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Fman99 wrote: The Amstel commercial is the current winner of the "overplayed and super-irritating SNY advertisement." Didn't it just recently come back after not been played for a while...maybe it's played during the season... thumbsahemina...

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That's how you win! Beat up the starter then beat up the reliever. And make sure your own pitcher is doing some hitting.....Pelfrey!

Is Delgado on the DL or " day to day" and in a weeks time when he is still not right he then will go on the DL.

="soupcan":rv8zmkjz]I think its a craptastic column as well, but what did he write that's not true?[/quote:rv8zmkjz] I think the way that it was written is what's shitty about it , the mocking tone to it and so on... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 10:31 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 01 2009 10:36 AM ="metirish":ionzsggb]For those that have been to both CF and CBP which would you say is more impressive?[/quote:ionzsggb] Push. Same HOK/Populous design (wide concourses, retro-y touches). Aramark-run concessions with a soupcon of genuine local fare (i.e., their ice cream is Turkey Hill, their cheesesteaks are from two actual well-known local purveyors of same, Rick's Steaks/Tony Luke's). Their park isn't exactly set flush into a city block either-- it's in a Meadowlands-y complex at the south end of Broad St (right by the Eagles/Sixers/Flyers stuff). The club did seem to put a lot of attention into acknowledging its history (the restaurant is "Harry the K's," pictures abound, caps from EVERY era of Phillies-dom available at their New Era shop), so that might give the Bad Guys the slight overall edge. (Oh, and on a tangential, Paul Lukasesque note-- those cream-colored red-and-blue trimmed alternate home unis they brought out last year? Bee-YOO-tiful.) Edgy DC May 01 2009 10:33 AM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on May 01 2009 11:16 AM ="soupcan"]I think its a craptastic column as well, but what did he write that's not true? I'll bite. ]We love to hate each other, sure Speak for yourself, hatemonger. ]You probably saw most of it on TV since you didn't have much else to do after September. New Yorkers have plenty to do after September. A lot of them live in and around New York, you see. ]You remember all the pageantry that goes along with being a world champion, right? No? Well, maybe you have some faded pictures of 1986 in a shoebox somewhere. Yeah, or a Giants Super Bowl. ]This might be overstepping our relationship, but can we tell you something? You guys seem awfully haggard. It looks like you haven't slept much lately. Guess choking away two straight division titles will keep you up at night. Well, one, fans didn't choke away anything. Two, it's impossible to not sleep since last September. And that isn't "lately." ]It has to be brutal to be a Mets fan. The Fightin's got off to a typically slow start and still managed to finish the first month of the season with an 11-9 record. That's where they were at this point last year - two games over .500 - and we all know how 2008 worked out for the Phils. The contextualizing and rationalizing about the Phils doesn't support the thesis sentence. ]Meanwhile, the Mets enter the series having lost seven of their last 10. They're three games under .500 and looking sloppier every day. Oh, here's where he supports it. I guess he needs those paragraph breaks to keep the inches flowing. Um, life is not losing seven of ten all year every year for Met fans. ]Their season certainly hasn't gone over well with the New York media. Stories about the Mets are frequently peppered with words such as "pressure" and "anxiety" and "failure." And the headlines are even more vicious: True enough. People don't write shit in Phillie papers I guess. ]Things have gotten so ugly that David Wright has been openly booed at Citi Field. (A little advice: that kind of behavior is so unbecoming. You should try to be more like us - cool and calm and supportive.) Here he even knows he's full of shit. ]On top of all that, you're forced to pay outrageous prices to watch bad baseball at Citi Field Not forced to do anything. ]- the not-so-impressive new park that the team plunked down next to a shanty town of shabby auto body shops. It's not like that site was scouted. It's 35 feet from where Shea was. Really, is the Iron Triangle an issue to New York Met fans at all? At least bring up the planes from LaGuardia or something. ]Even visitors from Detroit would find that area crummy. Yeah, because a lot of tourists stroll around there, to the express embarassment of Met fans, who lay awake wishing they had a city free of blight like Philadelphia. It's all kinda sorta true is no excuse for douchecraft. soupcan May 01 2009 11:10 AM 'Douchecraft' - I like it. Nymr83 May 01 2009 11:33 AM ]On top of all that, you're forced to pay outrageous prices to watch bad baseball at Citi Field - the not-so-impressive new park that the team plunked down next to a shanty town of shabby auto body shops. Even visitors from Detroit would find that area crummy I got in Monday for $11, I sat in seats better than the entire upper deck at Shea, I was mostly impressed by the ballpark, and I'd rather have a shanty town than have the government using its eminent domain power to tear down businesses. And there are no "visitors from Detroit" to find the area crummy because the people who leave Detroit don't go back, making them "migrants from Detroit who chose the big apple over your crappy city" LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 11:46 AM ="soupcan"]'Douchecraft' - I like it. That baiting crap in ink With that peculiar stink Your payslip should be pink It's... douchecraft... metsguyinmichigan May 01 2009 11:51 AM I won't get to Citi until the first week in August, but I did get to a game at Cit Bank Park a couple years ago. We went to PNC in the same weekend, and I thought it was far better. We had a double header, so there was plenty of time to walk around and check it out. On the plus side, the giant bonging Liberty Bell is a nice touch. I found several statues, though the Robin Roberts one is a little strange. Greg Luzinski has a BBQ stand and was there to sign autographs and pose for photos. I found some neat mosaics of players and some other nice touches. On the negative side, there's no focal point to the thing when you drive up -- no "front door," if you will. It looked like a jumble of bricks and black steel piled in the middle of a parking lot. It's an ugly "building." Say what you want about Citi, but it's beautiful and orderly from the outside, with the brick arches. It looks like what it's supposed look like. soupcan May 01 2009 12:08 PM Dude...? Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 12:15 PM Time for pitchforks and torches. G-Fafif May 01 2009 12:17 PM Do sportswriters down there get fired for displaying too much professinalism? Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 12:21 PM Seems that way. I think they're instructed to pander to the fans' baser instincts. They have to sell papers, you know. metsguyinmichigan May 01 2009 12:45 PM ="soupcan"] Dude...? I know. Bastard Luzinski called on his minions to refuse to sell me a pulled pork sandwich or sign an autograph or pose with the photo until they slammed on my head what in hindsight appears to be a Phillies cap. I wasn't gonna do it, but the pulled pork smelled really good. Plus, I was undercover. Shhh. HahnSolo May 01 2009 12:46 PM ="G-Fafif":28rkd6zs]Do sportswriters down there get fired for displaying too much professinalism?[/quote:28rkd6zs] It is the city that made Stephen A. Smith "famous". And MGIM, wtf? Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 12:49 PM You sold your soul for pulled pork??? seawolf17 May 01 2009 12:56 PM Wait, WHAT? I'll get the roasting spit ready. You posted the picture yourself... the least you could have done was photoshopped that out. Bad mgim. Better or worse that Steve professing his love for the Yankees? I say worse. This is an actual rival. soupcan May 01 2009 12:58 PM WORSE! String him up! metsguyinmichigan May 01 2009 01:00 PM It was really, really good pulled pork. That, and I have a lot of caps. I usually wear the home team, if I have it, unless they're playing the Mets. The exception is the Yankees. So, um, what do you guys think about Jerry's decision to pinch-hit for Castro this week? I'm a little concerned about Wright's strikeouts. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 02:53 PM ="metsguyinmichigan"]It was really, really good pulled pork. That, and I have a lot of caps. I usually wear the home team, if I have it, unless they're playing the Mets. The exception is the Yankees. So, um, what do you guys think about Jerry's decision to pinch-hit for Castro this week? I'm a little concerned about Wright's strikeouts. "Usually wear... the..." WhatwhatWHAT? So you're not a traitor... you're a mercenary? (And a cheap one at that!) [Plus, MGIM, the pulled pork isn't soul-selling-great. Now, the Tony Luke's roast pork Italian (roast pork, sharp provolone, and sauteed broccoli rabe)... maybe.] Swan Swan H May 01 2009 02:55 PM I saw Tony Luke on a Food Network show. Phillies Lovin' Douchebag, with the emphasis on the 'bag. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 03:13 PM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on May 01 2009 03:17 PM ="Swan Swan H"]I saw Tony Luke on a Food Network show. Phillies Lovin' Douchebag, with the emphasis on the 'bag. Saw the same show... and have been to the mothership (went to school in Philly)... and hells yes, he is-- the entire place is plastered with starf*cking photos and the like, and both he and the rest of the management (mostly extended family) carry themselves with a pronounced "F*ck you-- buy something" charm. (The guy who owns Geno's-- of "English-only" fame-- is cut from the same cloth.) That said, the sandwiches are delectable. And there's a place around here on 9th near the Port Authority-- Shorty's, I think it's called-- that used to be a Tony Luke's demi-franchise, but had to change the name due to ownership issues; the sandwiches, though, are straight out of the TL playbook. (Also, good beer selection.) http://www.tonylukes.com/menu.htm The Schmitter-- also worth a stab (and, shortly thereafter, stabbing pains up and down your left arm). themetfairy May 01 2009 03:15 PM That thing probably has more calories than I eat in an entire day.... seawolf17 May 01 2009 06:56 PM Focus, people! Focus! His hat! Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 07:00 PM Like I said, pitchforks and torches. And pulled pork. He may be a Mets guy in Michigan, but when he's in Pennsylvania he's apparently a Phillies guy. metsguyinmichigan May 01 2009 07:03 PM No wait, that Schmitter looks pretty good. Do they sell those in the stadium? We went to Pats, the epicenter for all things cheesesteak, earlier in the day. Anybody ever go to Pat's? Oh, wait a second. Did you think that was me in the hat? No, no, I'm the guy in the sun glasses going hatless. There was a time when I kinda looked a little like Luzinski. People would pass me in the concourse saying, "Hey! Bull!" and "Bull, why are you wearing a Mets jacket, Mets socks and Mets crocks?" soupcan May 01 2009 08:37 PM LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 08:55 PM Yes, they do serve the Schmitter there. Also, we win. WOOT! Back to serious business... what shall be MGIM's penalty? There's got to be some sort of penance thing here, no? (And hat off to Soup. Nicely turned.) metsguyinmichigan May 01 2009 08:59 PM ="soupcan"] Bad ass! Edgy DC May 01 2009 09:37 PM I think I just realized that the Capital City Goofball is somehow descended from both Mr. Met and the Phanatic. Edgy DC May 01 2009 09:42 PM And by the by, I guess we're supposed to be all "in your face, phuckin' phils and phils phans!" and spoilin some shit, but the real enemum --- to Mets fans and Phils phans --- is this Gonzalez guy, whose allegiance to the Phils and contempt for the Mets is all bullshit, but he's collecting a check for stocking the flame. Number 6 May 01 2009 11:44 PM I honestly never knew that Phillies fans cared so much about the Mets, but they've certainly come out of the woodwork since the Series. I've never really given much of a damn about the Phillies, and their victory has only increased the damn-giving quotient slightly. Maybe I care a tiny bit now, but they'll suck again before long, and go back to being just another team. Personally, I'd rather this "rivalry" be defined by schmucks like this guy howling into a wind tunnel on one side, followed by disinterest at the other end, so I'll keep any further thoughts to myself. Benjamin Grimm May 02 2009 03:47 AM Yes, it's been a one-sided rivalry for a long time. I was surprised, when I moved to the Philly suburbs back in 1988, to find so much hatred for the Mets. Philadelphia also has a one-sided rivalry with the Eagles/Cowboys. And in both cases, they have no idea. People here are surprisingly provincial. metsguyinmichigan May 02 2009 07:57 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 02 2009 08:59 AM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Yes, they do serve the Schmitter there. Also, we win. WOOT! Back to serious business... what shall be MGIM's penalty? There's got to be some sort of penance thing here, no? (And hat off to Soup. Nicely turned.) I throw myself on the mercy of the Pool. When I was young and foolish, I was young and foolish. As a penance, I pledge to wear my Mets cap -- blue version -- to any and all sporting events and other functions that are appropriate. Plus, when we arrive at Citi Field in August, I'll bring the sidewalk chalk for Edgy's scheme. And I pledge not to be wooed into misbehavior by pulled pork sandwiches. Again. Benjamin Grimm May 02 2009 08:14 AM That's what we want to see. Remorse. Rotblatt May 02 2009 08:51 AM I have to say, their ballpark is really pleasant and very similar in layout to CitiField. The edge definitely goes to CF for me, though, partially because, as traitorinmichagan says, our facade and rotunda are just gorgeous. I was actually in Philly for the last game of the Series (campaigning for Obama), and got placed with two Phillies fans. They gave me a good-natured hard time, but were also gracious hosts, and invited me out to watch the game with them. Pretty crazy night, but fun (and yes, I rooted for the Phillies over the Rays--gotta root for the NL--but I wore my Cyclones hat). I did find myself thinking that the Mets team should have been there incognito, because I suspect watching a rival team's entire city turn out to celebrate victory would give them a little extra motivation. I know it made me pretty eager for a WS pennant . . . Ashie62 May 03 2009 08:20 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":sddeci55]Yes, it's been a one-sided rivalry for a long time. I was surprised, when I moved to the Philly suburbs back in 1988, to find so much hatred for the Mets. Philadelphia also has a one-sided rivalry with the Eagles/Cowboys. And in both cases, they have no idea. People here are surprisingly provincial.[/quote:sddeci55] Mets fans aren't..what about the MFY's Fman99 May 03 2009 08:40 AM I detest the Phillies and their fans. It took going to a Mets-Phils tilt at Shea in '07 just to see how obnoxious they were. SteveJRogers May 03 2009 08:44 AM ="Benjamin Grimm"]Yes, it's been a one-sided rivalry for a long time. I was surprised, when I moved to the Philly suburbs back in 1988, to find so much hatred for the Mets. Philadelphia also has a one-sided rivalry with the Eagles/Cowboys. And in both cases, they have no idea. People here are surprisingly provincial. I'm pretty sure the Dallas side got reved up during the halcyon days of the 1990s, probably still to this day. Dating back to Buddy Ryan supposedly putting bounties on several players, including Troy Aikman, all the way through Michael Irvin's career coming to an end on the Vet turf, and Philly fans cheering the injury. Benjamin Grimm May 03 2009 09:17 AM I've been to the Dallas area several times, and it appears that their rival there is the Redskins. I see all kinds of anti-Dallas Cowboys bumper stickers and stuff in the Philly area, but nothing at all about the Eagles in Texas. Benjamin Grimm May 03 2009 09:19 AM ="Fman99":e7xldmhk]I detest the Phillies and their fans. It took going to a Mets-Phils tilt at Shea in '07 just to see how obnoxious they were.[/quote:e7xldmhk] I was at a Mets-Phillies game in 2007 too. I'm not going to go back. It was such an ugly atmosphere I don't want to go there with my kids. (Carlos Gomez, I remember, injured himself and the fans were whooping and hollering with joy.) MFS62 May 03 2009 10:20 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":3mzmcfb5]I've been to the Dallas area several times, and it appears that their rival there is the Redskins. I see all kinds of anti-Dallas Cowboys bumper stickers and stuff in the Philly area, but nothing at all about the Eagles in Texas.[/quote:3mzmcfb5] Agree. I was on a business trip to Dallas a number of years back with an associate who was an avid Redskins fan. We went to a bar to watch a Redskins/ Cowboys Monday night game. The 'Skins were beating up on the 'Pokes that night, real bad - IIRC around 40-something to nil. As the game progressed, he was cheering louder and louder, the patrons were getting madder and madder and I was moving farther and farther away from him. I think the fact that he was a 6'3" 240 lb ex-Notre Dame football player was what may have saved his reckless hide. BTW - it appears that you only need two things to open a bar in Dallas - a liquor license and a full sized poster of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Back to the main point, the Eagles were never mentioned other than on game day during my many trips to Dallas. We now return you to the Philly talk. Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2009 01:24 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":rc5gkky6]="Fman99":rc5gkky6]I detest the Phillies and their fans. It took going to a Mets-Phils tilt at Shea in '07 just to see how obnoxious they were.[/quote:rc5gkky6] I was at a Mets-Phillies game in 2007 too. I'm not going to go back. It was such an ugly atmosphere I don't want to go there with my kids. (Carlos Gomez, I remember, injured himself and the fans were whooping and hollering with joy.)[/quote:rc5gkky6] There's a difference between actual Phils fans-- a loyal, pretty well-informed group-- and college kids/dropouts who need somewhere to drink between Flyer season and Eagle season (steadily increasing in number since 2004 or so, roughly coincident with the rise of Utley and Hamels and Howard). I went to yesterday's game via public transport sporting the usual complement of regalia (away Santana jersey, trad blue-and-orange hat), and ended up having a nice little chat with two Phils-cap-wearing strangers comparing the relative bench strengths of the '69 Mets and the '08 Phils. Thanks to a train delay, I got inside the game in the bottom of the first. I asked a group of twentysomethings in red if they knew how the Phils' runs scored, and got called a "New Jork (think bad imitation of a Hispanic accent) queer" by a leering dude in a "World Phucking Champions" tee for my trouble. There are some in every fanbase... the ugly ones are just as bad when they're wearing blue and orange camo. Fman99 May 03 2009 02:22 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":25pp1ahd]="Benjamin Grimm":25pp1ahd]="Fman99":25pp1ahd]I detest the Phillies and their fans. It took going to a Mets-Phils tilt at Shea in '07 just to see how obnoxious they were.[/quote:25pp1ahd] I was at a Mets-Phillies game in 2007 too. I'm not going to go back. It was such an ugly atmosphere I don't want to go there with my kids. (Carlos Gomez, I remember, injured himself and the fans were whooping and hollering with joy.)[/quote:25pp1ahd] There's a difference between actual Phils fans-- a loyal, pretty well-informed group-- and college kids/dropouts who need somewhere to drink between Flyer season and Eagle season (steadily increasing in number since 2004 or so, roughly coincident with the rise of Utley and Hamels and Howard). I went to yesterday's game via public transport sporting the usual complement of regalia (away Santana jersey, trad blue-and-orange hat), and ended up having a nice little chat with two Phils-cap-wearing strangers comparing the relative bench strengths of the '69 Mets and the '08 Phils. Thanks to a train delay, I got inside the game in the bottom of the first. I asked a group of twentysomethings in red if they knew how the Phils' runs scored, and got called a "New Jork (think bad imitation of a Hispanic accent) queer" by a leering dude in a "World Phucking Champions" tee for my trouble. There are some in every fanbase... the ugly ones are just as bad when they're wearing blue and orange camo.[/quote:25pp1ahd] I will admit, there were more thugs in Met gear that day in '07 than I've ever been around in any other Mets game. In addition to the brutes in red. People are animals. metsguyinmichigan May 03 2009 03:18 PM ="Fman99":1ib6d02i]People are animals.[/quote:1ib6d02i] But, if you pretend to be one of them by wearing the home cap when they're playing the Diamondbacks, they let you pose with their heroes and buy pulled pork. Or so I've heard. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2009 04:08 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":ers845mm]="Fman99":ers845mm]People are animals.[/quote:ers845mm] But, if you pretend to be one of them by wearing the home cap when they're playing the Diamondbacks, they let you pose with their heroes and buy pulled pork. Or so I've heard. [/quote:ers845mm] I actually sought out Luzinski twice-- once pre-game, once in-game-- to see if he'd take a picture with a guy in a Johan jersey. Swing-and-miss both times. Perhaps he had a derby party at the Murray house to attend. metsguyinmichigan May 03 2009 05:45 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]="metsguyinmichigan"]="Fman99"]People are animals. But, if you pretend to be one of them by wearing the home cap when they're playing the Diamondbacks, they let you pose with their heroes and buy pulled pork. Or so I've heard. I actually sought out Luzinski twice-- once pre-game, once in-game-- to see if he'd take a picture with a guy in a Johan jersey. Swing-and-miss both times. Perhaps he had a derby party at the Murray house to attend. Totally. And here's proof: I tried taking a photo of the race off the telvision, and I'm like, "Bull! Down in front!" And the thing is, he wasn't even a good houseguest. I'm like, "Greg, not for nothing, but I took a lot of heat from by friends this week for hanging with you. And all you bring to the party is a bag of chips that you got at the gas station on the way here? Not cool, Bull. We were hoping for some pulled pork." And he was like, "Whatever. Where are the julips?" And he made fun of my daughter's hat. My wife said I can't invite him next year. Frayed Knot May 03 2009 06:06 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":19k9poyd]="Benjamin Grimm":19k9poyd]="Fman99":19k9poyd]I detest the Phillies and their fans. It took going to a Mets-Phils tilt at Shea in '07 just to see how obnoxious they were.[/quote:19k9poyd] I was at a Mets-Phillies game in 2007 too. I'm not going to go back. It was such an ugly atmosphere I don't want to go there with my kids. (Carlos Gomez, I remember, injured himself and the fans were whooping and hollering with joy.)[/quote:19k9poyd] There's a difference between actual Phils fans-- a loyal, pretty well-informed group-- and college kids/dropouts who need somewhere to drink between Flyer season and Eagle season (steadily increasing in number since 2004 or so, roughly coincident with the rise of Utley and Hamels and Howard). I went to yesterday's game via public transport sporting the usual complement of regalia (away Santana jersey, trad blue-and-orange hat), and ended up having a nice little chat with two Phils-cap-wearing strangers comparing the relative bench strengths of the '69 Mets and the '08 Phils. Thanks to a train delay, I got inside the game in the bottom of the first. I asked a group of twentysomethings in red if they knew how the Phils' runs scored, and got called a "New Jork (think bad imitation of a Hispanic accent) queer" by a leering dude in a "World Phucking Champions" tee for my trouble. There are some in every fanbase... the ugly ones are just as bad when they're wearing blue and orange camo.[/quote:19k9poyd] I think the sports media in Philly tends to drive a lot of that kind of stuff. Even the worst of WFAN sounds like 'Masterpiece Theatre' compared to most of WIP. Encouraging callers whose sole point is to say 'Cowboys Suck' seems to be considered standard programming on some shows. I've always thought of Philly as more a football & hockey town as compared to baseball & hoops so maybe the macho attitude of those two sports help give the city its rep. The anti-Met thing I think it more just an extension of an overall anti-NYC bias that exists in a lot of places - just even moreso when your city is only 100 miles down the road. Perhaps the attitudes in Philly - like Boston in many ways - were formed way back by people who never got over NYC supplanting their towns as the dominant city on the eastern seaboard all those years ago. Kong76 May 03 2009 06:09 PM This was really funny ... seawolf17 May 03 2009 06:10 PM I've always loved Greg Luzinski -- my coach in baseball camp one year called me "Bull" because my power, speed, and remarkable ability to strike out reminded him of Luzinski.

For those that have been to both CF and CBP which would you say is more impressive?

What a worthless read that was.....one of the beat writers should knee him in the nuts...

I want him swinging the bat too , if Wright is asked to bunt there and fails then it raises a bunch of other questions , most of them silly in nature. I would never want or expect Piazza in his pomp to bunt or be asked too , I feel the same about Wright.

What kind of job would you say Neal Huntington has done so far? Looking at their 25 man roster I see quite a few of the players he got in his two big trades of Nady and Bay are there and playing.

Hilarious ] Roberts also details Rodriguez's obsession with teammate Derek Jeter. Players who accompanied A-Rod to clubs said his favorite pickup line was "Who's hotter, me or Derek Jeter?"

Why I was looking for pictures of Moyer is anyones guess , but I came across this.....some guys blog Tuesday, 01/24/06 I don't write about baseball much, but I'm a great admirer of 43-year-old Mariner pitcher Jamie Moyer. His ability to make hitters barely half his age look silly with the slowest average fastball in all of baseball is an athletic achievement so unusual that it provokes astonished laughter. His 21-win season in 2003 was beautifully automatic -- I'd make time to watch his games with a serene confidence that he'd figure out a way to prevail, serene confidence being a wholly foreign concept in baseball. His local philanthropy and total lack of observable assholery are just icing on the cake. I bring this up because, though Moyer is widely acknowledged to be an unusually old man for an active pitcher, it wasn't until I saw the 1933 King Kong last month that I realized just how old he really is. In the first scene after returning from Skull Island, Ann Darrow and Driscoll are being peppered with questions. You can't tell me the reporter standing between them isn't Jamie Moyer. Conservatively estimating that he was 35 when the movie was made, he is inescapably not 43 today, but 108 years old. IMDB does list a Ray Moyer for uncredited set design on King Kong, but he has no actor credits across his whole long career, while King Kong's entry is already stuffed with uncredited appearances. So, I'm sticking with my theory that Jamie is the oldest professional athlete in the history of the world. He'll still be pitching for the Mariners when the great Felix Hernandez starts leaving his teeth in a glass of water at night. http://bumppo.net/archives/2006/01/index.html

I'd do Halladay straight up for redding but that's it.

It's not Putz , I'm just contemplating Wright's strike outs and Gay Rods bitch tits.

Reads like Manuel is not that good at man management , look I don't feel bad here for Castro , he's had ample chances to stake a claim at the job full time but seems like he'd rather not . Having said that I would like to think that the only motive Manuel had was winning the game, but it seems not to be the case.

Is Wright even hitting a lot of fly balls? , seriously I don't even remember watching him and thinking that at least he tearing the cover of the ball but it's just not going out right now.

I stopped watching "The Sports Reporters" because his ears were so distracting .

="Edgy DC":1tu91gc1]I'm guessing he wasn't in the house.[/quote:1tu91gc1] Maybe he was hanging out in the bullpen.... batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2009 09:57 AM ="Edgy DC"]Regarding Wright, I was thinking the stadium eating up his flies to right center may be forcing him to adjust his swing, looking to drive the ball more and loft it less, but I don't know how much that would explain, looking like he is at belt-high fastballs over the outside half of the plate. I was also wondering whether it's the larger Citi Field dimensions that have Wright psyched out. I'm feeling marvelous right now. <-------------------------- If I was in charge of selecting those historical banners that hang in chronological order outside of Citi Field, I'd include that iconic image (above) of Throneberry lunging in vain for a bad infield throw that's destined to elude the first baseman. And those being the '62 Mets, Bob Gibson might've even scored on the play. That spectacular ineptitude is as integral to the franchise history as any Tom Seaver fastball. metirish Apr 30 2009 09:59 AM Is Wright even hitting a lot of fly balls? , seriously I don't even remember watching him and thinking that at least he tearing the cover of the ball but it's just not going out right now. G-Fafif Apr 30 2009 10:11 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] If I was in charge of selecting those historical banners that hang in chronological order outside of Citi Field, I'd include that iconic image (above) of Throneberry lunging in vain for a bad infield throw that's destined to elude the first baseman. And those being the '62 Mets, Bob Gibson might've even scored on the play. That spectacular ineptitude is as integral to the franchise history as any Tom Seaver fastball. Seconded. Honesty in iconography, at least in a context where the wounds aren't fresh and deep, would be appropriate. I'd draw the line, however, at highlighting something recent and hurtful. That would be like trying to sell a book to Mets fans by placing Yadier Molina's home run follow-through on the cover. That would just be stupid. Edgy DC Apr 30 2009 10:18 AM He was hitting flies in the first homestand. G-Fafif Apr 30 2009 10:20 AM Do pop flies count? batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2009 10:23 AM ="G-Fafif"]="batmagadanleadoff"] If I was in charge of selecting those historical banners that hang in chronological order outside of Citi Field, I'd include that iconic image (above) of Throneberry lunging in vain for a bad infield throw that's destined to elude the first baseman. And those being the '62 Mets, Bob Gibson might've even scored on the play. That spectacular ineptitude is as integral to the franchise history as any Tom Seaver fastball. Seconded. Honesty in iconography, at least in a context where the wounds aren't fresh and deep, would be appropriate. I'd draw the line, however, at highlighting something recent and hurtful. Yep. There goes Marv, doing what he does best. Or worst. If that image did adorn Citi Field and Marv was still with us, he might remark that "he still doesn't know why his banner hangs outside of the new stadium". ="G-Fafif"] That would be like trying to sell a book to Mets fans by placing Yadier Molina's home run follow-through on the cover. That would just be stupid. I read about your preference for Karl Ehrhardt and Collapse Guy as the cover to your book, and agreed with your thinking immediately. I suppose that your publisher thought that action shots of ballplayers would sell more books. But aesthetically, your idea was the smarter one. Frayed Knot Apr 30 2009 10:50 AM As mentioned above, the main difference so far is in strikeouts and power. The stadium could partially explain the power outage. I have no idea what to say about the Ks. Except that in his four full seasons in the majors to date Wright's hitting has been absurdly consistent in almost all aspects, including strike-outs where he's gone: 113, 113, 115, 118 See also doubles: 42, 42, 40, 42; HRs: 27, 26, 30, 33; OBA: .386, .381, .416, .390 Point being that, especially at age 26, I don't think he's a likely candidate to suddenly morph into a 200+ K/yr, slap-hitting drag on the lineup. We've got other things to worry about. OlerudOwned Apr 30 2009 12:56 PM I think he could offset some of that power-drag in Citi if he utilizes that handy knack for driving the ball the other way with power. But what do I know? Edgy DC Apr 30 2009 01:31 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 30 2009 01:55 PM That's the thing, though. He flies the other way with power more than anything. And those lofty flies used to land 5-12 feet behind the 371 sign and during the first homestand, they were hitting gloves on the warning track. OlerudOwned Apr 30 2009 01:46 PM Oh, alright then. I should preface most of my posts with "I haven't actually seen more than 4 of these games televised because of location, but..." Swan Swan H Apr 30 2009 07:00 PM Somebody find John Stearns, because the monster is coming out of the cage this weekend.

OMG

="Nymr83"]Wright is hitting .270 or so, if he needs a day off then by all means give it to him, but he is hardly hitting poorly enough to be forced to the bench for a few days A soft .270 wouldn't you say? , no extra base power at all so far.

="Nymr83":3rqhcden]="metirish":3rqhcden]Like anyone believed that he stopped using when he said he did....[/quote:3rqhcden] screw steroids, i want to know more about arod intentionally aiding the opposing team![/quote:3rqhcden] Yeah I'm still trying to figure that one out , but isn't that Rodriguez all over, trying to be popular in his own strange way.....when you think there is noting else with him he just gives more. Edgy DC Apr 30 2009 07:43 AM I see a nickname like that filling the stands in American League cities this summer. I hope she's got her story straight, because this could wreck him. HahnSolo Apr 30 2009 07:51 AM ="Nymr83"]]Other things alleged in Roberts' book, according to the Daily News: � A-Rod "pitch tipped" when he played for the Rangers by letting opponents at the plate know which pitch was coming in lopsided games. A-Rod expected players he helped would reciprocate when he was having an off night and needed to get his batting average up. i want names! If true, I don't know how he looks teammates (particularly pitchers) in the eyes ever again. In the locker room, I could see this as being a far more egregious sin than steroids. metsguyinmichigan Apr 30 2009 07:55 AM I thought 15 percent was a decent tip. Mendoza Line Apr 30 2009 08:07 AM ]A-Rod "pitch tipped" when he played for the Rangers by letting opponents at the plate know which pitch was coming in lopsided games. A-Rod expected players he helped would reciprocate when he was having an off night and needed to get his batting average up. How does a shortstop do this without anyone else on the team noticing? Nymr83 Apr 30 2009 08:07 AM ="metsguyinmichigan":14l0pzdh]I thought 15 percent was a decent tip.[/quote:14l0pzdh] not when you make 25 million a year it isnt. HahnSolo Apr 30 2009 09:28 AM ="Nymr83":1nh9sgj3]="metsguyinmichigan":1nh9sgj3]I thought 15 percent was a decent tip.[/quote:1nh9sgj3] not when you make 25 million a year it isnt.[/quote:1nh9sgj3] I will cut him some slack here. Just because some bimbo brings you buffalo wings and beer, you have to tip what...? 50%, 60%? Why should he tip more than Joe Schlabotnik at the next table for the same service? Nymr83 Apr 30 2009 09:31 AM Well he doesnt have to tip anything, but he's A-Rod, i'm sure his presence there is a big circus and i'll bet he gets treated better than the average customer does too. soupcan Apr 30 2009 09:34 AM ="HahnSolo":25t8z99n]="Nymr83":25t8z99n]="metsguyinmichigan":25t8z99n]I thought 15 percent was a decent tip.[/quote:25t8z99n] not when you make 25 million a year it isnt.[/quote:25t8z99n] I will cut him some slack here. Just because some bimbo brings you buffalo wings and beer, you have to tip what...? 50%, 60%? Why should he tip more than Joe Schlabotnik at the next table for the same service?[/quote:25t8z99n] Because he can. Because its a good investment in his image. And 50%-60% of a bill at Hooters is like shoeshine money to him. Part of the reason he is so famous is because of how much money he makes, ergo - lotsa people know how much money he makes and rightly or wrongly he gets scrutinized for his genorisity or lack thereof. You may bemoan the double-standard, but now his cheap ass is being called out. Ask him if the money he saved at Hooters by not over-tipping was worth the ridicule he's gonna get now. soupcan Apr 30 2009 09:36 AM Rodriguez hangs out shirtless in Central Park in 2006. Are these the infamous "Bitch Tits"? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 30 2009 10:21 AM ="metsguyinmichigan":41qd8d37]I thought 15 percent was a decent tip.[/quote:41qd8d37] Kinda sorta. 'Round these parts, it's bare minimum, for "not bad" service. If service has been good at all, 20 and up is customary these days. (Like my grandpa always said, if you don't have money to tip, you don't have money to eat out.) HahnSolo Apr 30 2009 10:27 AM A cynic consumer might say in reply: if you can't pay your servers a decent wage, then don't open a restaurant. The percentage thing never made sense to me. Do the same job at a Denny's or at the Four Seasons, but at one your tip might be $5 while at the other it's $50? But we're veering off course here: the tipping off of pitches seems like it should be getting far more attention here. batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2009 10:29 AM I'd grow bitch tits for $25M a year. metsguyinmichigan Apr 30 2009 10:30 AM Did ARod tipp off 15 percent of the batters or more? bmfc1 Apr 30 2009 10:33 AM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3qj28dvx]="metsguyinmichigan":3qj28dvx]I thought 15 percent was a decent tip.[/quote:3qj28dvx] (Like my grandpa always said, if you don't have money to tip, you don't have money to eat out.)[/quote:3qj28dvx] I like that very much. Your Grandpa sounds like a wise man. metirish May 01 2009 06:36 AM Hilarious ] Roberts also details Rodriguez's obsession with teammate Derek Jeter. Players who accompanied A-Rod to clubs said his favorite pickup line was "Who's hotter, me or Derek Jeter?" Edgy DC May 01 2009 07:19 AM Shit. The bastard stole my line. cooby May 05 2009 08:30 PM No question, Edgy, it's you!

Like anyone believed that he stopped using when he said he did....

I do wonder about sitting guys , when is the best time to do it. Manuel said before the season started that one thing he wanted to do this season was give Wright , Reyes and Beltran more days off . You don't sit a guy that's hot with the bat but when he's struggling is that a good time to sit him , some say that it's not good because they can't work it out on the bench . The player of course would want to play. Last season we had this with Delgado.

David is striking out at an alarming rate.....out looking two times today IIRC.

Dump Molly is the first thing I would have him do , he was a much better hitter when a virgin.

Rockin' Doc wrote: I think most of the team needs an assheadectomy. Most of the fans would likely benefit from a strong sedative, a narcotic analgesic and an opaque eye mask for sound sleeping. LOL...great answer....