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Morgan also ranks 11th on the all-time stolen bases list. He was the second best base stealer of his generation, something very often overlooked or forgotten because Morgan's career almost perfectly coincided with that of Lou Brock's. Morgan's career success rate stealing bases was 80%, so he was rarely thrown out trying to steal a base. This is not to rub it in, but just to point out how flawless Morgan's game was. He did it all and we was great at it.
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He'll probably get more money than you ever thought he would get a month ago because that's what always happens. Pretty much every year, baseball salaries increase - shockingly so.
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Edgy MD wrote: I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is half prepared. I implore you to reconsider this tack of engagement. You're right. He lowered the bar when he said "your speed" and I responded. I shouldn't have done that. Later You can't even get the chronology right.
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The Hot Corner wrote: At this point in the off-season, losing Loup is a bigger blow to the Mets than losing Syndergaard, imho. I feel the same way.
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It's hard to say because there's so much we don't know, but me personally, I'm seeing something that might be a not-so-random pattern here where the Mets are falling short in the FA market. Springer, Realmuto, Bauer, Synergaard and today Loup. Yeah, I know all about Bauer but nobody knew how vile and disastrous Bauer's 2021 season was gonna turn out before he signed with LA. This could be nothing but coincidence. Or maybe Cohen has some superduper rich man's complex about not wanting to be taken advantage of financially so he overcompensates by sticking to underwhelming offers that won't close deals. What's he supposed to do, though? He's operating in an extremely sophisticated market and can't keep it a secret that he's one of the world's two or three dozen wealthiest persons.
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Begging for a QO, if that's what Syndergaard truly did, is probably part of "looking out for himself". With a QO attached to him, teams that were truly interested in signing Syndergaard had to compete against the QO itself. So Syndergaard was looking out for himself, maneuvering and employing tactics to get the highest possible contract. And the Mets are better off having QO'd Syndergaard as opposed to not QO'ing Syndergaard at all, as they'll now receive a compensatory draft pick for losing out on one of their own Qo'd players. So what's the beef? Blame the Mets if the Mets secretly or internally wanted Syndergaard and were willing to match or top the Angels offer.
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Begging for a QO, if that's what Syndergaard truly did, is probably part of "looking out for himself". With a QO attached to him, teams that were truly interested in signing Syndergaard had to compete against the QO itself. So Syndergaard was looking out for himself, maneuvering and employing tactics to get the highest possible contract. And the Mets are better off having QO'd Syndergaard as opposed to not QO'ing Syndergaard at all, as they'll now receive a compensatory draft pick for losing out on one of their own Qo'd players. So what's the beef?
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Oh. Maybe you need something more analogous, closer to home, your speed. So let's limit the criteria once again. Dave Kingman was a better baseball player than Jeff Kent was because Kingman hit more HR's than Kent did.
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Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, but I think it should go without saying that we should vote for the criteria we believe in, rather than the criteria we think Joe Morgan believed in. Or to use criteria that would piss Barry Bonds off. Throughout the history of hall of fame voting, voters have voted based on their own criteria. For example - What about all the players who didn't receive a vote because some voters felt a player shouldn't make it on their first year of eligibility? Since this is a fun place and a totally hypothetical thread (none of have a vote, do they?) I decided to have fun with it. When you said "I think it should go without saying" in your post, you were using personalized criteria, weren't you? Allow us to do that , too. Now I know you are going to parse this for one of your classic picayune retorts. And I don't give a fuck. And batmag's response to mine is just too plain stupid for an intelligent response. Later Really? I thought I was responding to a stupid post. And then another even stupider post.
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=MFS62 post_id=81588 time=1637625445 user_id=60] Depends on how you measure. And I explained my criteria. Jeff Kent: .290-377-1522 Joe Morgan .271-268-1133 Looking at the all around game, of course Morgan was better. But when you limit the criteria, comparisons can be made. And if the vote had been taken , say, 20 years ago(before analytics) many voters might have put Kent before Morgan. Later
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Loup was insulted at not winning the Schaefer Reliever of the Year Award. And so he left town.
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Since Morgan has said he doesn't believe in Analytics, I used old fashioned "counting stats" Morgan would understand to support my vote. I hoisted him by his own petard. And, the second part of my reason is equally important to me - it would really piss off Barry Bonds if Kent got in and he didn't. https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/kents-relationship-bonds-we-werent-friendshttps://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/kents-relationship-bonds-we-werent-friends Later I wasn't addressing whether or not Kent deserves to be enshrined. I was only responding to your "superior" line. Still, voting for Kent based on old-fashioned pre-SABR stats just because Morgan was SABR illiterate makes zero sense.
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=81576 time=1637619795 user_id=68] =MFS62 post_id=81572 time=1637616722 user_id=60] My votes go to: ... Kent - Superior (.290-377-1522) to Joe Morgan (.271-268-1133) and it would piss off Barry Bonds
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=MFS62 post_id=81572 time=1637616722 user_id=60] My votes go to: ... Kent - Superior (.290-377-1522) to Joe Morgan (.271-268-1133) and it would piss off Barry Bonds
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=81549 time=1637602791 user_id=68] Capped off his best season as a Met, 2016, by starting the one and done Wild Card game that the Mets lost to the Giants, pitching seven innings of shutout ball and striking out 10. [media=youtube]WZPT0w9hH1o[/media] [media=youtube]IjN9dpGzWuY[/media]
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Capped off his best season as a Met, 2016, by starting the one and done Wild Card game that the Mets lost to the Giants, pitching seven innings of shutout ball and striking out 10. [media=youtube]WZPT0w9hH1o[/media] [media=youtube]IjN9dpGzWuY[/media]
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