G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 The baseball legend who made a Met imprint by hitting one out and literally going his own way (backwards around the bases) dies at 87.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 That backwards trip around the bases fit right in with those early Mets.RIP, Jimmy.Later
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 If Piersall saw today's game, he'd be turning over in his grave counterclockwise.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 That Frank Thomas memoir that he pimped on this site had a lot of indispensable material on young, minor league Piersall. Among other things, he got tossed from a game for riding an ump, and then joined the crowd later in the game in civilian clothes and got a whole section riding the ump, apparently teaching them songs to get the ump's goat. The guy was amazin'.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I'm thinking that maybe I should read Fear Strikes Out. I watched the movie many years ago (maybe as much as 40 years ago!) but somehow I never read the book.I think there's a misconception among some about how Piersall "ran the bases backward". Some think that he ran from third base to second to first to home, which of course would have invalidated the home run. Obviously, as the famous photo indicates, he touched the bases in the proper order, but was facing in the opposite direction as he was running.I don't think I've ever seen video of him doing that. Does it actually exist?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 At the time of his death, Jimmy Piersall was the fourth-oldest living Met.Hillman, Darius Dutton (Dave)September 14, 192789 years, 263 daysThomas, Frank Joseph (Frank)June 11, 192987 years, 357 daysPignatano, Joseph Benjamin (Joe)August 4, 192987 years, 303 daysPiersall, James Anthony (Jimmy)November 14, 192987 years, 201 daysCraig, Roger Lee (Roger)February 17, 193087 years, 106 daysLandrith, Hobart Neal (Hobie)March 16, 193087 years, 79 daysLary, Frank Strong (Frank)April 10, 193087 years, 54 daysFriend, Robert Bartmess (Bob)November 24, 193086 years, 191 daysMays, WillieMay 6, 193186 years, 28 daysMarshall, Rufus James (Jim)May 25, 193186 years, 9 daysSherry, Norman Burt (Norm)July 16, 193185 years, 323 daysBressoud, Edward Francis (Ed)May 2, 193285 years, 32 daysTaylor, Samuel Douglas (Sammy)February 27, 193384 years, 96 daysAltman, George Lee (George)March 20, 193384 years, 75 daysHicks, William Joseph (Joe)April 7, 193384 years, 57 daysCharles, Edwin Douglas (Ed)April 29, 193384 years, 35 daysGreen, Elijah Jerry (Pumpsie)October 27, 193383 years, 219 daysHunter, Willard Mitchell (Willard)March 8, 193483 years, 87 daysMacKenzie, Kenneth Purvis (Ken)March 10, 193483 years, 85 daysDaviault, Raymond Joseph Robert (Ray)May 27, 193483 years, 7 daysMoving into the top 20 is Felix Mantilla, age 82 years, 309 days.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Maybe the real mystery to that HR, as per Gary's comment yesterday, is how Piersall was able to pull off that move without big 'ol hard-ass Dallas Green, the pitcher for that AB, tackling and then pummeling Piersall en route.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Some think that he ran from third base to second to first to home, which of course would have invalidated the home run. Obviously, as the famous photo indicates, he touched the bases in the proper order, but was facing in the opposite direction as he was running.I thought it was improper order until the late 90's, forget how I was set straight.Maybe it was on Mofo.Frayed Knot wrote:Piersall was able to pull off that move without big 'ol hard-ass Dallas Green, the pitcher for that ABDon't think I ever knew the homer was off Dallas, makes it even funnier.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2017 Author Posted June 5, 2017 Dallas's reaction, from his memoir:“I was pissed off by his antics. I stalked him as he rounded the bases, swearing up a storm.”Synergy between the Mets who ran backwards dying on a day the current Mets keep going backwards explored here.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Even teammate Tim Harkness seems to have lost his patience. Little recalled is that Carl Willey was throwing what would ultimately be a two-hit shutout.He's shown rounding third at right, as coach Ernie White, third baseman (and also recently deceased) Ruben Amaro, and umpire Vinnie Smith stare in apparent disbelief. On the left, he's shown kicking at a Yankee fan who went after him, as an NYPD blue is torn between his love of duty and his fear of spikes[fimg=750]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.72906.1313825515!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/gal-hated-piersall-jpg.jpg[/fimg]Why would a fan go after him? Because Yankee fans hated him, owing back to a brawl with Billy Martin. It's easy to forget that Billy Martin was a folk hero (and popular with young ladies) because he was a little battler, and they saw him as a victim. The fact that he started most of his brawls was a lost point. Here he sends a knee into Piersall's solar plexus.[fimg=400]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ff/13/35/ff1335b1b6ea4f9437a8c9937e9f8396.jpg[/fimg]He took his own team's part as a bench-jockey. Is he here riding the other team's pitcher to help his team out? Perhaps riding an ump for squeezing his pitcher? Nope, he's riding the official scorer for crediting Rod Kahehl with an error.And lest it be forgotten, he sported movie star good looks. He was a rare ballplayer who was better looking than the actor who played him. He could have been a Cuban bandleader with that chin.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 Tim Harkness was not ready to embrace Jimmy Piersall, per his conversation with the ever curious Nick Diunte.“He hit one of those Chinese home runs in the old Polo Grounds,” he said. “He hit it about 285 feet. When he got to first base, he turned around and started running backwards. When he rounded third, I said to myself, ‘Should I kick him in the ass?’ When he came to the plate, I just stood there with the bat just like a statue and just watched him do it. As soon as he touched home plate, the umpire said, “Home run and you’re gone!” He threw him out of the ballgame for making a travesty of the game so to speak.”Piersall wasn't ejected, just as he wasn't released the next day, which is how it's often told. But I don't doubt Harkness debated the ass-kicking he wanted to give his teammate.
Guest Mets Willets Point Guests Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 One of the all time great Nutmeggers in baseball. RIP.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 There's an in-print paperback edition of Fear Strikes Out available on Amazon.com for $17.93.These versions look more interesting: $29.95$500.00
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