LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Joker? Smoker? Championship-fire stoker? �I believe that New York, a lot of people say it's the same baseball. It's not the same. New York is different. When you play in New York, you feel more the responsibility of going out and performing well and trying to do the right thing all the time. Sometimes you're going to fail. The difference is that in other cities, probably fans let go of things a little bit faster. In New York, they are so passionate about it, they are going to let you know when you're not doing well. That's not bad. It forces you to concentrate more, to come to the ballpark and prepare yourself better every day. It really has made me become a better player. I feel like I'm a better ballplayer now by playing in New York than what I was when I played in other cities." What a bad fit this guy's been. No respect for the game or the fans. People who speak ill of this guy's toughness, or preparation, or clubhouse presence... they're like the spiritual heirs of the "let Strawberry walk" crowd, only worse. Other than in terms of production, I don't think I've ever equated Darryl and Carlos, certainly not as personalities. Interesting connection in terms of lightning rod status. The thread, now that you've got me thinking about it, is money (Carlos makes "too much" and Darryl wanted "too much") and never quite being able to fulfill everybody's fervent hopes and dreams for them in a Mets uniform. Darryl was conceivably peaking coming off of 1990 while Carlos has almost certainly peaked and will never again be the Carlos of 2006. Mets let Darryl walk and it hurt them, but after one good year with L.A., it's not like the Dodgers reaped any great benefits from having him. Extenuating circumstances, of course. Who the hell knows what would have happened had he stayed here. A fading Cashen and a clueless Harazin weren't the right front office to move on from Darryl. We supposedly have the right guys with their hands on the wheel this time. We shall see. "We shall see" is a registered trademark of BetHedging, Inc., a leader in not being too sure of anything for nearly half a century.