Nazis (OK they're not armed, and probably not all of them are certified Nazis either) who prevent any walking around during their (Daily!) 7th inning dog and pony show. Need to go to the bathroom? -- Tough, wait until next inning. No walking is allowed (or aloud) at this time! I went to the new YS for the first time earlier this year (the Harvey start) and for some reason made a concerted effort to look at my section to see if any security and/or ushers were blocking folks from leaving/re-entering their section. And at least in my section people were free to come and go. So I guess the stadium has that going for it. Yeah, I think that lawsuit Ceetar mentions several posts above put an end to that period where they were preventing -- sometimes physically and/or with threats of ejection from the stadium -- people from leaving their seats during the 7th inning stretch "ceremonies". I much prefer the rules -- or at least the suggestions -- where you're discouraged from walking around During innings. There are several parks where ushers will politely hold fans returning from bathrooms or concessions at the top of the aisles until they're between outs on the field.

As the compensation rules have changed over the years, I was trying to link just the direct gains or losses as the result of FA signings. IOW, only those picks that were transferred from one team to another as opposed to 'extra' picks like Wright or Plawecki which were gained by the Mets but not directly lost by the other team. Under today's rules, the Mets lose their place in line at (I believe) #15 but the one the Rox gain is #27 so it becomes even tougher to see in hindsight how the final thing balances out.

Centerfield wrote: I really really really hope the pick Colorado got for Cuddyer ends up being the second coming of Jason Tyner. More often than not the problems with the compensation-attached FAs we've signed hasn't been that we missed out on some once-in-a-generation draft pick as much as they didn't get as much out of the FA as hoped. 1999 - pick #22 went to the ChiSox in compensation for the signing of Robin Ventura. The Sox drafted Matt Ginter who never did much and wound up doing some of that not much with the Mets 2001 -- pick #26 was forfeited to the A's for the signing of Kevin Appier. A's draft HS pitcher Jeremy Bonderman who was a decent middle of the rotation starter for a time (although was the pick that caused Billy Beane to heave a chair against the wall in MONEYBALL) 2006 -- Phils take Kyle Drabek with the 18th overall pick they got in exchange for the Mets signing of Billy Wagner. Drake's career never took off as many predicted although the Phils were able to package him in a trade (w/d'Arnaud and others) for Roy Halladay. 2007 -- Mets cede pick # 29 to the Giants for Moises Alou. SF drafts Wendell Fairley who never makes the majors. 2009 -- Angels had back to back picks (#24 & 25) from the two NY teams as compensation for losing Francisco Rodriguez and Mark Teixeira. With the Mets' pick LAA chose Randall Grichuk (recently traded to StL) one pick before choosing Mike Trout w/the Teixeira pick ... so maybe a bit of a cautionary tale there. On the flip side, the Mets chose: Bill Traber w/pick #16 in exchange for losing John Olerud (Traber became part of the Robby Alomar trade) Aaron Heilman with pick #18 when the Rox signed Mike Hampton (and some guy named Wright was the 'sandwich' pick that year 20 slots later) Ike Davis was our compensation when Glavine returned to Atlanta, 18th pick 2008

I'm sure he's got too much ML service time/out of options for a minor league assignment which, if so, means it wouldn't even be a question of waivers, he could simply refuse a demotion and force a play-me or trade-me situation.

Reportedly Mo-Jr jumped up if people's eyes as a result of this past HS season. So while six months ago he was more a curiosity with a famous name, it's possible he's climbed to better than 4th round talent now. But, yeah, top 60 would be nuts for an average sized, teenaged right-hander with essentially one good year under his belt. But it still could be worse, there are [u:1lnklvr9]two[/u:1lnklvr9] K. Clemens eligible in this draft.

Better him (Nevin) than Mariano Rivera Jr.

What's mainly happening here is that the East division is getting its collective butt kicked now that they're playing out of division games. It was hard to judge the group in April as they mostly just played each other, but the division now is cumulative 18 game under .500 and almost all of that is from May & early June NLC = +6; NLW = +6 (NL as a whole is 37-43 in interleague play) Nats in particular have losing records against: TOR, CUBS, StL, REDS, & BOSOX (6-13 total) with only a cumulative 5-2 vs ARZ & SD to balance it off.

Draft starts at 7 PM tonight where they'll announce the first 75 choices - so 1 NYM pick today (#53) at I'm guessing around 10 PM Rounds 3-10 on Tuesday, then 11-40 on Wednesday (what is this, football, they need three days now?) Daz Cameron - as if you couldn't guess [fimg=500:8qn0mhi5]http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/5/5/8/87502558/cuts/daz_q4y8w58j_va9xsjto.jpg[/fimg:8qn0mhi5]

... mostly courtesy of the Puma * Bobby Parnell is due to come off his rehab assignment this week. His numbers in the minors weren't pretty (ERAs of 10+, WHiPs north of 2.5 -- those aren't merely 'not pretty' they're 'not pretty' the way Phyllis Diller wasn't pretty) and his velocity is reportedly down in the lower 90s, but there are limits on how long a team can string those rehab things out and his is about to end. You're not demoted yet Leathersich but don't send your laundry out. * On the other hand the Mets do have options with rehabbing reliever Vic Black and they're using one of them, removing him from the DL and reassigning him to AAA Vegas. His numbers aren't a whole lot prettier than Parnell's (although in a smaller sample size) and here there's also talk of a drop in velocity. * d'Arnaud and/or Herrera could be back by week's end. I know that d'Arnaud is probably closer to burning up his rehab days so my guess is we'd see him first. But Terry is quoted as saying "we need performance not names" and is wary of seeing guys go through their own spring training in mid-June (a la Murphy in April) so I'm betting they'll have Dilson use up his entire rehab clock and even then they have the option of giving him some minor league time. * Rafael Montero is slated to get back to throwing again this week after -- say it with me folks -- being forced to back off rehab program

Frayed Knot wrote: And now the Sisyphus-ian attempt to actually get a no-out baserunner around to the plate. Poof!

He might have slow feet but he got hisself some fast hands. And now the Sisyphus-ian attempt to actually get a no-out baserunner around to the plate.

Wow, you mean our defense is allowed to turn DPs too?

Nope, they made the mistake of getting the leadoff guy on again. WON'T THEY EVER LEARN?!?!?! 3 more ABs w/runners on including 2 w/RiSP, and 1 w/RiSP< 2 outs = 0

So now we're up to 7 of the last 8 runs via HRs with Campbell's single on Friday being the only RBI not to go over the fence going back to Mayberry's 2R HR in the 9th inning Thursday. Now I just need my fucking TV screen to stop "tiling" so I can actually see the game.

3 of our last 4 runs scored (over a 19 inning span) have come via solo HRs. Campbell's 4th inning single Friday night was the one outlier. Unfortunately that hit was also the final hit of that game.

The current line on the 'Irregulars' [Campbell, Plawecki, Mayberry, Tejada, Recker, Herrera, Nieuwenhuis, Monell, Muno, and Ceciliani] stands at a combined .195/.262/.300 although even that sorry line is somewhat inflated up by the recent surge from Tejada. Take him out and we're getting a robust .182/.247/.282 with a 30% K-rate

Edgy MD wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: As we continue to ignore the question of why the batter wouldn't then just switch to the side he wants to hit from ... AND what would get the game moving again! Because the batter has to set last. And if the pitcher has his hips square to you, and it's unclear which hand he's going to slip out of the glove and grab the ball with, tough. If he's in the stretch, and one hip is pointed at you, then he's tipped his hand. At which point you call time, step out, and switch boxes.

The batter can switch, too. But once the pitcher selects, the pitcher's locked into his selection for that pitch. Each pitch wipes the slate clean selection-wise. Then we're back to choice #2: the pitcher has no reason to switch because the batter will just switch on him too which gets you right back to where you started with the batter choosing what he does based on what the pitcher has chosen to do. The only difference here is that it's done on a pitch by pitch basis rather than by AB by AB -- but there'd be no pitch-by-pitch switching because there'd be no advantage for the pitcher to do so and therefore we're back to the conditions dictated by the current rule that you seem to want to blow up.

But on the next pitch, the pitcher can select all over again. But the batter can't? And, if not, all you've done is create the same rule only with the batter having to declare his intentions ahead of time instead of the pitcher. And, if so, the pitcher's got no reason to switch because the batter will just switch on him too which gets you right back to where you started with the batter choosing what he does based on what the pitcher has chosen to do.

Probably opted for Mayberry so as to stay out of the double play. Ooooops.

Fuckin' Pathetic!! 10 hits plus 2 walks plus a catcher's interference and nothing produced a run except for the HR which, of course, came with the bases empty.

As we continue to ignore the question of why the batter wouldn't then just switch to the side he wants to hit from ... AND what would get the game moving again!

Gwreck wrote: Still 567. Cuddyer was the second batter of the inning, not the leadoff batter. Yes I know that but I was making the point that NO ONE who gets on base for the Mets winds up scoring. The other problem is that there are no living New York Mets with a successful bunt on their resumes, either as a Sac or for a hit.

Y'know this really isn't that difficult. Edgy MD wrote: Pitcher takes his position on the rubber, the batter has to take his in the box. But there are two boxes, so the batter is going to see what hand the glove is on and pick the opposite side. But if the pitcher isn't forced to declare then he swaps his glove to the other hand ... at which point the batter changes boxes ... at which point the pitcher switches hands ... at which point the batter changes boxes ... at which point the pitcher switches hands ... at which point the batter changes boxes ... at which point the pitcher switches hands ... at which point the batter changes boxes ... at which point the pitcher switches hands ... at which point the batter changes boxes ... at which point the pitcher switches hands ... at which point the batter changes boxes ... at which point the pitcher switches hands ... So you put in a rule which says that somebody has to make the first move and stick with it.