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Gwreck wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Good point. Okay, maybe just a roster spot = Who would you leave off? In Pedro's spot in the roster

Detroit continues to lead 7-4 in the 7th Sox 1-0 in the 4th 3-1 Braves in the 7th and 5-0 Brewers in the 4th.

Good point. Okay, maybe just a roster spot =

Gwreck wrote: The only TBS game is the potential one-game playoff, Cardinals at Houston, which would be Tuesday. Don't they start getting regular postseason games or is that in 2007 that the package starts?

Just saw this on UMDB: ]He also hurt the New York sports scene by keeping the Jets from playing at Shea Stadium in September every year. This served as the initial step in the Jets' eventual move to New Jersey. If the Jets don't get their own stadium in New York and wind up relocating to another city, don't blame their owner. It would be a result of the egotism of M. Donald Grant. I just responded with: ]I'm sorry, but how does not playing home games at Shea during the first 4 weeks of the year hurt the Jets? Doesn't that usually happen for teams like the Dolphins and Cardinals (since the move to Arizona) Did other teams have the same arrangements? Give that evidence before shooting off that Grant's not letting the Jets start their seasons at home was a reason for a lousy season or whatever. Blame M. Donald Grant for alot of things, but thats pretty unfair, and petty to blame him for the Jets poor records because they had to wait untill the Mets were done to play a home game. Besides, it was under Wilpon-Doubleday that the Jets finally left, and it had more to do with not refurbishing a nearly 20 year-old stadium to accomidate the increasing fandom of pro-football. Not to mention Shea's bathroom situation. Am I being off base here? I mean it does seem a bit harsh, and off base to say Grant hurt the Jets franchise by having them flee to the Meadowlands (and it has always been a cop-out by Jet fans, just as it is for MFY fans to blame the stadium for their problems)

I'd rather hold El Duque back for a week from Monday at Shea rather than bring him back in Game 4 though

Also Game 1 of our series is on ESPN (And simulcasted on CW 11 (aka WPIX aka WB11) here in NY) and on FOX Thursday night. Thankfully so far NOT on TBS! Speaking of which, the TBS announcers aren't going to be Braves announcers are they? Pete, Skip and Don all have their October off right? Boy that would be fun to watch if the Braves actually made it. Brave postseason games on their network sans their announcers!

Wonder if this will earn Perez a DS roster slot and perhaps a Game 4 start?

Tigers up 6-4 in the 6th against KC White Sox lead 1-0 in the 2nd against Minny

ScarletKnight41 wrote: Atlanta is still up 3-0 in the 5th. Milwaukee leads St. Louis 3-0 in the first. Not sure what to root for. Do I root for chaos (and the possiblity of me making it to Shea for the first round) or do I root for the Cards to make it in.

ScarletKnight41 wrote: You can think of it as ego or you can think of it as wanting to be a part of the postseason after working with this team for 17 years. Either way, it isn't a story. But its not like he hasn't done postseason games and WS games, and he is slated to be a big part of SNY's pre and post game coverage of EVERY game, including being in the ballpark for all games (I think YES has kept Kay in the Stamford studios for postseason coverage)

1986 108-54 .667 1st NLEast, NL Champs, World Champs 1969 100-62 .617 1st NLEast, NL Champs, World Champs 1988 100-60 .625 1st NLEast 1985 98-64 .605 2nd NLEast 2006 97-65 .599 1st NLEast 1999 97-66 .595 2nd NLEast, NL Wild Card 5th best regular season in team history! WHOO HOO! (Playing in a game 163 slides the 99 squad down obviously)

Edgy DC wrote: And Steve's incorrect. Bob Murphy was ill and in bad voice during part of the 1986 post-season and Ralph Kiner filled in for him. There was no "stunt" then and there likely isn't now. That I didn't recall, (me being 9 and not listening to the games on the radio and all) but since it was Kiner pinch-hitting for Murph, there is a difference. ]The Mets didn't need the back end of their stellar rotation in 1986, so Sid Fernandez and Rick Aguilera went into the bullpen and Doug Sisk and Randy Niemann dealt with it. It's getting good men to do a good job. The FAN broadcasters have far less to deal with and I imagine they don't see a problem. That doesn't seem like a great analogy at all. Sisk and Niemann weren't being dropped from the roster so Sid and Augilera would go to the pen. They were all part of the same 24 (I think it was still 24 that year) man roster on 8/31/1986 so it was just moving deck chairs around I know Rose and McCarthy aren't going to NOT do the games, but this is like if Russo and Francesa liking their time in the booth back in June so much that they decided to do a game this October. You can't say this isn't about Gary Cohen's ego getting in the way, granted its small potatoes compared to whats going on on-the field, but its still a story

ScarletKnight41 wrote: Cliff hobbles home on LoDuca's single. 6-0. Ramon Martinez is out of the game - Billy Traber comes in. For a second there I thought that really was Pedro's brother you were talking about and I was "HE'S still around?"

Uh boss, I need to get my ass to Shea because the only other time the Mets are playing is when I have two classes at night... What do you mean don't come back Thursday? (GULP!) Sure he'd be fine with it, but on late notice...hmmmm... I may have a problemo!

Okay, this forum doesn't give 2 rips about memorabillia except to put in spokes of bikes, and the behind the scenes intrigue of broadcasting. FWIW Ralph Kiner never pulled such a stunt during the Mets postseason runs of 1986 and 1988. And he'd had been away from the radio booth for 4 years at by 1986! (Yes I know he was part of the 1969 and 1973 coverage but still)

Raissman apparantly has alot of problems with Cohen doing some time in the booth ]Gary Groan Cohen's push for playoff radio time is lame Gary Cohen will work two innings (one doing play-by-play, the other as an "analyst) of every Mets postseason game on the radio. Why? And who pushed to have Cohen, the TV voice of the Mets on SportsNet New York, wet his beak in the WFAN Mets radio playoff booth? Shea spies say it was Cohen himself who lobbied to return to the booth he resided in for 17 seasons. An SNY spokesman refutes that notion, saying it was network boss Jon Litner who came up with the idea. It really does not matter who pushed for Cohen to work the fifth and sixth innings of every playoff game with either Howie Rose or Tom McCarthy. This is a bad idea. It's gratuitous big-timing at its worst. Think about it: Cohen, who once told me he had no interest in ever doing TV, nevertheless took a marquee job as SNY's play-by-play voice. Not only is he making more money than he did on the radio, but is receiving tremendous exposure as well. Obviously all that exposure is not enough. Nor is all the air time Cohen will get working on SNY's pre- and postgame playoff shows. For reasons known only to Cohen, Litner and head FANdroid Mark Chernoff, it has become essential for Cohen to take some of the playoff spotlight away from Rose, McCarthy and Ed Coleman. Never mind that these voices have worked an entire season on the radio. Never mind that they have more than earned the right to reap the reward of having the playoff booth - and every inning of the playoffs - to themselves. That's a minor detail when the suits decide to bring in their idea of a "star," making Rose, McCarthy and Coleman all look like ham-and-eggers. Yes, all of a sudden, these three experienced radio guys desperately need Cohen returning to his radio home to show them a thing or two? Yeah, Cohen is coming in to work a couple of innings to make the radio playoff coverage complete. To make it special. That's the gaga spin being sold by FAN and SNY suits. It's total baloney. Cohen has made his well-earned reputation as a pure baseball guy. For him, the game has always come first. By agreeing to glom radio time, Cohen is putting himself above the game, and above his fellow announcers. The way this has been presented, it's not just "listen to Mets playoff baseball on WFAN," it's "listen to Mets playoff baseball with the extra added attraction of the one and only Gary Cohen." How do you think Cohen would've felt if someone flew into his radio coop to work the 2000 Subway Series? Last month, when asked how he would feel about not doing playoff play-by-play, Cohen said it was something he was "aware" of when he signed with SNY. "What I'll try to do is enjoy my role in SNY's (pre- and postgame) coverage and be as big a part of that as I can," Cohen said in September. Guess that TV "part" is just not big enough. Gotta agree with Raissman (as well as Mike and Chris) Like I said, this isn't bringing in a legend who missed out on calling a postseason because of retirement. I admit I was wrong on the Albert 1994 run, but this really does smack of a guy getting "Buyers Remorse" about not being involved in the P-B-P of postseason games.

Edgy DC wrote: I think that's a closer analysis than cleon deserves. Fair, but I've heard that analysis be brought up by Yankee fans who really do think that any NY team should be constructed that way because of the high payroll amounts they have

Somewhere Michael Kay and Joey Salvia (Michael Kay's board op and the biggest Andy Pettitte fan around, so much he made parodies of "Mandy" in honor of him) are sobbing "WHY ROGER? WHY ANDY?"

Zvon wrote: ="cleonjones11"] ...money seems to be any object gimme afew mins to decipher this I believe he thinks the Mets have suddenly become the Yankees. Sure, lets have 8 All Star regulars (including, eh 5 future HOFers) with all borderline All Star (i.e. a team's lone rep) or major league starters as the bench. 5 starting pitchers, all of whom would be #1 or #2 starters on any team and have our future HOF closer (one of the very few) to be backed up by only those with big time closing experiences. And your payroll comes out to... $300,000,000.00

Edgy DC wrote: Bet? Ten buckers? For a troll he isn't big on backing up his statements with more statements. Even in RLF material he's a Post & Runner

I'd still do it. If nothing else it was akin to a Piazza/Hernandez type of move that shaked up the culture around Shea. Something that was lacking in the 2004 Mets (well before a certain Anna B showed up)

So TH is on the bench all of next year?.

metirish wrote: Better pen versus better offence....Maddux or Peavey...I'll take LA. Yeah, you have to take in consideration that Peavy was legit hurt last year and that won't happen this year

I wanted the Braves to win tonight. Makes alot of people rest easy tomorrow, specifically the SF Giants and ESPN who probably would want to broadcast that game in St Louis. Ah what the hell, this actually COULD be the final Mets-Yankees-Braves TH (I'm guessing Phillies take their rightfull place next year)