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Vic Sage wrote: nah, that's my starting point... and the nickname of my cock. lol

I thought Vic would turn in to the Hebrew Hammer after a few?

HahnSolo wrote: Maybe Eddie can get the postgame Mets Extra back at least. Ed does all that just fine, but when he steps in to the pbp role to give Howie a blow he's just not that engaging.

It seems plausible , I guess until Einhorn can talk we will never know the truth(if then even), either way I loath the Wilpon's.

As a general rule I am not all that enamored about giving up a good young hitter for a pitcher, not even sure why.

Edgy DC wrote: Olberman tweets The Marlins signed Jose Reyes. The Angels signed Albert Pujols. The #Mets have just signed Chuck James (LHP, Braves, 06-08). Sigh. Kinda sorta should be beneath him. It's not like the move is that relevant. Even if Reyes signed, The Chuck Jameses of the world will be invited to camp, as they are by all teams every spring. Besides, who are you to sigh over the Mets? Get off the bandwagon. yeah and it's not just him , it's like a big ole laugh for these guys when the Mets sign someone, apparently the Mets should have signed Rick James...hahaha...at least they would sell tickets .......except of course he's dead....

wow, this bargain basement shopping is fun.

I would like it to be known that I was the first loser

@EdgyDC taking Olbermann to task on twitter, well done.

Brilliant

attgig wrote: I think they sign one of the guys for the cheap come early feb (or even late feb) with whatever dollars we have left. my vote would be for pudge or navarro. agree, although I think it will be early next year or even January.

Can't help but laugh

Alderson wasn't even aware of the loan until Monday, is that odd?, probably not. GM: Mets close to having investors in place Originally published: December 13, 2011 2:11 PM Updated: December 13, 2011 9:40 PM By DAVID LENNON david.lennon@newsday.com Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said Tuesday that the Mets expect to have a group of investors in place shortly after the start of 2012, and perhaps as early as January, which would mean a cash influx that could be worth eventually $200 million for the financially hurting franchise. Alderson's comments during the team's annual kids holiday party at Citi Field come on the heels of Monday's acknowledgment by the Mets of a recent bridge loan, which a source said was for $40 million. The loan comes on top of the $25 million the club already borrowed from Major League Baseball more than a year ago. A source said the funds for the bridge loan were secured by Bank of America. "I wasn't even aware of the [bridge] loan until [Monday]," Alderson said, "so it couldn't have had any impact on what I've done. On the other hand, I'm not surprised that with the losses that we sustained last year, they have to be funded somehow, and that's either with cash or debt, and I think a bridge loan makes perfect sense given the investments that are expected to close in January." Alderson was referring to the Mets' strategy of rounding up a group of about 10 investors, at roughly $20 million each, to sell a minority stake in the franchise. Principal owner Fred Wilpon, along with team president Saul Katz and COO Jeff Wilpon, have not provided any details of that process, other than to say it has been "going very well." Alderson was asked later in the day during an interview on Fox Business Network whether the Mets were financially sound. "Yes, I think with this infusion of cash together with the possibility, I think the strong likelihood in the next two or three months that there will be additional investors in Mets ownership, that we should be good to go over the next couple years," he said. The Mets have said they have seven potential investors who are being vetted by Major League Baseball. A source said the team has another six or seven prospects under consideration. The source also said the Mets need only three to meet the goal of 10 investors. The source, however, expects the transactions to close in February. The source said the $200 million from unit sales is earmarked to pay for 2011 and estimated 2012 losses. Jeff Wilpon made a brief appearance at the holiday party, but he did not comment on the recent loan or the pending sale of minority shares. In addition to the two loans, the Mets' ownership group also is facing a lawsuit from Irving Picard, the trustee for the victims of Bernard Madoff. Picard is trying to recover as much as $386 million. There is a jury hearing set for March 19. Alderson already has said that the Mets' 2012 payroll will not exceed $100 million, and could even be below that number, as the team keeps some cash in reserve for amateur signing bonuses later in the year. The Mets didn't make an offer to homegrown shortstop Jose Reyes, who earlier this month signed a six-year, $106-million contract with the Marlins. When asked if the sale of minority shares in the team would help him increase the payroll at some point, Alderson hedged. "I think eventually," he said, "but I wouldn't expect that an influx of capital in January or February would have a major impact on our payroll for 2012, at least going into the season." As for subsequent years, Alderson hinted in the past that the Mets' money problems will plague the team beyond this season, and he did not shy away from that Tuesday, despite a somewhat more optimistic spin. "Anytime there is debt, there's interest to be paid, which presumably is a cash requirement, so I guess theoretically there could be some impact on payroll," Alderson said. "But I really don't believe it will have any. Most teams have debt." With Steven Marcus

Great picture but where's the token white kid?

TransMonk wrote: � The possibility of players wearing microphones during games. Boo!!! � No offensive nicknames written on equipment. hate the mic idea, nothing, absolutely nothing interesting ever gets said when the players are wearing a mic, despite what FOX thinks.

I can't help but think of this when wondering what's going on in Fred's mind. I think that'his attitude and this may well take a few years to play out but hopefully he'll be forced to sell, hoping not more than two years.

Stay classy Derek Derek Jeter�s Dating Rituals; Yankee Star Reportedly Sends Girlfriends Home With Autographed Memorabilia Yankee star Derek Jeter is trending after a New York Post story revealed details about the shortstop's casual romantic flings. Apparently after sneaking dates into his apartment through the backdoor of Trump World Tower to avoid paparazzi, Jeter then sends his girlfriends home the next morning with a gift basket containing signed baseball memorabilia. The pattern came to light when one of the girlfriends got the same gift basket a second time. Jeter broke up with longtime girlfriend Minka Kelly this summer and has apparently been playing the field ever since. No comment from Jeter's reps. http://www.slate.com/blogs/trending/2011/12/13/derek_jeter_s_dating_rituals_yankee_star_reportedly_sends_girlfriends_home_with_autographed_memorabilia.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow Post story http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/jeter_booty_hauls_smU8lFebpsBGJXpyHoMKSN

Edgy DC wrote: David Wright's eyes just lit up. He's always hit Willis, hasn't he? Will Willis see the rotation? numbers Nice Numbers

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Is it Valadius who digs hitting pitchers? Valadius fellates Owings every chance he gets. I think his head would explode if the Mets signed him. He would qualify that with a " four years to late" remark now I think. Owings was the hitter he would deride Minaya for not getting.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm amazed that I was able to win this one year. I have no idea what either "meter" or "scansion" are. I don't think I've ever even heard the word ""scansion". I feel a whole lot better knowing that Grim never heard the word either.

I mentioned this on Greg's FB but no answer....... In talking about the trade Seaver got very emotional and talked about how Grant approached him and asked him if he was a communist , and in a disparaging way chided him for joining the Greenwich Country Club, or more likely that he was allowed to join. Was this all common knowledge?

Olbermann posted tonight about the Matthewson / Seaver "drop and drive" similarity that Costas mentioned. http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/2011/12/12/seaver-and-mathewson/

Brilliant TV.

Ceetar wrote: TransMonk wrote: It's time for the Wilpons to just admit defeat. well, they're clearly not doing that. They're not even going all-in, saying 'fuck it', keeping Reyes, and trying to turn it around fast and be profitable. It's almost like they're trying not to lose, which doesn't seem to bode well for the short term. They've cut payroll enough that they'll probably only lose like 50 mill this year if they have a similar record, and they can probably sustain that another 3-4 seasons at least. yeah and that's what fucking blows, these wankers would field a team capable of losing 90 games as long as they continued to own it.They will do what's in their interest rather than the franchise.

Mets, Struggling for Cash, Receive $40 Million Bank Loan By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and RICHARD SANDOMIR Published: December 12, 2011 The owners of the Mets, needing cash and unable to turn to Major League Baseball for more financial help, received a $40 million loan from a major bank in the past six weeks. The team described the arrangement as a �bridge loan,� meant to aid them as they try to raise money through the sale of minority stakes in the club. The loan marks the second time in a year that the Mets have received an infusion of cash. A year ago, the team�s owners, Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz, received a $25 million loan from Major League Baseball, but they have not been able to repay it. Meanwhile, Sandy Alderson, the club�s general manager, said last week that the organization had lost $70 million in 2011 alone. Earlier this year, the team�s owners appeared to have a plan to address their financial problems: selling a roughly $200 million stake in the team to the hedge fund tycoon David Einhorn. But after months of negotiations, the owners called off the deal in September, in part because they did not want to give Einhorn a path to becoming the team�s majority owner. At the time, Wilpon and Katz said that �ownership has provided additional capital to cover all 2011 losses and is moving forward with the necessary resources to continue to operate the franchise.� And the owners said they were confident they could easily raise the $200 million they needed by selling 10 minority shares in the team for $20 million each. The $200 million was going to be used, they said, to pay off debts to their banks and to Major League Baseball, and to finance team operations. The recent $40 million loan suggests that the effort to sell minority shares in the team was not generating the cash that the owners needed in the near term. The owners, through a spokesman, said the loan had been approved by Major League Baseball and the other banks to which they are already indebted. Bank of America was the source of the $40 million loan, according to a person with knowledge of the deal. The club earlier this month lost shortstop Jose Reyes, widely considered its best player, to the Miami Marlins, and its extremely modest player acquisitions in recent weeks suggest the team is not operating like a big-market, marquee team. The implications of the team�s latest outside financing are not easy to forecast. But two people with knowledge of the team�s finances said that if a full lineup of minority stake investors was not in place by next spring, and cash not in hand, Wilpon and Katz might have to confront the prospect of selling the team entirely. The men first had to face that possibility last December when they learned they were the target of $1 billion lawsuit brought by the trustee representing the victims of Bernard L. Madoff�s fraud. The trustee has accused the men of having turned a blind eye to the possibility that Madoff was a fraud while they enriched themselves with his steady, outsize investment returns. Wilpon and Katz are facing a jury trial this spring at which they could be forced to explain themselves, and their years of investing with Madoff. Their potential liability could be hundreds of millions of dollars. People familiar with the team�s situation have said the owners had firm commitments from at least seven investors interested in buying a small share of the team for $20 million apiece. Still, until all are sold, none of the investors have had to turn over cash. Vince Gennaro, a consultant to several major league teams, said that the $40 million loan �says to me that their finances continue to be tight, that there is a cash pinch.� He added: �The team underperformed, and this tides them over until they get their money. They need cash flow.� Now, Gennaro said, between the bridge loan and the $25 million owed to baseball, �the first $65 million has to go out the door� should the team sell an adequate number of shares in the team. Joseph Ravitch, a veteran sports banker who is a partner in the Raine Group, said the ability of the team�s owners to secure another $40 million in loans established that the team was still considered a valuable holding. But, Ravitch added, a bridge loan usually carries a high interest rate, and he said that they �don�t lack for clarity about their ability to recover the loan against an asset.�