Mets at the Deadline

[Edgy MD]

Supposedly turned down Luke Gregerson for Daniel Murphy.

One can imagine the temptation to over-pay for relief right now, but I'm glad they realize their offense is also critically pinched.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'd be unhappy if they made that deal, they need to move Murphy for an outfielder or catcher who can hit.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Stevie P would have made this deal in heartbeat.

[nymr83]

What is Gregerson's contract situation? I assume he is at least in his arbitration years but how long until free agency?

As a "rental" this deal is terrible, even if the Mets were in it for this year which I think they shouldn't be. If he has several years of club-control left though then I kinda like it.

[ashie62]

Gregorson Arbitration elgible 13/14 FA 2015

[Ceetar]

It's a horrible deal to trade a good contributing player for a part time player whose success might be in part park-induced.

[Edgy MD]

The Mets wrote: Daniel Murphy hit .523 at home in July, the highest home batting average in team history in a calendar month.

[RealityChuck]

The Second Spitter wrote: Stevie P would have made this deal in heartbeat.

He would make any deal anyone offered him.

[Frayed Knot]

Phillips would be more likely to deal a prospect (or more than one) away for something mediocre and established under the line of thinking that; "Hey, they're just prospects and they're probably years away".

IOW: Wheeler, or maybe Familia, for Gregorson would be more his speed. "And, what the hell, we'll throw in this Nimmo kid too"

[nymr83]

Edgy DC wrote: The Mets wrote: Daniel Murphy hit .523 at home in July, the highest home batting average in team history in a calendar month.

He still lacks power or a position that he plays well defensively, I'd sell high on the batting average here.

[Ceetar]

Nymr83 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: The Mets wrote: Daniel Murphy hit .523 at home in July, the highest home batting average in team history in a calendar month. He still lacks power or a position that he plays well defensively, I'd sell high on the batting average here.

leads the team in doubles. is 31st in the league (Give or take) in XBHs. I wouldn't say that's..no power.

[Edgy MD]

So, any predictions on who we've seen the last Metly act from?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Hairy playing like he wants out, but not sure what can be gotten for him. I think it would be awesome if we could get something for Jon Rauch.

Exciting but probably unfulfilling 5 and a half hours ahead of us.

[Benjamin Grimm]

My guess is that the Mets won't make any moves today.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

That's my guess as well.

Honestly, though... the trade they need to make most-- Davis or Duda outta Dodge, for something with real growth potential-- is one they can't make at this moment.

[Frayed Knot]

SOMEBODY has to want Rauch and Hairston - it's just a question of what's being offered in return.
Neither is a guy you have to to move for salary, or chemistry, or make room for the rookie reasons, so you don't want to be dealing them just to deal.
Also don't have to move them today. Hairy, in particular, is the type you see a team pick up with only weeks to go in the season (subject to all the obvious restrictions).

[Edgy MD]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: That's my guess as well. Honestly, though... the trade they need to make most-- Davis or Duda outta Dodge, for something with real growth potential-- is one they can't make at this moment.

They really can't trade Johan. I wonder how whether there's Dickey talk out there.

Alderson has shown himself to be a real restrained dealer. Letting the market come to him, with regard to Beltran, looks like it will pay off nicely. But he was also left holding Reyes at the deadline last year, and we ended up with... what? Plawecki and Reynolds? Plawecki and the unsigned Stankiewicz? And whatever productivity they got out of Reyes the last two months.

[Ceetar]

Well the Mets haven't showed Alderson that there is any real impact to be had from a trade yet. He's struck me as a guy that would really like to tinker and adjust. We've seen it some with some of the roster shuffling via the minors, but I wonder how 'restrained' he would've been had the Mets hovered around that competitive point they'd been into July.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

The Rangers DFA'ed Yorvit Torrealba to clear space for Geovany Soto. MLB Rumors says the Nationals are interested. Might he be worth a minor prospect as the RH platoon catcher, or is the fact that the Rangers think he's worse than Geovany Soto a red flag?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Mets also apparently looking at Kelly Shoppach.

[Edgy MD]

Bat aside, if he's still got some big-league backstopping skills, I'm interested.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: Well the Mets haven't showed Alderson that there is any real impact to be had from a trade yet. He's struck me as a guy that would really like to tinker and adjust. We've seen it some with some of the roster shuffling via the minors, but I wonder how 'restrained' he would've been had the Mets hovered around that competitive point they'd been into July.

Sandy's still working with no money. The Brewers would probably salary dump K-Rod ... maybe ask for just a fringe prospect, too. Even if the Mets are buyers, what are they gonna buy with no money and an unwillingness to deal their real prospects? Scrubs like Geovany Soto. I'm fine with the Mets holding on to their Zack Wheelers, but it seems to me that the team's still effectively broke.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

MLB Rumors saying that the Tigers are looking hard for a power hitter after getting 'discouraging news' on Victor Martinez returning from his knee injury. Maybe they'll get desperate and overpay for Hairston. Losing that division means likely facing either the Angels or the Rangers (I'm still not sold on the A's) in the play-in game, and that's an unpleasant prospect.

[Ceetar]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ceetar wrote: Well the Mets haven't showed Alderson that there is any real impact to be had from a trade yet. He's struck me as a guy that would really like to tinker and adjust. We've seen it some with some of the roster shuffling via the minors, but I wonder how 'restrained' he would've been had the Mets hovered around that competitive point they'd been into July. Sandy's still working with no money. The Brewers would probably salary dump K-Rod ... maybe ask for just a fringe prospect, too. Even if the Mets are buyers, what are they gonna buy with no money and an unwillingness to deal their real prospects? Scrubs like Geovany Soto. I'm fine with the Mets holding on to their Zack Wheelers, but it seems to me that the team's still effectively broke.

I don't think we actually know how much money he's working with. Maybe they would've bought K-Rod, like was supposedly rumored, if they hadn't faltered.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I kinda think the money thing is an issue also. If they're scared of trading Hairston because they'd sell fewer tickets in the 2nd half then maybe they should be buying players but they're not doing that either.

[Edgy MD]

Well, there's certainly a case for standing pat.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree. If it were possible to trade Santana or Bay, then I would expect them to seriously consider it. But that's not the case. Hairston may conceivably be a part of a contending Mets club next year (if a lot of other things go right) and if they want to keep him so they can try to sign him, I'm okay with that.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm OK with the Mets standing pat, too. I was just saying that it's probably unreasonable to expect the Mets to acquire an impact player now given their financial constraints and self-imposed conditions for making a trade.

[Edgy MD]

Well, it's probably unreasonable anyway considering the hole they've dug, heightening the risk/reward ratio of such a move.

[Edgy MD]

Reports of the Tigers being Hairinterested. He'd fit well on the Sawx also, and help hurt Yankee hopes.