Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:But there's so much other noise/random variance, even if you're comparing performance with two catchers and the same pitcher. If all you have is the appearance of different performance, well... it's really tough to call it a trend, rather than a collision of random circumstances.And that there may be a statistically-significant difference in how someone performs with two different catchers doesn't tell us ANYTHING about the why, and-- unlike with ERA (another problematic, noisy stat)-- it's damn near impossible to untangle the why, even with Pitch F/X. Without any hint of the "why," I'm not sure there's any predictive value to these numbers.Well, we're probably grasping at straws here in terms of 'best choice to bring up' but the Mets also have more data than we do. Maybe that's telling. A career of seeming to be a good game-caller may hint at some 'why'. Of course, you'd have to figure some of that has to do with relationship and Johnson does not have that with these pitchers. He doesn't really know what they like to throw and why and how. Well, except he's probably caught Dickey some back in 2008. I wonder if that played in at all. I wonder if he'll catch Dickey's starts.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Rob Johnson. And he'll be up for a spell.As per Sandy, Thole will be out more than 7 days-- he's supposed to be completely idle at least that long.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Third "Robert Johnson" to play for the Mets.Robert Dale ("Bob") Johnson, utilityman, 1967Robert Wallace ("Bob") Johnson pitcher, 1969Robert James ("Rob") Johnson, catcher 2012
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Did a great job tonight. Did you see how warm that bench looked?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I like it Fman, and we'd lose nothing in power either and still have the defence.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 As per Sandy, Thole will be out more than 7 days-- he's supposed to be completely idle at least that long.And as per Gary last night, the special concussion DL needs to be renewed in 7-day chunks. IOW, no simply deciding that the guy needs more time and keeping him DL'd on an open-ended time frame or through minor league rehab games.Of course they can always swap Johnson out for someone else at any time, but at the end of 7 days Thole needs to: 1) be activated;or 2) be re-7-day DL'd (not sure how many times you can do that)or3) be transferred to a different DL list (regular 15 or 60 day)
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I'm sure they're intending to be careful, and likely plan to reup him on the seventh (only need to do it once, after that the 15 is a better option anyway), but I imagine these decisions will be more firmly made early next week.
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