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It never ends: Putz's rehab appearance for Brooklyn tonight has been postponed.

I can't think of anything positive. When he pitched on Friday and looked so good, I was wondering where that was in '07 and '08 and how history could have been different if he was available in at least one of those two Septembers.

From boston.com: It is not expected that any more than one of the two players the Sox are giving up will come from the 40-man roster, and neither is considered an upper-tier prospect. ----------------- From NY Baseball Digest: Billy Wagner Trade: Who Are PTBNL? By Howard Megdal ~ August 25th, 2009. Filed under: Howard Megdal. It is done. The Billy Wagner Era, lasting approximately 3 7/9 seasons, has come to an end with New York dealing Wagner to Boston for two players to be named later. Mike Axisa of MLBTradeRumors speculates that the two players are on Boston�s 40-man roster, but wouldn�t have gotten through waivers, thus making the PTBNL process necessary. Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post says the pair are Double-A prospects. So who will it be? Among the 40-man, only one player is currently in Double-A: Felix Doubront. This would be fantastic. Doubront is holding his own as a 21-year-old at Double-A.In 104 innings, he has 94 strikeouts, 48 walks and a 3.38 ERA. He doesn�t turn 22 until October. This would be a nice return by itself for Wagner. the Mets need upper-level help, and chances are a draft pick wouldn�t be this good or this advanced in 2010. As for the Triple-A members of the 40-man roster, the talent really runs the gamut, from players like Michael Bowden and Josh Reddick, to lesser lights like Mark Wagner and Brian Anderson. If the Mets compromised on a pair like the latter two- and I suppose it is distinctly possible, if they were frightened enough of offering Wagner arbitration to simply prefer to be rid of his salary- they absolutely did not get decent value for a pitcher who provides help to Boston in 2009, and who could have netted a pair of draft picks for the Mets in 2010. Only time will tell, but this is the lay of the PTBNL land right now. Hope for Reddick and Doubront; get ready to settle for Wagner and Anderson.

Speaking of minor leaguers... Nick Evans is back. (That was mean!)

NYPost_MetsJust passed Billy Wagner in the team hotel as he was headed back to his room. He had a big grin and said, "I'm outta here!"

You're right: they'll probably announce the names after the Eastern League season concludes. How about Iggy Suarez? Good: he was born in Corona. Bad: two years at AA and a low average. http://eastern.league.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=2B&sid=t546&t=p_pbp&pid=458902

Done. The Mets got 2 PTBNL. And the exciting news is that there'll be someone new in a Mets uni tonight.

# SI_JonHeymanwagner is on verge of accepting #redsox deal, according to sources. 10 mins 'til deadline. #mets7 minutes ago from web #Bart Hubbuch NYPost_MetsAfter lobbying by the Mets, a team source says Billy Wagner is now open to the Red Sox trade. No deal yet, though. 1:30 p.m. deadline.7 minutes ago from web So the Mets had to "lobby" Billy to take the deal. It shows that they do not want to pay his salary for September.

Ted Williams' severed head. Or Casey Kotchman.

Tweets say a trade announcement is coming.

="Edgy DC":1sdmp1ph]Pagan picked off. Good move, I say![/quote:1sdmp1ph] He was trying to stay out of the double play. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 24 2009 12:34 PM ="bmfc1":1si24kmo]So over two consecutive games, the top of the first had 3 3-run homeruns, and in the bottom of the first, the lead-off batter went all around the bases each time. Happens all the time.[/quote:1si24kmo] Jayson Stark just tweeted that this last happened in 1915 -- Phillies v. NY Giants. MFS62 Aug 24 2009 12:41 PM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2jedxid0] Jayson Stark just tweeted that this last happened in 1915 -- Phillies v. NY Giants.[/quote:2jedxid0] I'm guessing that we'll never see any mention of that moment in the CitiField rotunda. Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 12:42 PM Going to, like, nine pitches in each of the Cliff Lee at-bats probably didn't help that pitch count too much. MFS62 Aug 24 2009 01:04 PM Ken, you da' man! Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 01:05 PM Striking out Ryno... like tossing salad! Nice one, Ken-do. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 01:35 PM BREAKING NEWS: General Mets offensive production is still dead. On to pitch the eighth: 37 year-old asset of indeterminate value. smg58 Aug 24 2009 01:44 PM There was a report this morning that the Sox were expressing concern about Wagner's arm, as he hadn't yet pitched in this series. I'm guessing it will take more than one walk and no hits in a scoreless inning with two strikeouts to force the Mets to pull him off waivers.

Major league baseball at its best. Howie is quoting Taggart from Blazing Saddles: "what in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?" And then they played an audio clip--it sounded like a morning zoo.

Two errors by Utley. Howie and Wayne are praising Pagan for doing something that everybody should do--hustle. Utley dropped a pop-up and then threw the ball away. Pagan safe at first on 2nd baseman Utley's fielding error, Pagan scored on Utley's throwing error

So over two consecutive games, the top of the first had 3 3-run homeruns, and in the bottom of the first, the lead-off batter went all around the bases each time. Happens all the time.

="HahnSolo":31pddce8]="bmfc1":31pddce8] Francoeur woke up with swelling in his thumb. He's at the Hospital for Special Surgery this morning. [/quote:31pddce8] See you in St. Lucie, Jeff![/quote:31pddce8] I'm ready! Valadius Aug 24 2009 11:28 AM Amidst all the suckage, Castillo has quietly upped his batting average from .300 to .321 in the last ten days. Valadius Aug 24 2009 11:29 AM Wait, what the hell just happened with Pagan? bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 11:30 AM So over two consecutive games, the top of the first had 3 3-run homeruns, and in the bottom of the first, the lead-off batter went all around the bases each time. Happens all the time. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 11:30 AM ="Valadius":2gw8xmvb]Wait, what the hell just happened with Pagan?[/quote:2gw8xmvb] What he said. Anyone watching/listening to this? bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 11:33 AM Two errors by Utley. Howie and Wayne are praising Pagan for doing something that everybody should do--hustle. Utley dropped a pop-up and then threw the ball away. Pagan safe at first on 2nd baseman Utley's fielding error, Pagan scored on Utley's throwing error LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 11:36 AM So he just kept on running? Why, that's Teixeirian-level hustle! 3-2, after the Sheff triple and Tatis sac fly. The Russian is cut? Nymr83 Aug 24 2009 11:37 AM Sheffield drops a flyball, wtf? Vince Coleman Firecracker Aug 24 2009 11:37 AM Wow. Shef just dropped it. Yeesh. Fman99 Aug 24 2009 11:38 AM Another drop. Sheff's iron glove. Jeez. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 11:40 AM Well, he allowed a 'double'... but hit a triple! Net positive! bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 11:40 AM Major league baseball at its best. Howie is quoting Taggart from Blazing Saddles: "what in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?" And then they played an audio clip--it sounded like a morning zoo. seawolf17 Aug 24 2009 12:01 PM What, exactly, happened with Pagan? Forgot this was a day game and tuned into GameCast late. Ashie62 Aug 24 2009 12:05 PM OK, weirder..Verizon's homepage has Wagner demanding Mets decline 2010 option before approving trade to Red Sox He wants to sign with the Fucksox at a lower rate next season I assume Omar..do not accomodate him unless Boston coughs up Lars Anderson seawolf17 Aug 24 2009 12:08 PM ="Ashie62":1lnbxl99]OK, weirder..Verizon's homepage has Wagner demanding Mets decline 2010 option before approving trade to Red Sox He wants to sign with the Fucksox at a lower rate next season I assume Omar..do not accomodate him unless Boston coughs up Lars Anderson[/quote:1lnbxl99] Well, of course he wants to sign a contract for less money. Wouldn't you? And of course the Red Sox are going to give up their top prospect for a situational lefty who's pitched one major league inning in the last twelve months and may or may not still be hurt. Come back to this planet, Ash. Oh, and eff Ryan Howard. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 12:10 PM Eff Ryan Howard two times. Edgy DC Aug 24 2009 12:16 PM Pagan picked off. Good move, I say! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 12:23 PM So, today, the kid's been pretty good at striking out a pitcher who had been until very recently an American Leaguer his entire major-league career. Bully! bmfc1 Aug 24 2009 12:27 PM ="Edgy DC":1sdmp1ph]Pagan picked off. Good move, I say![/quote:1sdmp1ph] He was trying to stay out of the double play. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 24 2009 12:34 PM ="bmfc1":1si24kmo]So over two consecutive games, the top of the first had 3 3-run homeruns, and in the bottom of the first, the lead-off batter went all around the bases each time. Happens all the time.[/quote:1si24kmo] Jayson Stark just tweeted that this last happened in 1915 -- Phillies v. NY Giants. MFS62 Aug 24 2009 12:41 PM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2jedxid0] Jayson Stark just tweeted that this last happened in 1915 -- Phillies v. NY Giants.[/quote:2jedxid0] I'm guessing that we'll never see any mention of that moment in the CitiField rotunda. Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 12:42 PM Going to, like, nine pitches in each of the Cliff Lee at-bats probably didn't help that pitch count too much. MFS62 Aug 24 2009 01:04 PM Ken, you da' man! Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 01:05 PM Striking out Ryno... like tossing salad! Nice one, Ken-do. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2009 01:35 PM BREAKING NEWS: General Mets offensive production is still dead. On to pitch the eighth: 37 year-old asset of indeterminate value. smg58 Aug 24 2009 01:44 PM There was a report this morning that the Sox were expressing concern about Wagner's arm, as he hadn't yet pitched in this series. I'm guessing it will take more than one walk and no hits in a scoreless inning with two strikeouts to force the Mets to pull him off waivers.

Phillies: Victorino CF Werth RF Utley 2B Howard 1B Ibanez LF Feliz 3B Bruntlett SS Bako C Lee P METS: Angel Pagan CF Luis Castillo 2B Gary Sheffield LF Fernando Tatis 3B Daniel Murphy 1B Omir Santos C Cory Sullivan RF Anderson Hernandez SS Bobby Parnell RHP (3-5, 4.74) Francoeur woke up with swelling in his thumb. He's at the Hospital for Special Surgery this morning. Goodbye Misch, welcome back Takahashi.

Here's something else for this bizarre baseball day: a Mets minor leaguer threw a no-hitter! http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_08_23_broasx_abeasx_1

I can't believe that Jerry wasn't asked about sending the runners. Maybe he was and FAN didn't play it.

Second time in history. Jayson Stark is so happy, he tweeted over and over. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1927/B05310DET1927.htm

What was the point of putting the runners in motion? If Jerry doesn't, that's a single and the bases are loaded w/none out. If they're down by one, OK but two? No, especially when the trail runner, the important runner because he's the tying run, is slow. Classic over-managing by Jerry.

So Francoeur could have gotten tossed by arguing and then the umpires end up correcting the call.

I don't have a Baseball Prospectus account but someone at Sons of Sam Horn does and he excerpted a Joe Sheehan column from Saturday: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A bit more than a year removed from his last major league appearance, Billy Wagner took the mound at Citi Field last night in the top of the eighth inning against the Braves. His entrance was greeted with loud cheers, and those cheers grew as he struck out the first man he faced and then completed his one-two-three inning with a second whiff. Wagner left the mound to the better part of a standing ovation, the crowd sounding a bit like it was celebrating the tension of a critical late-season game. That�s not where the Mets were, though. The team Billy Wagner left last August 2 was two games out of first place in the NL East. The team he returned to is playing out the string in a lost year. The raucous cheers for Wagner, understandable for a good and popular player returning from a serious injury, fell flat to me. It was the absence of Wagner down the stretch in the last two seasons that was the single biggest reason the Mets missed the playoffs in those years, the single biggest reason for the enormous amount of pressure on the 2009 team. Wagner was intermittently available in '07, watching his teammates blow leads in at least one critical game that September and himself losing two, including one to the Phillies in late August. By suffering a season-ending injury in early August last year, Wagner forced the Mets to use lesser relievers at a point in the season where finding substitutes would be difficult. Wagner�s hero�s welcome was dissonant.

Small victories: seeing that jackass Victorino embarrass himself.

That loser better not blame this on his knee.