Mets @ Florida IGT 7/22: The Wright Time

[Ceetar]

well there was a specific chapter involving an acquired speedster talking with some coaches and them telling him how he really shouldn't be trying to steal bases or Beane will come down on him. (moneyball the book that is, not 'moneyball' the perceived way the Oakland A's did/do run the club)

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time." K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82." G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith." K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War." G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here." As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset. more the Stolen Base than speed. More the concept that speedy dudes with little power, bad OBAs, and low rates of stolen base success were valuable commodities to treasure and put at the top of the order.

Yep. G & K more or less reduced it to, "Well, y'know, Moneyball pretty much dismissed speed as an asset, but..."

[Centerfield]

seawolf17 wrote: I feel like Mike Cameron was a Met really recently, but only Jose and David would remember him as a teammate. Last time he was a Met, Mike Piazza was still a Met. Been a long time.

Beltran too. It was Carlos's face that ended Cameron's Met career.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, Beltran remembers him intimately.

Little remembered is that Floyd got hurt in the same game, but did his best walking it off for what seemed like 20 minutes before managing to stay in the game to keep the team from getting fully sapped.