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Name the baseball player who ate seven cheeseburgers during a famous 4th of July MLB game.
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We should take a poll. How likely is it that the 2020 season will be played to a conclusion without interruption? ... that in the end, the 2020 season will have to be canceled because of the pandemic? ... that the 2020 season will be completed, but with pandemic-related interruptions or stoppages. What do youse think will happen if one or two teams have to go into quarantine during the 2020 season? Will the whole league shut down for that quarantine, or just the teams in question? And if it's just the teams affected, do they forfeit their games while in quarantine, or will those games (as many as 2 weeks worth?) be rescheduled. This last option seems too disruptive and impractical to pull off. I guess if a main roster has to quarantine, the team probably brings up replacements en masse from the overall 60 man eligible roster. I thought of this and then came up with what I thought might be the answer as I was writing the post above. Today The Athletic ponders this question. What happens if one team has to shut down? Where will MLB draw the line? Excerpt: One team. That's all it would take. An outbreak of COVID-19 in just one clubhouse. It's the last thing anyone in baseball wants to spend much time fixating on right now, on the day teams finally return to the diamond to start refocusing on Opening Day. But it's a scenario this sport has no choice but to prepare for. What would happen if one team – only one – had to stop play and shut down for even a couple of weeks? That's the question I posed this week to medical experts and people inside the game. Take a deep breath, because the ramifications are enormous. What would happen to the schedule – not just for that team but for multiple teams? How would clubs be affected that were supposed to play that team? Who in Major League Baseball would have to make that decision to shut down a team? And most importantly, what would need to happen to force MLB to make it? The answer is probably a much smaller outbreak than you'd think. [***] In other words, Binney said, the threshold would be far lower than, say, 10 or 12 people on one club testing positive. Even four cases in a week, or three in five days, should sound alarms. And that would be especially troublesome if these were players who were known to have spent significant time together. Are we talking about a group of infielders? Players with lockers near each other? [***] Baseball officials know they'll be facing these types of decisions at a time when the virus is surging again in nearly every area they play in. [***] ... baseball will not be trying to play inside a bubble, like the NBA and NHL. It will lose sight of every player in between home games. It will depend on those same players not to visit bars, restaurants or even the local 7-Eleven on the road. So while it will be hard enough to pull this off in that NBA bubble, “MLB is playing much looser,” Binney said. “They're relying on the honor system.” https://theathletic.com/1907562/2020/07/03/stark-what-happens-if-one-team-has-to-shut-down-where-will-mlb-draw-the-line/https://theathletic.com/1907562/2020/07/03/stark-what-happens-if-one-team-has-to-shut-down-where-will-mlb-draw-the-line/
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=nymr83 post_id=39780 time=1593728035 user_id=54] This was also pre-Madoff. Couldn't the Wilpon's have just added 5 million to the payroll with deferring anything?
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Frayed Knot wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=39757 time=1593711920 user_id=68] Bobby Bonilla Day gets the fivethirtyeight treatment - with a video! Here's something to consider -- the Mets deferred the money owed Bonilla after the 1999 season to hold onto the $5.9M at stake and re-invest it in the team. The Mets then signedone of MLB's best and most sought after pitchers, Mike Hampton, who led the Mets to the 2000 World Series. When Hampton left via free agency, the Mets used their compensation draft pick for Hampton's deparure to select David Wright. So how bad did the Mets really do here? The Mets, of course, didn't sign Hampton, they traded for him, so any $$ savings weren't specifically tied to that.
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Bobby Bonilla Day gets the fivethirtyeight treatment - with a video! Here's something to consider -- the Mets deferred the money owed Bonilla after the 1999 season to hold onto the $5.9M at stake and re-invest it in the team. The Mets then signed one of MLB's best and most sought after pitchers, Mike Hampton, who led the Mets to the 2000 World Series. When Hampton left via free agency, the Mets used their compensation draft pick for Hampton's deparure to select David Wright. So how bad did the Mets really do here? The Bobby Bonilla Retirement Plan: Quit Baseball In 2001, Get Paid Until 2035 Bobby Bonilla hasn't played in a professional baseball game since 2001, yet on July 1 of this year, the New York Mets paid him $1.19 million. And they will every July 1 until 2035, as part of a deferred contract that the Mets negotiated with Bonilla after the 1999 season. Instead of paying him $5.9 million that year, the Mets would owe Bonilla almost $30 million over the course of the deferred contract. How'd that happen? Watch the video [linked below] to find out. https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/the-bobby-bonilla-retirement-plan-quit-baseball-in-2001-get-paid-until-2035/https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/the-bobby-bonilla-retirement-plan-quit-baseball-in-2001-get-paid-until-2035/
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I'll take Doc85 for the season but for just one game for all the marbles, I'll go with Pedro00.
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=LWFS post_id=39624 time=1593555134 user_id=84] I'm partial to Doc. But it's worth noting that Pedro was staring down the barrel of an absurd, inflated amount of offense nearly every time he took the mound.
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Do we know what happens in ensuing years? In a close contest I take the 19 year old I think Britton's asking only about those specific seasons.
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Who would you rather have? That's what Tim Britton, writing for The Athletic, ponders today. I never deep-dived this topic even though I'd thought of it. I just assumed that Pedro '00 was hands-down, better than Doc prime because that's what all the writers seemed to be saying. I just went along, acknowledging that Pedro hadda be out of this world to be better than Doc85. But Britton has some points to make in support of Doc's case. https://theathletic.com/1896878/2020/06/30/who-would-you-rather-have-1985-dwight-gooden-or-2000-pedro-martinez/https://theathletic.com/1896878/2020/06/30/who-would-you-rather-have-1985-dwight-gooden-or-2000-pedro-martinez/
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Frayed Knot wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=39548 time=1593464277 user_id=68] Overall #1 pick in '82 ... Well, yeah, that's how he got into this discussion: former #1 overalls who became Mets later in their careers.... And the Mets totally would have drafted Dunston had they the top pick, they admitted as much themselves.
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Overall #1 pick in '82, four picks ahead of Dwight Gooden.
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September 15, 1967 --- New TV sensation Yvonne Craig appears as a guest on The Merv Griffin Show in her Batgirl costume where the two poke fun at the perennially sad-sack New York Mets baseball team in this exchange: Craig: "So, Merv, their new manager, Gil Hodges, thinks he's going to mold the Mets into a winner!" Griffin: "Oh brother! Last season, Don Bosch was going to be the next Willie Mays!"
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I agree with LWFS over the overblown importance of Marlo Thomas. On the overrated scale, She was the Derek Jeter of television. I thought LWFS was referring to the anachronistic nature, rather than the qualitative rating of the Marlo Thomas pop culture reference, and by extension, the anachronistic nature of almost all of these pop culture references. If I'm right, I'll chime in that initially, I had the same pet peeve that I think LWFS is expressing. But I enjoy them anyways, and I've come to rationalize the thread title by explaining to myself that these aren't 2020 pop culture references, but rather, pop culture references that were documented in 2020. Also, it'd be hella impressive if LWFS really did read Madame Bovary this weekend, especially being that we're barely into Sunday. And for sure ... Batgirl > That Girl. [FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48750588128_1e0cc634bd_c.jpg[/FIMG]
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Mets over Miami right now on SNY, from 8/5/2019, as the Mets go over the .500 mark for the first time in a long while, speared by three 7th inning solo HR's (Davis, Conforto and the Polar Bear). Then, it's the shirt game, arguably the high point of last year's Mets season, as the Mets stage a dramatic walk-off rally to win their 14th out of 15 games.
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Everybody has their own take on the 2020 baseball season. MLB is back for a shortened season for one reason ... so owners can collect the TV cash By Bob Raissman New York Daily News | Jun 27, 2020 at 8:00 AM It's the October pot of TV gold that motivates the Lords of Larceny, and their arrogant commissioner, to put financial interests ahead of player safety. If MLB's TV bagmen, aka Fox, Turner Sports, ESPN, were not delivering billions of dollars for rights to air playoff games and the World Series, it would have been easy to do the right thing and shut baseball down this season. It would have been easy to protect players who now, if the joke-of-a-sixty-game-season ever starts, will be performing in dangerous conditions, on and off the field, with coronavirus running rampant and no end in sight for the pandemic. But there are billions of TV dollars available. The money is more important to the owners and MLB than keeping a player off a ventilator. Without the October cash windfall, there is no motivating force for the owners and Manfred. With no ticket revenue, and local TV/radio rights fees being severely slashed, the postseason TV money appears to be worth the risk of death itself. Manfred showed he is singularly motivated by large green when he once referred to the symbol of baseball greatness, the World Series Trophy, as a “piece of metal.” And to keep overall costs way down this season, most owners don't even want to get to the Fall Classic. They would rather just glom their share of the TV pie and watch the World Series on television. This is reality. Don't expect to hear much about it if the season does ever start. Whimsical columnists are already busy celebrating the return of the game and its positive influence on Their America. They will have no time to emphasize the multiple dangers of playing in the middle of a killer virus outbreak and who is responsible for putting players at risk. Inside the Valley of the Stupid, Gasbags are already busy feeding the machine with important stuff — like which team's pitching staff is better equipped to navigate a 60-game season. If the season does start, look for the voices to ignore why the games are really being played. They will be too busy hyping the virtues of a 60-game season being an “every game counts” scenario. Got to juice those ratings. Will the play-by-play mouths and analysts even extensively report on the next player to go on the IL with coronavirus? And who is really responsible for him being there? There has been some consternation from TV outlets over players not agreeing to wear a mike this season (if there is one). It's not a big deal. With networks using their usual field microphones and no noisy fans in either Yankee Stadium or Citi Field, sounds of players spontaneous yakking will still be picked up live. If team voices are allowed to broadcast on-site from their regular booth, it will be interesting to see if the radio broadcast seeps into the TV play-by-play. Think about it. John (Pa Pinstripe) Sterling and YES' Michael Kay being heard simultaneously. What a treat. One we're sure the players will be thrilled about if their able to hear the voices too. https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/ny-mlb-rob-manfred-tv-money-20200627-ny42p5fbjbgrvdyrsqwuokezii-story.htmlhttps://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/ny-mlb-rob-manfred-tv-money-20200627-ny42p5fbjbgrvdyrsqwuokezii-story.html
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Right now on SNY, in progress, the 2013 All Star Game from Citi Field. At 3:00PM, Polar Bear Pete Alonso wins the 2019 HR Derby. Then at 5:30, it's a trip through the way way back machine to the Polo Grounds where Marvelous Marv misses first base, and then second base on his way to what Marv thought would be a triple.
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Jeez, that looks like aluminum siding. Which is a not good thing for a major league baseball stadium.
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Watch Carlos Delgado go deep twice as the 2006 Mets, that season's best team, lose to the Cardinals in game two of the 2006 NLCS, airing right now.
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Benjamin Grimm wrote: The runner-on-second-base thing is known, I've just learned, as the "international tiebreaker". It's going to be a strange and nutty season, as The Athletic notes. And in so noting, reminds us that under the exta-inning, runner on second rule, a team could pitch a perfect game and lose. Because it hsappened. Don't believe me? Those Tampa Tarpons, of the Florida State League, could tell you all about it. Those Tarpons took a perfect game into extra innings back in 2018. Alas, those extra innings began with a runner on second. What happened after that kind of messes up the story, since they then committed an error, and the winning run later scored on a fielder's choice/groundout. But that game is a reminder that something like this totally could happen: Nine perfect innings … 10th inning starts with a man on second … wild pitch … sacrifice fly … Voila! Team allowing no hits, walks, errors or HBPs still loses. There are several variations on this theme — but all 100 percent plausible. Read about all the possible strange and nutty scenarios lurking in what will surely be a strange and nutty 2020 baseball season. https://theathletic.com/1891802/2020/06/25/stark-welcome-to-the-strangest-season-ever/https://theathletic.com/1891802/2020/06/25/stark-welcome-to-the-strangest-season-ever/
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=39261 time=1593024732 user_id=68] We should take a poll. How likely is it that the 2020 season will be played to a conclusion without interruption? ... that in the end, the 2020 season will have to be canceled because of the pandemic? ... that the 2020 season will be completed, but with pandemic-related interruptions or stoppages.
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=Ceetar post_id=39292 time=1593057284 user_id=102] But what about the idea that teams are potentially already planning to bring fans back this year? Is that revenue important? If they're bringing fans back this year, why would anyone lose money next year, which would presumably be completely normal?
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=39262 time=1593024831 user_id=68] 60 games. That's no more than 12 or 13 starting pitcher starts. deGrom wasn't even in the running for the last two Cys after his first 12 or 13 starts.
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60 games. That's no more than 12 or 13 starting pitcher starts. deGrom wasn't even in the running for the last two Cys after his first 12 or 13 starts.
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We should take a poll. How likely is it that the 2020 season will be played to a conclusion without interruption? ... that in the end, the 2020 season will have to be canceled because of the pandemic? ... that the 2020 season will be completed, but with pandemic-related interruptions or stoppages.
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=39255 time=1593018835 user_id=68] Never knew that Sinatra had a high school named after him. He also had a huge cock, according to Ava Gardner.

