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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Lunchbucket should know this cold, I would expect. He probably logged off to go and put on his pants with the security tag.


I was in a meeting. Shinjo?


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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
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SteveJRogers wrote:
... the fact is, unless the former wearer was a no doubt future HOFer, the Mets have historically never really gave a flying fuck about numerical legacies.


You nailed that one.


Although, I see that 17 hasn't been issued since mid-2010, five years ago. That can't be a random coincidence, I'd suppose.


Nope definitely looks like Samuels was giving Keith some kind of personal FU...


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Edgy MD wrote:
Mark Johnson.


There's one five between Mark n Dave. Still, that's impressive ... remembering Johnson as #5. What was he a Met for, like 15 minutes? Okay, I exaggerate., but MJ's stint couldn't have been more than a few months.

Parts of three seasons, but definitely an ephemeral tenure.

Big, broadshouldered first basemen who wear little infielder numbers like five stand out in my mind. Like Mike Marshall in six, or Marv Throneberry in 2, or even Babe Ruth in three. It's like a chip on their shoulder. "Go ahead. Make fun of my little baby number. I'll crush you."

Marshall starred in the MoFo Picnic game (wearing 20 at the time), playing like three positions on a day the Mets did their best to bench as many regulars as they could, and ultimately robbing a home run. That was the game that began the 2001 turnaround.


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I think Rogers was correct about Samuels and his employers not giving it much thought.

The interesting thing about 17's disappearance is that it was actually offseason-issued to Cin-lung Hu (Who?) when he signed as a free agent but it was pulled before the games began after the predictable fan outcry. It shows that the new guy (Kierst) is more sensitive to this stuff than Charlie was.


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Keith has never (at least to my knowledge) complained publicly about his number not being retired.
He's just moaned about it being given out to back-of-the-bullpen and light-hitting MI types -- the Koos and Louis Lopezes of the world.

Like I've said before, I'm all for it if someone wants to take charge of distributing numbers a little less haphazardly than in the past (the Mets should hire JCL as a consultant for this task).
It would certainly be an improvement over this whole quasi-retirement stuff which I dislike at least as much as I would a trend towards overly-active retired jerseys.


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when they eventually retire 17 (if they do I guess) for Keith they should try to get as many of these players that worse it together to parade up to him in a 17 jersey, and ceremonially remove it and throw it in a pile.


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No they shouldn't.

Geez if they really want to honor tradition, 17 should be the number they put the shittiest guy they can find in because with few exceptions that's all who've worn 17 starting with Don Zimmer!

I gotta say this whole hysteria over number retirement has become about 15% genuine affection for players and their contribution to history; 10% fan desperation to realize some reward for theor passion and 75% hook for ignoramuses like Bill Price to hang their manufactured outrage upon.


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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
No they shouldn't.

Geez if they really want to honor tradition, 17 should be the number they put the shittiest guy they can find in because with few exceptions that's all who've worn 17 starting with Don Zimmer!

I gotta say this whole hysteria over number retirement has become about 15% genuine affection for players and their contribution to history; 10% fan desperation to realize some reward for theor passion and 75% hook for ignoramuses like Bill Price to hang their manufactured outrage upon.


Especially to play up supposed inferiority complexes when compared to how the MFY choose to honor their former players. Because Lord knows there is nothing hacks in the media love more as a way to get a rise out of Met fans is to bring up something in comparison with the Yankees.


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The collective guilt trip or standards of civility or something must've gotten to Mr. Price because his McKnight column has been shorn of "lousy" and all the other weirdness. Reads like a person wrote it now.


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I'm hot right now.

Monday, I called the governor of Georgia, and the scheduled execution of Kelly Gissendaner was postponed.

Yesterday, I wrote and tweeted Bill Price, and he spiked the nasty parts of his column.

I rarely have this sort of effect, so if I can straighten out something for anybody, help you with a uncomfortable confrontation, now's the chance to ask me.


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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm hot right now.

Monday, I called the governor of Georgia, and the scheduled execution of Kelly Gissendaner was postponed.

Yesterday, I wrote and tweeted Bill Price, and he spiked the nasty parts of his column.

I rarely have this sort of effect, so if I can straighten out something for anybody, help you with a uncomfortable confrontation, now's the chance to ask me.


I think their is a retail chain you can call for JCL.


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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm hot right now.

Monday, I called the governor of Georgia, and the scheduled execution of Kelly Gissendaner was postponed.

Yesterday, I wrote and tweeted Bill Price, and he spiked the nasty parts of his column.

I rarely have this sort of effect, so if I can straighten out something for anybody, help you with a uncomfortable confrontation, now's the chance to ask me.


I know a prime minister from Israel is in your neck of the woods, and there's a proposed deal with Iran that he'd like scrubbed.

Now that's a challenge!


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Ceetar wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
I'm hot right now.

Monday, I called the governor of Georgia, and the scheduled execution of Kelly Gissendaner was postponed.

Yesterday, I wrote and tweeted Bill Price, and he spiked the nasty parts of his column.

I rarely have this sort of effect, so if I can straighten out something for anybody, help you with a uncomfortable confrontation, now's the chance to ask me.


I think their is a retail chain you can call for JCL.

Lol. The regional manager wants me to call him.


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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm hot right now.

Monday, I called the governor of Georgia, and the scheduled execution of Kelly Gissendaner was postponed.

Yesterday, I wrote and tweeted Bill Price, and he spiked the nasty parts of his column.

I rarely have this sort of effect, so if I can straighten out something for anybody, help you with a uncomfortable confrontation, now's the chance to ask me.



Edgy, do you think you could maybe say a good word to Father Winter and remind him it's March and he can go home now?


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