Jose Jose No Jose!

[soupcan]

I dont think 8 should be retired, I dont think 15 should be retired and as much as I dig Jose, I don't think Travis should give up 7 for him.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree that neither 8 nor 15 should be retired. The next number that should hang on the wall (after 31, of course) is 5.

[TransMonk]

While I was on the wagon to re-sign Jose, I'm not so sure he should get his old number and lead-off spot back right off the bat.

He still has a lot to earn.

[Guest cooby]

15 = Jerry Grote? He's the only 15 I can even think of, but retire his #?

I know, I could look it up on Widey's magnificent website, but I am trying to do research in my head for once

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm pretty sure he's thinking Carlos Beltran. Although Jerry Grote was my first thought too.

[Guest cooby]

Retire Beltran? lolololololololololololololololol
Let's retire Dave Kingman and Todd Hundley too!

[Edgy MD]

Carlos Beltran is sixth all-time in WAR for the franchise, according to baseball-reference.

Gary Carter is something like 40th.

[Guest cooby]

and that is .....

[Edgy MD]

Not enough for my money. Not enough to get 15 retired for Beltran. Not enough to get 8 semi-retired for Gary Carter.

[Ceetar]

Beltran is a Hall of Famer, and if it's not a blank cap, it'll likely be a Mets cap. That has seemingly been the bar for retirement so far.

[Guest cooby]

I'm not really a fan of retiring numbers, period.

[Guest d'Kong76]

I'm not at all jazzed up about his return. Is he gonna start? Who's he
gonna bump? Flores is en fuego. The team is on fire.

[soupcan]

d'Kong76 wrote: I'm not at all jazzed up about his return. Is he gonna start? Who's he gonna bump? Flores is en fuego. The team is on fire.

I trust Terry not to muck up the mojo.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I would hope not.

Reyes made a bit more sense a week ago, when the team looked pathetic. Now that they look awesome, I'd consider letting Reyes wait a little longer.

Who does he replace on the roster? Reynolds?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think it's very much in Josejose's interest he does well. That doesn't mean he will, but it means he had better.

A "good" Reyes lengthens the lineup, which is what we need.

[TransMonk]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Who does he replace on the roster? Reynolds?

On the 25-man, Reynolds is likely to get bumped.

I believe Reyes would also have to be added to the 40-man. I'm guessing they 60-day DL Wright to make room, no?

[Edgy MD]

Reynolds seems the most likely candidate for replacement.

The most likely initial lineup looks like Reyes at third, with Flores moving to first, giving Loney a day of bench action.

[Guest cooby]

Okay I loved Jose too and I am more than willing to give him a chance but I don't think he should break into the lineup on his very first game back.

He should take 72 or 77. ( try to figure that out )

Drop a soso reliever from the 25 man roster for him

[Benjamin Grimm]

Did Jose end up playing any left field during his time at Brooklyn or Binghamton? Or was that just an idea that was floated and ultimately rejected?

[Frayed Knot]

While it's increasingly likely that De Aza won't end the month of July as a Met, even the rumored use of JoseJose (plus Kelly Johnson) as a part-time outfielder doesn't mean they have a plane ticket outta town with ADA's name on it quite yet and therefore Reynolds is the odd man out here.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Edgy MD wrote: The most likely initial lineup looks like Reyes at third, with Flores moving to first

I forgot about Floreboom to first option. Feeling better now.

Thanks.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Reyes made a bit more sense a week ago, when the team looked pathetic. Now that they look awesome, I'd consider letting Reyes wait a little longer.

I mean, it's not like the team changed much from a week ago, and we should be ready for it and really really try to make sure it's not during those four games with the Nats.

Wilmer bumped his wRC+ up to almost average with that 6/6 but let's not pretend he's suddenly good. James Loney is a better player. Anything but Rockies Reyes is a better player (And he was definitely accused of not caring in Colorado, after being traded away from contention).

Wilmer can go back to being a good super-sub like he was late last year.

[TransMonk]

Yeah, you're never as good as you think you are when you're on a winning streak and never as bad as you think you are when you're on a losing streak.

[ashie62]

I'd imagine it will take a few games for the lineup to shake out.

Personally? I would try Reyes at third and Flores at 1st for starters.

We have little idea of what kind of Reyes we are getting. We shall see.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Ceetar wrote: Wilmer bumped his wRC+ up to almost average with that 6/6 but let's not pretend he's suddenly good. James Loney is a better player. Wilmer can go back to being a good super-sub like he was late last year.

Jesus, Mary, and The Donald you're just brutal sometimes!

[Ceetar]

d'Kong76 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Wilmer bumped his wRC+ up to almost average with that 6/6 but let's not pretend he's suddenly good. James Loney is a better player. Wilmer can go back to being a good super-sub like he was late last year. Jesus, Mary, and The Donald you're just brutal sometimes!

Just trying not to get ahead of ourselves. Like how Nimmo getting a few hits doesn't mean we can jettison Conforto now.

[Edgy MD]

Go get him, Ceetar!

[fimg=400:21e4zfrd]http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/files/2014/01/StrawMan2.jpg[/fimg:21e4zfrd]

[Ceetar]

you might want to lookup straw man, because continually pointing out the same fact as evidence piles up is not it.

[Edgy MD]

I don't need to look up anything, Sarcastico. If you have located an opponent who has advocated the jettisoning of Conforto, please present this person, otherwise, please spare us such arguments.

[Guest cooby]

They should retire #18!