Frayed Knot wrote: Look folks, as much fun as it is to lump this all on Torre I think it's pretty clear that he's being used here as the pr guy. Selig's office probably said to itself; "Hey, we really suck at pr, but we also got Torre here on the payroll and he's from New York and everyone there likes him, so if anyone can smooth this mess over it'll be old Joe". Probably went down that way. Its the kind of thinking that all New York baseball fans hold hands and sing Kumbaya. It is the same kind of thinking that gave us a Brooklyn rotunda in the Mets ballpark. But that doesn't mean that Torre didn't relish the chance to stick it to the Mets, who once fired him. Yankee pinstripes don't fade easily. He's still JT,FS in my book. Later