Predict the Day That Jerry Gets Fired

[metirish]

joepet wrote: Jerry will go the day after the Yankee series. May 24th. There will be a new Manager in place for Phillies series on the 25th.

I have him going in time for the MFY's coming to Flushing and Bobby V being hired just in time....

not going to happen but still.

[metirish]

Frayed Knot wrote: metirish wrote: I didn't see much of this series.....watched a movie Saturday night and went to the Zoo yesterday.. Well, Saturday's game was like seeing a bad movie and Sunday's was like watching monkeys play ball ... so you sort of did see them.

and manning 3rd base for the Mets

[Ceetar]

I've been out of commission most of the weekend (public speaking, drinking from a flask, dancing, broadway). Did I read somewhere that Omar is meeting the team in Atlanta? can we say post-game firing, win or lose? Replacement waiting back in NY when they finish the road trip?

[metirish]

Were you actually public speaking or just drunk and speaking loudly in public?...

[Frayed Knot]

Ceetar wrote: I've been out of commission most of the weekend (public speaking, drinking from a flask, dancing, broadway). Did I read somewhere that Omar is meeting the team in Atlanta? can we say post-game firing, win or lose? Replacement waiting back in NY when they finish the road trip?

GMs travel with the team all the time so this one doesn't necessarily mean anything is afoot.
You can read things into the fact that Omar wasn't previously scheduled to make this specific trip but it may just be a 'see for myself' kind of thing which could nudge him towards (or away) from making a change in the near future, not that a decision has already been reached.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Ceetar wrote: I've been out of commission most of the weekend (public speaking, drinking from a flask, dancing, broadway). Did I read somewhere that Omar is meeting the team in Atlanta? can we say post-game firing, win or lose? Replacement waiting back in NY when they finish the road trip? GMs travel with the team all the time so this one doesn't necessarily mean anything is afoot. You can read things into the fact that Omar wasn't previously scheduled to make this specific trip but it may just be a 'see for myself' kind of thing which could nudge him towards (or away) from making a change in the near future, not that a decision has already been reached.

True. It's just very similiar to the way they did it last time. Probably just hope on my part.

And yes, it was actually public speaking, I was the best man in a wedding. I hate public speaking, I'm a very shy person, I get nervous even about screaming Let's Go Mets and Jose..Jose.. with 50k other people. Sounds like a better time than watching the Mets this weekend though, and probalby drank less than I would've needed to watching the game.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It seems pretty clear that the goodwill that came from that eight-game winning streak is already completely gone. And it evaporated even sooner than I thought it would.

Same here. But then, they've lost a lot more quickly since the streak (3-13 since the win in the first game at Philly) than I thought they would. And in the overwhelming majority of them lay some terrible managerial decisions that looked anywhere from highly spurious to nonsensical as they were were occurring.

As the season began, I had set my expectations to a nice, reasonable level, and I had been prepared not to get too upset about what figured to be a middling season, win-loss-wise, during which we got to see some old guys be healthy and play well again and see some new guys knock home runs over the wall. In retrospect, all the win streak really did was make me dream a little bit, and prep my insides for the burgeoning hole in my intestinal lining I thought I'd girded my system against. It made me really care again about this particular team's fortunes, and for that, thanks and fuck you, win streak.

Metirish wrote: I didn't see much of this series.....watched a movie Saturday night and went to the Zoo yesterday...

Went on Saturday-- in retrospect, you sequenced it far better than we did. Still, it's pleasantly ironic how much watching funny monkeys hurling crap in front of a crowd can help one forget about an Ollie P. start.

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[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: It could be worse I suppose.

"It could be worse" resonates with me. I have little confidence that Manuel's replacement would be significantly better. Wilpon strikes me as an ego driven owner that abhors dynamic personalities -- the strong, knowledgeable type that will fight for his way, clashing with the brass over ideas and constantly telling management what it probably doesn't want to hear. A successful manager is likelier than not to possess many or all of those characteristics and will, among other things, tell Wilpon where the hell he can stick Jeff Francoeur if the Mets are serious about fielding a contender.

Bobby Valentine was such a manager, but I think that V developed a good deal of his swagger as a Met. It's no surprise that Wilpon's first meaningful order of business upon acquiring total team ownership was to can Valentine.

I'm hoping for the best, though.

[metirish]

If it means anything....Burkhardt is tweeting that a "team source" told him Omar is not in Atlanta to fire Jerry......Burkhardt opines that two bad games here and that will change.

[bmfc1]

Jeff Wilpon is there too:

AdamRubinESPN

Chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon has decided to come down to Atlanta to join general manager Omar Minaya, a team official confirms.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Oooh, that sounds ominous.

Somebody should inform Jeff that Atlanta is in the same time zone as New York.

I wonder if Jeff will be wearing his hardhat?

[metirish]

bmfc1 wrote: Jeff Wilpon is there too: AdamRubinESPN Chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon has decided to come down to Atlanta to join general manager Omar Minaya, a team official confirms.

He's looking to move the Thrashers to Queens

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

metirish wrote: Jeff Wilpon is there too: AdamRubinESPN Chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon has decided to come down to Atlanta to join general manager Omar Minaya, a team official confirms. He's looking to move the Thrashers to Queens

Thwack!

I'd like to change my prediction to, uh... today.

[bmfc1]

Brian Costa Ledger_NYMets

Manuel walks out of office, looks at reporters and cracks, "I got a uniform on, don't I?"

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[Guest Edgy DC]

Thwack! says Jerry.

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Brian Costa Ledger_NYMets Manuel walks out of office, looks at reporters and cracks, "I got a uniform on, don't I?"

Didn't answer the question, and was fetching Warthen. Maybe they're all gone, but not until after the game.

[G-Fafif]

Unless he's bringing with him two pink slips and a FOR SALE sign, what purpose does a Jeff Wilpon visit with the manager and general manager serve? Besides reminding us the franchise is in such outstanding hands, I mean?

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Brian Costa Ledger_NYMets Manuel walks out of office, looks at reporters and cracks, "I got a uniform on, don't I?" Didn't answer the question, and was fetching Warthen. Maybe they're all gone, but not until after the game.

Have you contacted the caterer for your "Jerry is fired'' party yet?

[Ceetar]

G-Fafif wrote: Unless he's bringing with him two pink slips and a FOR SALE sign, what purpose does a Jeff Wilpon visit with the manager and general manager serve? Besides reminding us the franchise is in such outstanding hands, I mean?

Indeed. And it doesn't quite paint a picture of autonomy. "Uh oh, Omar might make a decision! I better get down there!"

[Ceetar]

Swan Swan H wrote: Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Brian Costa Ledger_NYMets Manuel walks out of office, looks at reporters and cracks, "I got a uniform on, don't I?" Didn't answer the question, and was fetching Warthen. Maybe they're all gone, but not until after the game. Have you contacted the caterer for your "Jerry is fired'' party yet?

718-507-TIXX. I'm sitting in section 508 row...6 I think Friday. All set to cheer hard for the new manager.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

G-Fafif wrote: Unless he's bringing with him two pink slips and a FOR SALE sign, what purpose does a Jeff Wilpon visit with the manager and general manager serve? Besides reminding us the franchise is in such outstanding hands, I mean?

Also, Chick-Fil-A for Jeffy!

[Guest Edgy DC]

I can't see how a COO joining a team on the road is bad symbolism unless you want it to be.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: I can't see how a COO joining a team on the road is bad symbolism unless you want it to be.

It just seems like it because it's only reported when it fits a storyline, like now.

It's more the symbolism of him doing it unscheduled, right after Omar did the same.

[G-Fafif]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Unless he's bringing with him two pink slips and a FOR SALE sign, what purpose does a Jeff Wilpon visit with the manager and general manager serve? Besides reminding us the franchise is in such outstanding hands, I mean? Also, Chick-Fil-A for Jeffy!

You may be onto something. Take the team to Tastee Freez BEFORE the game and maybe they'll play better.

Corn dog's are on Jeffy!

[G-Fafif]

Edgy DC wrote: I can't see how a COO joining a team on the road is bad symbolism unless you want it to be.

Next time an owner flies in after a five-game winning streak, it will take on a new and more positive meaning.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I can't see how a COO joining a team on the road is bad symbolism unless you want it to be. It just seems like it because it's only reported when it fits a storyline, like now. It's more the symbolism of him doing it unscheduled, right after Omar did the same.

Well, I guess that certainly can be seen as foreshadowing a decision being made, but I don't get from there to bad symbolism.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Bad symbolism? Mebbe not.

Bad portent? Bad omen? Bad sign? Yeah, mebbe.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm sorry. I just don't follow. People are rooting for a change, and the braintrust seems to be meeting to discuss... something.

You want omens, I'll give you omens, baby.

May 17, 1973: California Angels center fielder Bobby Valentine tries to scale a wall to prevent a Dick Green home run during a 5 - 4 loss to the Oakland Athletics. Valentine catches his spikes in the wall and fractures his leg. The injury will ruin his career.

May 17, 1985: The Texas Rangers name Bobby Valentine as their new manager, replacing the departed Doug Rader.

Twenty-five years ago!

[G-Fafif]

Jeff just swung by to do a little Terry Cashman, according to Adam Rubin.

Q: Did you express confidence? JW: "I came to talk baseball with them and hear what they want to do and how they want to get this moving in the right direction."

[Zvon]

Jeff just swung by to do a little Terry Cashman, according to Adam Rubin. Q: Did you express confidence? JW: "I came to talk baseball with them and hear what they want to do and how they want to get this moving in the right direction."

whew.
I saw this thread pop up and I thought "yikes, they fired him during the game!"