Carl Hubbell's lifetime Giants wins aren't the franchise record because the Giants would move to SF? As I said, of course they are, because they are a franchise record, not a moment in time, where he could have been more specific. I can see how it was the most important moment in that franchise's history, but the way he wrote it just didn't look right. A New York Giant hit the home run, not one from San Francisco. If he had just labelled it "Giants" it would have been ok for me. My life as a business consultant was spent answering questions from executives asking "What's wrong with this picture?" and then telling them how to fix their operational problems. When I see something that doesn't appear correct, I still do that. Sorry if that bothered you. I'm not bothered. I just still don't agree, and honest to god, I still don't even understand you. All of Carl Hubbell's Giants wins came while the Giants were in NY. There's no asterisk next to Juan Marichal's name on that list and there's no separate category declaring Marichal as the all-time leader of the Giants San Francisco pitching wins. The same with Thomson's cWPA even though that's a single game or single event record. But this works with single games, too. The Giants single game record for most strikeouts by a pitcher is 16 by Christy Mathewson, 1904. It's a franchise record, same as Thomson's cWPA, even though the Giants would move to SF after Mathewson's days. Whatever. Hey? But wasn't that a fun article?. I mean, for example, I didn't know anytihing about Tommy Davis's 1962 HR. And Davis would get traded to the Mets, too. He even picked up votes for MVP. As a Met!