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I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium.

That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie?

="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM ="G-Fafif":3zka4awh]="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i]="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw]="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

="batmagadanleadoff":2kvq7ghb]But do you know how many times each game was shown?[/quote:2kvq7ghb] Almost all of them have been shown too much to truly surprise, but on the other hand, a Mets win can't be shown nearly enough. When you can't be specific, at least be zen. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:12 PM I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:16 PM Here's a Mets Classic. Tom Seaver and Pete Rose on the Mike Douglas Show in 1977. Seaver starts talking about the trade about 4:00 Carrie Fisher stares at Seaver's crotch about 5:00. Mike Douglas is a sexist around 7:10. Rose is a jerk pretty much from 0:00. What's with the sherriff's badge pendant? Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:18 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":mqoaopu1]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:mqoaopu1] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:19 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM ="G-Fafif":3zka4awh]="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i]="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw]="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

And/or watch a lot of TV.

Dave O'Brien not being Gary Cohen calling Marlon Anderson is always a disappointment when it's on. I counted recently and came up with 41 different Mets Classics/UltiMET Classics that have run in the course of SNY history. Nine were the '86 division clincher and eight postseason wins from that year; four were the '69 Series wins. Those seem to have been removed from circulation. Likewise the three '06 NLDS games. That's 16, leaving 25 games that seem to rotate, 14 of them pre-Snigh. 1986: The Padres game that ends on the 8-2-5 DP. 1988: Division clincher 1991: Darryl's return with Dodgers; Cone's 19-K game 1997: Mlicki shuts out MFYs 1998: Piazza's first game 1999: Matt Franco game; Ventura first game Grand Slam doubleheader; Leiter two-hitter to clinch Wild Card 2000: Benny hits grand slam in Tokyo; Ten-running inning 2001: Post-9/11 game 2005: Marlon Anderson game; Mister Koo game Eleven from the SNY era: 2006: Pedro's 200th win; Brian Bannister/Barry Bonds [played to death in a way the others haven't been, even the ones that have been played as much -- it seems to have been retired finally]; Wright beats Mariano; Beltran 16th inning HR [which I don't recall seeing since 2006]; Beltran walkoff vs. Cardinals; division clincher 2007: Endy bunt to beat Rockies; Five-run ninth to beat Cubs; Delgado walkoff following Armando balks 2008: Tatis walkoff from May; Johan three-hit masterpiece from Setpember ETA Mets Classics that occurred to me after the fact: Ventura, Koo, Leiter

The All-Star third baseman added puppies, daffodils and Stan Musial are all right by him, too.

Has anyone ever noticed whether the Apple rose on Met Inside-the-Park HRs? Or was the Apple operator too overcome with shock to get the fruit up in the air? FYI, the following ITPHRs were hit at Shea in the Apple Era: Wally Backman, 7/31/82 Mark Bradley, 8/31/83 Darryl Strawberry, 5/3/89 Marlon Anderson, 6/11/05 Jose Reyes, 9/7/06

]I'd hate to see Beltran and whoever is in RF get crushed by the apple. ]The apple won't be rising while the Mets are in the field. It's the opposing outfielders who have to fear the apple! Beltran, Don't Fear The Apple...

="Gwreck":bglynpwb]you'll see that the Mets have renamed the "Excelsior Level" the "Caesar's Level."[/quote:bglynpwb] Will the games be renamed Bread And Circuses? Speaking of renaming, I haven't been able to find any trace of "Coogan's Landing" on the official seating chart or anywhere in the various propaganda save for the original unupdated fact sheet. I guess that one sop to NY Giants history has been quietly yet effectively disappeared. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 09:59 AM ]I'd hate to see Beltran and whoever is in RF get crushed by the apple. ]The apple won't be rising while the Mets are in the field. It's the opposing outfielders who have to fear the apple! Beltran, Don't Fear The Apple... Gwreck Jan 22 2009 10:01 AM ="Edgy DC":2op1dcbm]Can UMDB do a quick home/road split since 1981 and tell us which Mets have lit the apple the most?[/quote:2op1dcbm] I don't think you need UMDB to tell you it's 1. Darryl 2. Mike But after that... Benjamin Grimm Jan 22 2009 10:01 AM ="Edgy DC":2raunp2q]Can UMDB do a quick home/road split since 1981 and tell us which Mets have lit the apple the most?[/quote:2raunp2q] Piece of cake! Most Shea Stadium (regular season) Mets home runs since 1981: Darryl Strawberry 127 Mike Piazza 99 Howard Johnson 90 David Wright 70 Kevin McReynolds 65 Todd Hundley 57 George Foster 53 Edgardo Alfonzo 53 Carlos Delgado 51 Carlos Beltran 47 Cliff Floyd 44 Bobby Bonilla 40 Gary Carter 40 John Olerud 39 Dave Kingman 38 Keith Hernandez 38 Robin Ventura 36 Jeff Kent 34 Jos� Reyes 30 Mookie Wilson 28 G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 10:06 AM Has anyone ever noticed whether the Apple rose on Met Inside-the-Park HRs? Or was the Apple operator too overcome with shock to get the fruit up in the air? FYI, the following ITPHRs were hit at Shea in the Apple Era: Wally Backman, 7/31/82 Mark Bradley, 8/31/83 Darryl Strawberry, 5/3/89 Marlon Anderson, 6/11/05 Jose Reyes, 9/7/06 Centerfield Jan 22 2009 10:08 AM Never would I have guessed George Foster would be on that list. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 10:09 AM Jeff Kent, apple polisher. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 10:23 AM I was at the Mark Bradley ITPHR game. I don't remember if the apple went up because I was too busy razzing Dodgers RF Mike Marshall for making the poor decision to dive that led to it.

]The original apple first appeared at Shea to the right of the 410-foot sign in center field during the 1980 season as a marketing ploy to inject some excitement into a dreadful team that finished 67-95, in fifth place in the NL East. That team didn't hit many homers, either - Lee Mazzilli led the way with 16, while the Mets finished with just 61 and were mocked by a Daily News graphic that measured their homer output against Roger Maris' 1961 total. The Mets and Maris finished tied. Except the Apple was planted in 1981, the year after the admittedly power-starved Mets had some success with the marketing theme "The Magic Is Back," thus the top hat and the words Mets Magic. And while I wouldn't argue the historical verdict of "dreadful" against a fifth-place, 67-95 team, those Mets were winning back fans with an impressive midseason surge (a 47-39 run that put them in contention for a time) as that Maris vs. Mets graphic was running. Home runs aren't everything. Neither is accuracy at the Snooze, apparently.

It's every ballplayer's dream to be told how to prepare your laundry like a big-leaguer...or so bmfc1 tells us here[/url:2qnuogol]. His laundry? Here[/url:2qnuogol].

="metirish":2fqgi2s7]I love reading his daily exploits down there , sounds like he is having a blast and the ex-players are a lot of fun. One thing , I for some reason thought fantasy camp was a one week thing but in reading the entry form Tuesday I see mention of 80 people at camp last week and 80 this week. So how many camps are there ?[/quote:2fqgi2s7] Two per year, judging from the Mets site[/url:2fqgi2s7]. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:21 AM It's every ballplayer's dream to be told how to prepare your laundry like a big-leaguer...or so bmfc1 tells us here[/url:2qnuogol]. His laundry? Here[/url:2qnuogol]. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 07:57 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 23 2009 07:15 AM Can there be any doubt that the problems with the last two Septembers can be traced to a franchise afflicted with the most un-inspiring motivational rhetoric ever? http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/1/21/4064537.html G-Fafif Jan 23 2009 02:58 AM Day Four of Fantasy Camp: bmfc1 learns the Ropes, praises the Dude; and gets edited by a former Met hurler. It's all here[/url:25pivpn6]. More inspiring rhetoric[/url:25pivpn6], too. G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 04:02 AM BMFC plans to dare Pete Schourek to stick it in his ear today. Well, maybe not, but you can read more about it here[/url:1q778t59]. G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 09:18 PM The end of the road[/url:tkncb9ai] has come for Mets fantasy campers like bmfc1. Read what it was like to face Anthony Young and say goodbye to all that here[/url:tkncb9ai]. G-Fafif Jun 01 2009 01:58 PM The logical conclusion to Fantasy Camp is a turn with the big club. FAFIF St. Lucie correspondent bmfc1 and his fellow Fantasists get to ply their skills at Santos Stadium tomorrow. Yesterday each camper was called to line up on the warning track and hear his name called. Coach Swoboda met our man before the game, pictured here. I was happily along for the ride. Photo by accident. PiggiesTomatoes Jun 01 2009 06:57 PM I had the pleasure of going with a couple of buddies in 06 and had a great time. Photos really help to supplement the memories.

Why do I get the feeling this will be delivered to the Pro Bowl and we'll get an enormous fiberglass pineapple? Either way, Minnesota Nice is bearing fruit! Seriously, that was the longest minute and a half I've watched since Steve Trachsel got the ball back from the catcher.

Another summer at Perry's. I can't.

Pat Zachry salts his tongue, Lenny Randle assaults his chest and Bobby Wine gets on his case, yet you couldn't knock the smile off bmfc1's face at Mets Fantasy Camp[/url:1it3lw2s] on Tuesday. He's already better at being a Met than Bobby Bonilla. Also, see how the Mets attempt to motivate[/url:1it3lw2s] themselves. (Surprisingly, it's not with money.)

She will have the knockwurst. And a Coke. Two knockwursts, two Cokes.

My guess was Jerry Morales, but what do I know?

Doug Flynn's a hoot, bmfc1 reports[/url:14lfgj4l].

I'm a little surprised this wasn't performed at the Lincoln Memorial, for there is no clearer expression that We Are One.

Jeff's obviously big time into Mister Koo, as evidenced by his uniform choice[/url:33ptvf76].

Our man bmfc1 is in St. Lucie right now participating in Mets Fantasy Camp. He'll be sending dispatches to Faith and Fear all week. His preliminary thoughts here[/url:e1rfogzs]. Here's to muscles pulled not too badly...but if they are, at least it will be in the company of John Stearns.

Just catching up on the KC Isles coverage on Newsday here and find this headline regarding my town supervisor: Isles game in KC doesn't phase Hempstead's Murray Yes, but will she be fazed by it? Some editor should catch flak, perhaps from a flack for Merriam-Webster.

In the mid-'90s, when talk of replacing Shea first gained traction and the Mets were going nowhere in the standings and drawing few while doing it, I began to fear the worst, that they would leave if they didn't get a new ballpark, so I considered the question. I couldn't go with an American League team, save for whoever's playing the MFYs. I thought about the Phillies for proximity's sake (I was able to get their games on the radio through static and in their post-Dykstra phase, I still had a vaguely lukwarm feeling for them, long since dissipated); I thought about the Giants since it would bring the whole NY thing back around then, and if the Mets abandoned NY, how could I hold the SF thing against them?; and I settled, eventually (as the question lingered and rearose once in a while in my closet of anxieties), on the Pirates as my doomsday choice, especially once PNC Park opened. I liked the Pirate history. I didn't hate the Pirates as a kid the way I hated the Cubs. I considered the Cubs a little, for Wrigley, but I hate the Cubs. I also thought about the Rockies, because Coors Field is so nice and the Rockies never did anything of lasting psychic damage to the Mets, but what am I going to do with the Rockies? No, it would be the Bucs. Maybe if the Expos were still alive, but they're not. (Dodgers, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Brewers, Braves, Padres, Nationals, Reds, Astros and Marlins all nonstarters for various reasons and bad associations.) But I now realize that was all folderol. I'd become one of those former fans who groused about the good old days and maybe clung to the old days, like the guys I know who remain NY Giants fans long after the fact (like me, except they actually saw them and my Giants thing is historical and maybe a little fetishistic). Or I'd be like a publisher I had who grew up in Brooklyn but washed his hands of the whole thing once the Dodgers moved west (but liked to mention he once saw a triple play). But I couldn't follow the Carolina Cosmopolitans or whatever they'd become if the Mets moved. I accepted Citi Field on the condition that once and for all I could put this nightmare scenario behind me, but between Citi's nonsense and Madoff and who knows what the Wilpons will shoot themselves in foot with...nah, I think we're safe. I would doubt, however, if the Mets ever blew it and blew town that we'd necessarily see National League baseball here again. The whole "National League town" thing that carried such resonance in 1962 no longer exists per se. It's a baseball town. If it wasn't a baseball town big enough for two, and the one that couldn't make it happened to be the National League entry, I think we wouldn't get the same makegood Bill Shea and Branch Rickey engineered on our behalf. Hail to them for doing so, not incidentally. We should name a stadium after one of them. For what it's worth, I still root, however lightly I follow basketball, for the Nets because they were a Long Island team more than 30 years ago. But they're still in the same ADI. If they moved, as Howie Rose once suggested they should, to Louisville, then I'd be completely detached.

]looked like jerks the past few years watching the Yankees rescue their castoffs (Gooden, Strawberry, Cone, Nady) Somebody wanna get Matthews a calendar? Three of his four "past few years" examples joined the MFYs in 1996, 1995 and 1995, respectively. And yeah, Nady's right up there in the Met pantheon. Shoot, we took in ex-MFYs Shane Spencer and Karim Garcia. Haven't we done enough to give hoodlums a second chance?