2010 CPF NL Only Fantasy Baseball Anyone?

[Fman99]

Sorry, Vic. The earliest I could do it that day is 9:30 as that is my son's birthday.

What about Thursday the 25th? Anyone object?

[metirish]

I'm flexible, how long would the draft take...more or less like.

[Fman99]

metirish wrote: I'm flexible, how long would the draft take...more or less like.

Assuming it moves at a brisk pace, I'd guess in the neighborhood of 90 minutes.

[metirish]

Fman99 wrote: metirish wrote: I'm flexible, how long would the draft take...more or less like. Assuming it moves at a brisk pace, I'd guess in the neighborhood of 90 minutes.

Those that don't show will have their team auto picked?

[smg58]

Fman99 wrote: Sorry, Vic. The earliest I could do it that day is 9:30 as that is my son's birthday. What about Thursday the 25th? Anyone object?

Thursday would be ideal for me, as my wife will be out for the evening.

[smg58]

Wow, we're up to 11 now.

I'm beginning to think having six infielders and five outfielders active per team is a bit much...

[Fman99]

Agreed.

16 NL teams = 48 starting outfielders, 32 middle infielders and 32 corner infielders.

11 owners at 5 OFs = 55 OFs, 33 2B/SS and 33 1B/3B. Too many slots.

So I will change it to 4 OFs and one extra infielder (CI or MI) per active team. Still also a Util spot. This should be a bit easier to field a full squad.

Also the draft is now scheduled for Thursday, March 25th at 7:30 PM.

[nymr83]

booo dont water it down, whats wrong with having to use part-time players??

[Fman99]

What's wrong is that part time players suck ass.

Even with the pared down rosters, look at it like this:

16 NL teams x 8 positions = 128 position players

11 fantasy teams x 11 hitters per team (8 position players plus 1 extra IF, OF and UTIL) = 121 hitters

Letting the seven worst hitters in the NL off the hook is not exactly making it easy.

[Valadius]

Boom.

[Fman99]

That's a full house, kids. Nice and good luck to everyone.

[nymr83]

at least up the bench size from 3 to 5, this makes having the next useful player less a matter of being the first to click the waiver wire when player X gets named a starter and more a matter of planning.

[Fman99]

Nymr83 wrote: at least up the bench size from 3 to 5, this makes having the next useful player less a matter of being the first to click the waiver wire when player X gets named a starter and more a matter of planning.

I can do that. I think we should also try using the free agent blind bidding for waivers, which is a new Yahoo feature this year, instead of the generic "first come first served" method.

[smg58]

Do you think 1250 innings is really enough? It seems like we'll be drafting third-string infielders but leaving fourth and fifth starters out there, the way things are currently structured.

[Ceetar]

I despise inning limits, just fyi. :-D and 1250 is nowhere near enough I wouldn't think.

[Fman99]

I am open to changing it.... what's a better number?

[Ceetar]

I guess 7 pitches isn't that many that it should become a huge issues. I'm always a fan of no limits.

The case for limits is that one person could continually swap in pitchers and get a lot more innings and rack up more wins, etc. And I guess with only ER on the negative side that could be the case.

Lesse, 5 pitchers, at 200ip each would be 1000 innings, maybe 75 for the two relievers, so 1150. I guess 1250 does work okay, but I'd support bumping it up to 1400 or 1500 to support a 6th or 7th bench pitcher if that's the way someone chose to go.

[smg58]

We did 1450 the last two years and it seemed to work out ok. It's consistent with a full season.

[Valadius]

1250 runs out around August.

[smg58]

PS What happens when Carl Crawford gets traded to an NL team in mid-July and we all go all-in bidding for him?

[nymr83]

I think we should also try using the free agent blind bidding for waivers, which is a new Yahoo feature this year, instead of the generic "first come first served" method.

i like it.

PS What happens when Carl Crawford gets traded to an NL team in mid-July and we all go all-in bidding for him?

whoever prudently saved their FA budget gets him.
or if there is a "tie" (two max bids) it goes to the player lower in the standings.

as for the innings limit, i think it should be high enough that even with the best innings eaters in the league you dont hit it, but you can just drop and replace starters 4 times a week. 1450 is fine since we have 3 dedicated reliever slots.



ps- this is shaping up to be awesome instead of just another yahoo standard/mixed/public league that anyone can go join on their own anyway, way to go fman

[smg58]

Nymr83 wrote: ps- this is shaping up to be awesome instead of just another yahoo standard/mixed/public league that anyone can go join on their own anyway, way to go fman

Yes, thanks a bunch! And thanks to nymr for running the show in the past.

[Fman99]

You're all welcome. IP limit is now 1450.

I've been a commish for my other league using Yahoo since 2002 so it's pretty intuitive for me. And a league where no money (prizes or entry fees) changes hands is all the easier for me, not having to shake down a bunch of deadbeats for their transaction dues.

[Fman99]

Don't forget! Drafting this Thursday at 7:30 PM EST. Should be fun.....

[metirish]

Fman99 wrote: Don't forget! Drafting this Thursday at 7:30 PM EST. Should be fun.....

I'll attempt this with the kid hanging from me and asking to watch youtube videos of steam locomotives , his new thing.

[smg58]

metirish wrote: Don't forget! Drafting this Thursday at 7:30 PM EST. Should be fun..... I'll attempt this with the kid hanging from me and asking to watch youtube videos of steam locomotives , his new thing.

Enjoy it while you can; soon he'll be telling you who to pick.

[metirish]

smg58 wrote: Don't forget! Drafting this Thursday at 7:30 PM EST. Should be fun..... I'll attempt this with the kid hanging from me and asking to watch youtube videos of steam locomotives , his new thing. Enjoy it while you can; soon he'll be telling you who to pick.

I think I might enjoy that......

How long might the draft take tonight?


I have never done the live draft , any tips ?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

metirish wrote: Don't forget! Drafting this Thursday at 7:30 PM EST. Should be fun..... I'll attempt this with the kid hanging from me and asking to watch youtube videos of steam locomotives , his new thing.

7:30 to 8:30 is the hour I usually spend wrestling Lunchpail to bed, should be harrowing for me too. Yeah, any hints would be nice.

[smg58]

I'd say three hours if we work quickly, especially in the late rounds when the talent pool will be so thin that it will be one big crap shoot.

I've never been in this deep of a draft, so I don't have much advice to give. Maybe towards the end look for matching halves of a platoon -- the righthanded half will generally only have value to whomever takes the lefthanded half (unless it's somebody like Jonny Gomes, who'll produce well in the AB's he gets). I also wouldn't worry about your bench. If you need to fill a spot due to an injured player, most likely nobody will begrudge you picking up the guy who takes his place. There may be exceptions, though. For example, I'd expect that Alex Cora will only have value to the person who drafts Reyes (and that's assuming Reyes misses Opening Day), but if you grab Beltran you may not be able to wait till the end of the draft to grab Pagan.

[Fman99]

smg58 wrote: I'd say three hours if we work quickly, especially in the late rounds when the talent pool will be so thin that it will be one big crap shoot. I've never been in this deep of a draft, so I don't have much advice to give. Maybe towards the end look for matching halves of a platoon -- the righthanded half will generally only have value to whomever takes the lefthanded half (unless it's somebody like Jonny Gomes, who'll produce well in the AB's he gets). I also wouldn't worry about your bench. If you need to fill a spot due to an injured player, most likely nobody will begrudge you picking up the guy who takes his place. There may be exceptions, though. For example, I'd expect that Alex Cora will only have value to the person who drafts Reyes (and that's assuming Reyes misses Opening Day), but if you grab Beltran you may not be able to wait till the end of the draft to grab Pagan.

It shouldn't take anywhere near 3 hours. Generally the time limit is 90 seconds per pick, but half of the people drafting will be ready to go within 5-7 seconds of coming on the clock. And the others will get mocked (by me at least) for taking the full time, given that this league is not for money and all....

I'd figure on being done by 9 PM EST.

As for hints, I throw this out there -- ESPN MLB depth charts, per team, will help you figure out who the starters are for every NL team as well as the top 5 candidates for the rotation and their top relievers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/depth?team=ari

Pull down menu on the right to select the other NL teams. I copied those out onto a single spreadsheet and use it to find those guys late who will get a lot of at bats.

In a single league it's important to maximize those guys who are going to play, even if they are .240 scrubs, because much of the stats (especially hitting) are counting stats and those runs/HRs/RBIs/steals add up. Relievers will be around late, though in a 12 team NL only league you may want to seek out at least one closer with a track record.