I.P.C.T. (10/4/10)

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Just a peculiar family business.

[G-Fafif]

FW: Last four years most painful of the past 30. Take that, 1993.

[HahnSolo]

A "family" business, Fred? Are Jeff's siblings named Wednesday and Puggsley?

[G-Fafif]

Howard made a big show of pronouncing John Ricco with the short "i". The Wilpons called him Ricco as in Brogna.

Same page, fellas.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Jeff: Coaches are all "on hold."

Would help if they knew how to pronounce Ricco's name.

[G-Fafif]

HahnSolo wrote: A "family" business, Fred? Are Jeff's siblings named Wednesday and Puggsley?

That stock ticker in the Delta club is a real bad sign.

[Guest themetfairy]

HahnSolo wrote: RIP Bob Mandt.

I'm glad he was inducted into the Mets HOF when he was around to enjoy it.

[bmfc1]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Would help if they knew how to pronounce Ricco's name.

They thought that they were being funny but it came across as ignorant. He's one of your top guys, you should know his name.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Other than the mispronunciation, I think they're coming off well here.

[HahnSolo]

bmfc1 wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: Would help if they knew how to pronounce Ricco's name. They thought that they were being funny but it came across as ignorant. He's one of your top guys, you should know his name.

This.

[G-Fafif]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Other than the mispronunciation, I think they're coming off well here.

That only took four years.

[metirish]

Ownership saying that they were never asked to eat any players contract , they would have considered this if asked.


http://player.radio.com/player/RadioPlayer.php?version=1.1.9951&station=62

[metirish]

Jeff just sounds like such a dick.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Does it seem strange that Jeff keeps referring to his father by his first name?

[G-Fafif]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Does it seem strange that Jeff keeps referring to his father by his first name?

"Dadsie" would sound stranger.

[Guest Edgy DC]

What would you say in such a situation? "My daddy and I are committed to giving the Mets fans the best team possible, and will continue to strive..."

He's "Fred" to the media, so it makes sense that he speaks of him as "Fred." Even calling him "my father" has an emasculating ring to it.

[soupcan]

That's true. Guys that work for their dads often say they work 'with' their dads and the guys I know that work 'with' their dads always refer to them by their first name.

[G-Fafif]

Hal Steinbrenner referred to "George" in The House of Steinbrenner and it also sounded awkward.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Good answers on the Madoff situation.

Overall, I think they did a good job with this. Addressed the key issues, were kind to the people they dispatched, took responsibility where they should, admitted the hurt, looked forward. Fred sounds a little too much like Bud Selig, but he does sound better than Jeff.

The name thing just seemed kind of odd to me.

As a funny aside, my father is the head of a company in Florida. He and I have the same first name, but different middle names, so I'm not a junior.

So when I call down there, I ask for him by name, and when the receptionist asks who is calling, and gets the same name, there's always an awkward pause until they remember. I usually have to follow with, ..."his son." But that doesn't always work since my brother works with him.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Edgy DC wrote: What would you say in such a situation? "My daddy and I are committed to giving the Mets fans the best team possible, and will continue to strive..." He's "Fred" to the media, so it makes sense that he speaks of him as "Fred." Even calling him "my father" has an emasculating ring to it.

No, why would be say "daddy?" If he had said, "My father, Mr. Katz and I are committed to giving the Mets fans the best team possible..." that wouldn't sound unusual to me.

[HahnSolo]

Next time, instead of saying "his son" say "you know, Mets Guy in Michigan."

That'll work.

[Benjamin Grimm]

No, next time say, "Who the hell are YOU to ask who I am! I'm fucking Snooki! PUT ME THROUGH!"

[Benjamin Grimm]

Oh, by the way, I meant "fucking" as an adjective, not a verb, but it would work either way.

[metirish]

Jeff on now with Francesa talking about the perception that they involve themselves too deeply in the biz of the GM and baseball people, false he says.

[G-Fafif]

Fred with the glasses and the age looks like late-period LBJ.

[G-Fafif]

Jeff on with Francesa right now.

[Guest Edgy DC]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Edgy DC wrote: What would you say in such a situation? "My daddy and I are committed to giving the Mets fans the best team possible, and will continue to strive..." He's "Fred" to the media, so it makes sense that he speaks of him as "Fred." Even calling him "my father" has an emasculating ring to it. No, why would be say "daddy?" If he had said, "My father, Mr. Katz and I are committed to giving the Mets fans the best team possible..." that wouldn't sound unusual to me.

It wouldn't sound unusual, but --- and you have to read soup's post above --- it is a common enough way of talking for people who work in their father's business.

More interestingly, your sentence ("My father, Mr. Katz and I...") is one of the very special cases where the serial comma before the "and" would have added ambiguity.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: No, next time say, "Who the hell are YOU to ask who I am! I'm fucking Snooki! PUT ME THROUGH!"

Yup. This is why I'll try his cell or e-mail before trying the front desk.....

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

HahnSolo wrote: Next time, instead of saying "his son" say "you know, Mets Guy in Michigan." That'll work.

That might work. When dad leaves a comment on the blog, he signs it Mets Guy in Florida.



And Edgy is right about the serial comma!

[metirish]

Jeff when asked how he views this team


" this is a team of individuals and not a team"....