Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Rotoworld (forwarding news from a Latin news source) reporting the Mets inked former Angels hurler Kelvim Escobar to a minor league deal.Didn't make it onto the field due to injuries in 2008 and 2009 but had a 3.40 ERA in 30 appearances in 2007. I like it.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Confirmed by Sherman. According to both Sherman and Venezuelan reporter Francesco Blavia (who broke it), it's a one-year major-league deal.Other details are as yet unconfirmed, although I hear there's a 17.5 million option for 2011 in there that vests if he survives until October.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 I like this...high reward/low risk
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Wait a second - The guy hasn't pitched in two years and he's got a $17.5 million option that vests?$17.5? That's just a bit much, no?He's gonna be 35 by then. Tell me that you were kidding or at least that you meant to write $1.75 million player option.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 I think he's choking your turkey with that SoupcanThe Mets and right-hander Kelvim Escobar have agreed to a one-year, major-league contract, a person familiar with the situation confirmed. Escobar must pass a physical for the deal to become official.Escobar, 33, has pitched just five major-league innings in the last two seasons, as he dealt with a major right shoulder injury. That the Mets are willing to guarantee money and a roster spot to Escobar reflects the hopes they have that Escobar can help set up for closer Francisco Rodriguez.For the bulk of his career, Escobar has been regarded as having an electric arm. He has both started and relieved for Toronto and the Angels, with whom he spent the past six seasons. he has a 101-90 record with a 4.15 ERA, with 1,310 strikeouts and 611 walks in 1,507 innings pitched.He missed all of 2008 while recovering from shoulder surgery, and this past season, he made a start June 6, lasting five innings, and then never returned.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Setup man to Frankie?.......
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Escobar had surgery on a torn labrum 03/2008Pitched one inning in Venzuela 2 days ago, one K, 1 BB no runsThats all I found
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 I think he's choking your turkey with that Soupcan[/quote:3ecrfht6]Once again, I'm the 'doesn't get the joke' guy.And we call it 'taking the piss' irish. Its about time you started get used to the slang we use around these parts.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Never heard "taking the piss" verbally outside this board
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 26, 2009 Author Posted December 26, 2009 ESPN now reporting this deal also, 1.25 mil in guaranteed money and confirming Minaya's desire to put him in the pen.Which, to me, is stupid. He went 18-7 his last full season as a starter... I know he came up as a swingman in Anaheim, but I'd think that the Mets could use him in the rotation more than as a set up guy.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 In theory, Escobar's arm is more likely to hold up to 65 innings of bullpen work than 200 innings of starting. I don't know if it always works that way in practice.I do know that it's easier to make a reliever out of a starter during the season than the other way around, so if they commit Escobar to the pen in the spring they'd better stick with it.The contract does include some starters' incentives, so the Mets are keeping the door open at least.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Well, considering he hasn't really pitched in two years, they probably think that he won't be able to handle a starter's workload. (OE: what smiggy said.) Though, for me, I think nobody worked so hard last season as the various lambs that Jerry used as his setup men. (OE: what smiggy kinda sorta implied.)
Guest attgig Guests Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 it's 1.25 guaranteed minor league deal with a 125,000 bonus for making the opening day major league roster....pretty much, if he's in the pen, he's making 1.375. if he holds up through the end of the year, there's a $2mil bonus for # of games pitched. that makes it a 3.375 deal. more incentives on top of that... but, i'm thinking if he holds up, he's a 3.5 mil reliever...
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Hetman says he passed the stringent workup by the Mets doctors . 1.25 million with bonuses that total $3.125 million
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Though, for me, I think nobody worked so hard last season as the various lambs that Jerry used as his setup men. (OE: what smiggy kinda sorta implied.)[/quote:2vhcazlb]Agree. One of the things that make an effective reliever is the ability of the arm to bounce back after an appearance. And, as you said, based on how Manuel (ab)uses his relievers, I'd feel better if he were used as a starter, so his "healing" between appearances is more structured.Later
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I like the Playboy channel too. But only for the news-feature segments.http://www.myspace.com/kelvim
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Hetman says he passed the stringent workup by the Mets doctors . 1.25 million with bonuses that total $3.125 million[/quote:7vt9oug5]The Mets Dr's cleared him? Oye..Bard and DeRosa are off da market
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