Benjamin Grimm

Did he trot down to first base? Or did he immediately come out of the game? If he has a concussion, the Mets should put him on the next flight to Denver.

Injury delay??? David Wright, HBP then leaves for a pinch runner??? Geez...

="SteveJRogers"]="Benjamin Grimm"]I'd prefer that they not retire his number. Even if the Hall has him in a Met cap on his plaque? Even if. What happens on a plaque doesn't change what Mike accomplished in a Mets uniform. And I just don't think it was enough.

I'd prefer that they not retire his number.

You weren't aware of it? It was fantastic -- free access to about 100 years of The Sporting News. It's where I got the "Ask Hal" material from last offseason.

More info

... is gone! It looks like Google took it over and shut it down.

Parnell 4.5 Stokes 1 Feliciano 0.6 Rodriguez 0.9 Pagan 1 Francoeur 0.5 Sheffield 0.5 Castillo 1

="bmfc1":3sqji2jp]I'd rather see Figueroa get the start than see Livan anymore. Figueroa could be part (I'm not saying he will be) of the '10 Mets. There's no way that Livan will so let's see what Figueroa can do.[/quote:3sqji2jp] I forgot about Figgy. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 05:21 PM I'd like to forget about Nelson too. Someone with hair please make fun of Keith's doo. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 06:41 PM Tidy 6 inning outing out of Parnell. Mets up 2-sniffle entering the home sixth. metsguyinmichigan Aug 14 2009 06:46 PM Guess we should have given Bobby a shot at the rotation sooner! Nice game so far! Uniforms look kinda fun, too. I don't want to see them wear these all or even part-time, but for a weekend they're kinds of neat. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 06:50 PM Barry run, goshdarn I'm glad the Mets didn't fall into that trap of a contract. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 14 2009 07:30 PM That's the way (uh-huh, uh-huh) I like it bmfc1 Aug 14 2009 07:32 PM Wow, that was a nice win. Dare I say it--an easy win. metsguyinmichigan Aug 14 2009 07:33 PM Nice game, Bobby! Tip of the hat and lots of Schaefer! Kong76 Aug 14 2009 07:35 PM Why do night games I go to never end at 9:30? That was sweet, looking forward to tomorrow's big fat pitching matchup! Frayed Knot Aug 14 2009 07:44 PM Yay Us!! MFS62 Aug 14 2009 08:36 PM What were Bobby's pitches hitting on the gun? I didn't see the game. Later DocTee Aug 14 2009 09:10 PM 95 consistently. Even in the sixth. Edgy DC Aug 14 2009 10:30 PM ="Kong76":360a2fc6]Why do night games I go to never end at 9:30?[/quote:360a2fc6] 2:19. Holy crap. Gwreck Aug 14 2009 10:36 PM Great game. Short pitcher's duel, just the way I like it. Think it was the shortest game of the year. The new video boards are working but I couldn't tell you what they're like as I just see the main boards from my seats. No sign of the improvement to the OOT scoreboard yet. Pictures in the concourse are great but they have Nikon logos on them. Couldn't we just honor the Mets without another corporate sponsor or advertisement? Uniforms are possibly the ugliest things I've seen in many a year on the Mets (black jerseys and hats excepted). G-Fafif Aug 14 2009 10:44 PM Hail to the banners. Hail to the '69 and '86 corner displays, miniaturized as they are versus the Shea versions. Hail to the RF video screen which was a big bleeping help. Hail to etching 1969 Mets into the grass. Hail to the blue and orange Cow Parade cow in the Prom food court (part of a salute to Flushing). Hail even to the uni tops that didn't match the uni bottoms because they clothed winners. I didn't see all the Promenade imagery despite looking. I did see my first game from the Pepsi Porch in the company of Met Fairy and DGW along with the man who brings you perhaps the funnest for Met obsessives blog Mets Walk-Offs[/url:25n0jahi]. Got there way early and discovered virtually no line for the Shake Shack, which hence couldn't be resisted. A great night for yours truly and Bobby Parnell. Gwreck Aug 14 2009 11:34 PM ="G-Fafif":38ael5v1]I didn't see all the Promenade imagery despite looking.[/quote:38ael5v1] Above the stairwells. Not exactly prominently placed. G-Fafif Aug 14 2009 11:41 PM Ah, within the seating bowls. I circled the concourses and came up empty. Hell, it's something. Gwreck Aug 15 2009 09:00 AM Nope -- in the concourse. As in, above the entrance to the stairwells. Not at normal eye level. MFS62 Aug 15 2009 09:02 AM ="DocTee":pcp1jqvk]95 consistently. Even in the sixth.[/quote:pcp1jqvk] Thanks, Later. themetfairy Aug 15 2009 12:02 PM I had fun sitting with G-Fafif and dgwphotography at the game, and appreciated Han Solo (and his adorable son) making a trip up to the Pepsi Porch to say hi. The old timey uniforms aren't the Mets' best look. But if they continue to have 2:19 shutouts while wearing them, then they can wear 'em forever. Bobby Parnell - David Wright -

="bmfc1":3obz6ntb]Livan stays in the rotation (why?)[/quote:3obz6ntb] If not, who would replace him? bmfc1 Aug 14 2009 03:11 PM I'd rather see Figueroa get the start than see Livan anymore. Figueroa could be part (I'm not saying he will be) of the '10 Mets. There's no way that Livan will so let's see what Figueroa can do. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 03:15 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 14 2009 03:16 PM bmfc: Figueroa could be part (I'm not saying he will be) of the '10 Mets <<< Please, I was just gonna throw a London broil on the barby. Farmer Ted Aug 14 2009 03:15 PM the metal edging on the glass railings at the bottom of the stairs and aisles throughout the ballpark are in the process of being removed. KC, it may be called bitching to some, I like to think of it as caring in mob-like fashion. Glad that they listened. Shocked that they did. Ashie62 Aug 14 2009 04:31 PM Great night for a ballgame Kudos on the "Mats' Westerberg video** LETS seawolf17 Aug 14 2009 05:08 PM ="Kong76":1kt578pw]I like to stand in the outfield better than sit in those seats.[/quote:1kt578pw] Me too, but as many times as I send Omar my tryout video, he never calls me back. Maybe I should send it to Adam Rubin instead. Benjamin Grimm Aug 14 2009 05:13 PM ="bmfc1":3sqji2jp]I'd rather see Figueroa get the start than see Livan anymore. Figueroa could be part (I'm not saying he will be) of the '10 Mets. There's no way that Livan will so let's see what Figueroa can do.[/quote:3sqji2jp] I forgot about Figgy. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 05:21 PM I'd like to forget about Nelson too. Someone with hair please make fun of Keith's doo. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 06:41 PM Tidy 6 inning outing out of Parnell. Mets up 2-sniffle entering the home sixth. metsguyinmichigan Aug 14 2009 06:46 PM Guess we should have given Bobby a shot at the rotation sooner! Nice game so far! Uniforms look kinda fun, too. I don't want to see them wear these all or even part-time, but for a weekend they're kinds of neat. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 06:50 PM Barry run, goshdarn I'm glad the Mets didn't fall into that trap of a contract. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 14 2009 07:30 PM That's the way (uh-huh, uh-huh) I like it bmfc1 Aug 14 2009 07:32 PM Wow, that was a nice win. Dare I say it--an easy win. metsguyinmichigan Aug 14 2009 07:33 PM Nice game, Bobby! Tip of the hat and lots of Schaefer! Kong76 Aug 14 2009 07:35 PM Why do night games I go to never end at 9:30? That was sweet, looking forward to tomorrow's big fat pitching matchup! Frayed Knot Aug 14 2009 07:44 PM Yay Us!! MFS62 Aug 14 2009 08:36 PM What were Bobby's pitches hitting on the gun? I didn't see the game. Later DocTee Aug 14 2009 09:10 PM 95 consistently. Even in the sixth. Edgy DC Aug 14 2009 10:30 PM ="Kong76":360a2fc6]Why do night games I go to never end at 9:30?[/quote:360a2fc6] 2:19. Holy crap. Gwreck Aug 14 2009 10:36 PM Great game. Short pitcher's duel, just the way I like it. Think it was the shortest game of the year. The new video boards are working but I couldn't tell you what they're like as I just see the main boards from my seats. No sign of the improvement to the OOT scoreboard yet. Pictures in the concourse are great but they have Nikon logos on them. Couldn't we just honor the Mets without another corporate sponsor or advertisement? Uniforms are possibly the ugliest things I've seen in many a year on the Mets (black jerseys and hats excepted). G-Fafif Aug 14 2009 10:44 PM Hail to the banners. Hail to the '69 and '86 corner displays, miniaturized as they are versus the Shea versions. Hail to the RF video screen which was a big bleeping help. Hail to etching 1969 Mets into the grass. Hail to the blue and orange Cow Parade cow in the Prom food court (part of a salute to Flushing). Hail even to the uni tops that didn't match the uni bottoms because they clothed winners. I didn't see all the Promenade imagery despite looking. I did see my first game from the Pepsi Porch in the company of Met Fairy and DGW along with the man who brings you perhaps the funnest for Met obsessives blog Mets Walk-Offs[/url:25n0jahi]. Got there way early and discovered virtually no line for the Shake Shack, which hence couldn't be resisted. A great night for yours truly and Bobby Parnell. Gwreck Aug 14 2009 11:34 PM ="G-Fafif":38ael5v1]I didn't see all the Promenade imagery despite looking.[/quote:38ael5v1] Above the stairwells. Not exactly prominently placed. G-Fafif Aug 14 2009 11:41 PM Ah, within the seating bowls. I circled the concourses and came up empty. Hell, it's something. Gwreck Aug 15 2009 09:00 AM Nope -- in the concourse. As in, above the entrance to the stairwells. Not at normal eye level. MFS62 Aug 15 2009 09:02 AM ="DocTee":pcp1jqvk]95 consistently. Even in the sixth.[/quote:pcp1jqvk] Thanks, Later. themetfairy Aug 15 2009 12:02 PM I had fun sitting with G-Fafif and dgwphotography at the game, and appreciated Han Solo (and his adorable son) making a trip up to the Pepsi Porch to say hi. The old timey uniforms aren't the Mets' best look. But if they continue to have 2:19 shutouts while wearing them, then they can wear 'em forever. Bobby Parnell - David Wright -

The Wikipedia 1981 strike article seems to support my recollection: ]Reasons for the strike The strike was called in response to the owners desperately wanting to win back the prerogatives over the players. The owners had already lost at the bargaining table and in the courts on the issue of the free agency draft. At issue during the seven week long negotiations was the owners demanding compensation for losing a free agent player to another team. The compensation in question was a player who was selected from the signing team's roster (not including 12 "protected" players). The players maintained that any form of compensation would undermine the value of free agency. The strike ends On July 31, 1981, a compromise was reached. In the settlement, teams that lost a "premium" free agent could be compensated by drawing from a pool of players left unprotected from all of the clubs rather than just the signing club. Players agree to restricting free agency to players with six or more years of major league service. [1] The settlement gave the owners a limited victory on the compensation issue.

I guess the "pool" thing was the result of the 1981 settlement. (Seaver was lost to the Sox after the 1983 season, so it wouldn't have been from the 1985 settlement.) My memory (apparently wrong) was that the big fuss in the 1981 strike was that the owners wanted to introduce compensation as a way of reining in free agency at least a little, and the players were, naturally, opposed to that. The "pool" idea came about as a compromise; the team that loses a player gets compensation, but there's no penalty to the team that signs the player. Thinking more about it, I guess the 1981 settlement was the one that abolished the "re-entry" draft. Remember that? A draft would be held that determined which teams could bid on which free agents. I remember getting all excited when the Mets "drafted" Reggie Jackson. Of course, they had no intention of ever talking to him. (Like there was any chance at all that the de Roulet Mets would sign a Reggie Jackson.) EDIT: Frayed Knot's post snuck in there while I was composing the above. If it looks like I didn't read his post, it's because I didn't!

Wait... my memory of baseball history seems to be fuzzing up on me. There were draft picks as free agent compensation all the way back in 1980, before the 1981 strike? I thought that came along years later. And didn't it start out as a "pool" compensation? (That's how the Mets lost Tom Seaver to the White Sox, because Chicago had lost a free agent to some other team.)

When this thread was created on February 9, we had no idea it would be the story of the season.

Since participation seems to be way down, I'm no longer going to go to the effort of posting reminders in this thread. If two or more business days have elapsed since the end of a game, and I'm in a Schaefering mood, I'll do the tallying without any warning. I understand the apathy; I feel it myself. Hopefully the Mets will have an inspiring offseason and I'll be more motivated to keep the Schaefer thing going in the new decade.

Perez 2 Stokes 1 Wright 2 Sullivan 2 Tatis 1.5 Sheffield 1.5

Terrible voter participation for this game... VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for August 10, 2009 (4 votes) Arizona Diamondbacks 7, New York Mets 4 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceFernando Tatis6.001.501-4, 3B, 2 RBI.Anderson Hernandez5.251.312-3, R, 2B, RBI, BB, SO.Angel Pagan3.500.881-5, RBI.Luis Castillo2.000.502-4, R, BB, SO.Mike Pelfrey1.500.38(L) 6.0 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO.David Wright0.500.121-3, R, BB, SB.Daniel Murphy0.500.121-4, R, SO.

Metfairy awarded one point (it seems) to Livan Hernandez, who didn't appear in the game. That point has been discarded. VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for August 9, 2009 (7 votes) New York Mets 5, San Diego Padres 1 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceJohan Santana39.155.59(W) 8.0 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 SO.Anderson Hernandez7.021.002-3, RBI, BB, SO.Jeff Francoeur6.390.912-4, 2 R, SO.Daniel Murphy5.880.842-5, RBI.Luis Castillo3.020.432-5, SO.Francisco Rodriguez3.030.431.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Angel Pagan2.250.320-4, R, BB, SO.Omir Santos2.260.321-4, R.

I know that's just a typo on Michigan's part, but I'm intrigued by the verb "frink."

The last two seasons had plenty of fun, at least from April through August. This year, the fun pretty much ended when May did.

I almost never watch games that don't involve the Mets. (And lately, I don't seem to watch the ones that do involve them.) I'm definitely going to pass on this one.

Two-out triple from Cory Sullivan.

Two more games about to close, some time tomorrow (Thursday) and then we'll be all caught up. The Monday game against the Diamondbacks is very lightly voted, with only four votes so far. Schaefer POTG 8/9/09 - Mets 5, Padres 1Schaefer POTG 8/10/09 - Diamondbacks 7, Mets 4

Since I'm working from home today, I'll probably turn on the TV for the 3:40 game. If I do, it will be the first time I've seen any Mets action since July 16. I don't think I've ever had this much apathy.