Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 It's Ollie Day and it might be the last one. Root, root, root for the home team.1. Jose Reyes, SS2. Willie Harris, CF3. David Wright, 3B4. Ike Davis, 1B5. Daniel Murphy, 2B6. Lucas Duda, LF7. Fernando Martinez, DH8. Josh Thole, C9. Kirk Nieuwenhuis, RFIn the bullpen: Chris Capuano (expected to get only one inning), Boof Bonser, Taylor Buchholz, Jenrry Mejia, Jason Isringhausen, Francisco Rodriguez.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Oliver Perez survives the first inning, no runs on no hits and no walks.Mets draw blood in the bottom of the inning on an error, passed ball, ground out and sac fly. Reyes' legs in action.Two hits for the Cards in the second, but Allah Vah gets out of it with the help of a caught stealing, Thole to Reyes.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 10 of 14 pitches were strikesscoreless through two
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Ollie's day ends after two innings and two hits, no runs and no walks.And it's Grandfather's Day at the park as Francisco Rodriguez takes over.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 He gets through his inning with a double allowed (Shane Robinson) and a strikeout (Tyler Green).
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 mlb.tv is having trouble with the feed--sometimes the pictures and sound go out, other times we get the sound but the picture is from a Turkish League basketball game.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:Ollie's day ends after two innings and two hits, no runs and no walks.Looks like those eager for Oliver's head to roll will have to wait at least a few more days.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Wright walks and is plated by an RBI double from Ike Davis. Chris Cap throws a scoreless inning on behalf of his remorsless wife and it's 2-0.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Scoreless izzing from Isringhausen, with a two-out walk.We're halfway and Reyes opens with a single. Mets hoping a buyer comes in with the cash to sign Reyes.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Edgy DC wrote:Ollie's day ends after two innings and two hits, no runs and no walks.Looks like those eager for Oliver's head to roll will have to wait at least a few more days.Honestly the velocity and the no Ks doesn't actually bolster me as to this being a good performance. To me it's always been about how he sets up hitters, and how his pitches look.Also, why is it that the beat writers only seem to write about his velocity when he doesn't let up runs? It's like "accentuate the negative!"My stance has always been that I don't believe the Ollie-Warthen tandem can work. If Perez regains his 9 K/9 rate, I'll believe he can contribute. But despite his ptiches still having movement and his stuff being 'good' I don't have faith in him comprehending the 'art' of pitching, of setting up hitters, of changing speeds. The complement to that is that if even if Santana is somewhat diminished, I _do_ have faith in him still make his pitches work for outs.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 In the booth, Ralph was quick to point out that, even though Ollie didn't walk anyone, it was troublesome to see his velocity as low as it was.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Still, I don't think they'd release him after a scoreless outing. They'll probably wait until he gets hammered again.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Ceetar wrote:Also, why is it that the beat writers only seem to write about his velocity when he doesn't let up runs? It's like "accentuate the negative!"I agree.Ceetar wrote:My stance has always been that I don't believe the Ollie-Warthen tandem can work.I don't agree.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:Ceetar wrote:My stance has always been that I don't believe the Ollie-Warthen tandem can work.I don't agree.sorry, "won't" work.most pitchers velocity is a little lower in Spring. I know he pitched in the Mexican league, but still. Shouldn't his velocity have ret urned by now? is the knee injury really keeping him down, or is that he's not getting his proper mechanics back? Didn't Chase Utley reportedly have the same tendinitis this spring? CC has knee surgery, should the Yankees be worried?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I don't know, I don't know, and I don't know. But I don't think any negative answers there aredefinitively negative because Dan Warthan is the coach and not Dave Righetti or somebody.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Ralph's voice, floating out of a speaker, for the 50th consecutive Mets year. Per Ice Cube, today is a good day.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:I don't know, I don't know, and I don't know. But I don't think any negative answers there aredefinitively negative because Dan Warthan is the coach and not Dave Righetti or somebody.fair enough. The questions were mostly rhetorical anyway. I'm not positive anyone knows. I only suspect/guess/blame that Warthen could be doing more than he is, or is not doing his duty to answer said questions.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 A two-out single off of new pitcher Joe Kelly (righty) by Murphy plates run number three. Jenrry Mejia joins the shutout party with a scoreless.Murphy handled four chances --- two grounders, one popout, one tagout on an outfield assist --- without incident. Brad Emaus comes in and an infield hit to second occurs.Fernando Martinez has a hit and a walk.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:A two-out singe off of new pitcher Joe Kelly (righty) by Murphy plates run number three. Jenrry Mejia joins the shutout party with a scoreless.Murphy handled four chances --- two grounders, one popout, one tagout on an outfield assist --- without incident. Brad Emaus comes in and an infield hit to second occurs.Fernando Martinez has a hit and a walk.cool beans. One of the things i'm interested/concerned with is Murphy with the DP. Specifically when Pelfrey is pitching. Pelfrey's seemingly set himself up as a guy that gives upa lot of hits, but they tend not to be damaging,a nd part of that is grounders and DPs. But it sounds like there is a lot of guys audtiioning for second that will help the team. They'll be able to pick based on a position of strength, and have suitable backups should it be a short lived success. wish i could watch. damn work. 2 weeks.
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Nobody should read too much into Ollie's outing as the Cardinals only brought one regular player today so he was mostly facing minor leaguers.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Ceetar wrote:Edgy DC wrote:I don't know, I don't know, and I don't know. But I don't think any negative answers there aredefinitively negative because Dan Warthan is the coach and not Dave Righetti or somebody.fair enough. The questions were mostly rhetorical anyway. I'm not positive anyone knows. I only suspect/guess/blame that Warthen could be doing more than he is, or is not doing his duty to answer said questions.Wait, I thought your issue with Warthen was that he was too blunt.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:Ceetar wrote:Edgy DC wrote:I don't know, I don't know, and I don't know. But I don't think any negative answers there aredefinitively negative because Dan Warthan is the coach and not Dave Righetti or somebody.fair enough. The questions were mostly rhetorical anyway. I'm not positive anyone knows. I only suspect/guess/blame that Warthen could be doing more than he is, or is not doing his duty to answer said questions.Wait, I thought your issue with Warthen was that he was too blunt.Blunt? can they trade him to the Giants?Is he too blunt? other then the idiotic Maine comment, I can't really recall much of anything interesting he's said.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 To continue the thought from yesterday.So and so (missed their names) joining you hear on raysbaseball.com for one of our 8 internet broadcasts this spring..
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 And we're done. Ollie gets the win. Taylor Bucholz gets the save. Award holds to Francisco Rodriguez, Chris Capuano, Jason Isringhausen, Jenrry Mejia, and Boof Bonser.For all the minor-leaguies in opposition lineup, the Mets only struck out one batter, while walking two and yielding eight hits.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 bmfc1 wrote:Nobody should read too much into Ollie's outing as the Cardinals only brought one regular player today so he was mostly facing minor leaguers.In that case, Ollie retroactively refuses this de facto minor league assignment.
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Ceetar wrote:To continue the thought from yesterday.So and so (missed their names) joining you hear on raysbaseball.com for one of our 8 internet broadcasts this spring..So it can be done. Thanks.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 bmfc1 wrote:Nobody should read too much into Ollie's outing as the Cardinals only brought one regular player today so he was mostly facing minor leaguers.The level of competition he faced really wasn't important. The biggest enemy he had to face was himself. And he won. He didn't walk a single batter. I'm happy for him.Later
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 Yes, good for him. But really, unless something unexpected happens (like a high number of spring injuries to the pitching staff) Ollie is really auditioning for his next job, the major-league minimum contract he'll get from whoever picks him up after he's released.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Yes, good for him. But really, unless something unexpected happens (like a high number of spring injuries to the pitching staff) Ollie is really auditioning for his next job, the major-league minimum contract he'll get from whoever picks him up after he's released.Yeah this , the Snooze has him all but released in a Madden article http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/03/04/2011-03-04_ollie_perez_delays_anticipated_release_but_likely_out_of_chances_while_krods_pla.html
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