Hey... DAVID WRIGHT!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

[bigpurple:3i5x1xmi]BOOOoOoOoOoOooooOOOoOOoOOOOOOOooOoOoOoo![/bigpurple:3i5x1xmi]

[metirish]

Fuck you D fucking W, hey asshole why not just stay in FLA and fuck off to Hojo's house and hide , wanker.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

And take your new French boyfriend with you.

[Guest Kong76]

I knew the big purple would be an eventual hit.
Are we really starting to have hat for the best player on this team?
Oh wait, that's Castillo.

(didn't see the base running play that probably prompted this thread,
was in the car and only half heard)

[Guest Kong76]

[bigpurple:2yr7ph94]eeek, just saw[/bigpurple:2yr7ph94]

[Frayed Knot]

I re-posting my reply from the IGT into this thread too just because it belongs and so I can bitch about it some more.

* metfairy wrote: Francouer was out at 2nd before Wright crossed the plate, so his run didn't count.

* Grimm wrote: I think I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember when. It's been a loooong time.


FK: It's not the rarity of the play that makes this one so horrible, it's that Wright should have scored easily but didn't solely because he got lazy. And as much as we rag on the Jeter-ites in booths and in newspapers who treat him as if he can summon up magic on demand, this is absolutely a screw-up he'd never make.

Also the boys in the booth screwed up a bit on their analysis. Wright didn't get a bad break because he failed to realize there were two outs (as G, K & R insisted) but rather because he was dodging the line drive. The slow start wasn't the problem -- the problem was after he rounded 3rd when he just dropped it to near walking speed without ever even taking a glance at what Francoeur was up to. Even a quick glimpse and he would have known to run through the bag. Even at half-speed he makes it easily.

Francoeur's gamble in going for a double wasn't the best move he ever made but the fact that Wright didn't score isn't on him, it's strictly on David.

[bmfc1]

Good analysis, FK.

Compounding my/our anger was the fact that the Jeter "look at my website" commercial came on immediately after the inning. As was said elsewhere, no matter what we think of Jeter and his supporters in the press, he would have run hard the whole way.

For all the talk of fundamentals in ST, this team stinks at "the little things." No point in regurgitating it here, but when the "face of the franchise" does what he did tonight, not run hard for 180 feet, it speaks volumes about this team and how it's run.

[Frayed Knot]

Not that it excuses anything, but I'm sure David is fully into the 'can't wait for it all to be over' mode. Like even more than usual for a guy on a bad team at the end of a long year.
Having to deal with a new and not always friendly park; tough year offensively all around even if some of the numbers are still decent; carrying the burden of being essentially the only live offensive threat for months at a time; being on a team that started mediocre, got worse, and then got worser and worsest.

He looks totally run down and totally unlike himself, and has for a while now.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yes he does. How he can't do anything with outside pitches, when he used to live on them, makes my heart sink.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

This would be a good time to reveal whatever injury he's been hiding, or say he's been at any rate.

Cruel as well to have him come up again in the 9th with a chance to make it a game again and go down like a bitch before Matt F Lindstrom.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Jerry Manuel labeled it unacceptable but noted that third base coach Razor Shines had indicated to Wright that he would score easily as he rounded third base, which shouldn't be the approach. Wright and Carlos Beltran will get Sunday's game off.

Rubin -- http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0SH2SAgRp who also says Wright apologized to teammates

[metirish]

I assume Wright is at least making Molly pay hard for this , he's got to be taking it out somewhere.

[Fman99]

Honestly, this late in the year, in a lost season, I don't even care. I didn't pay to watch tonight's game in person, or even watch on TV for that matter as we were off visiting my sister in law.

It's late September, the Mets are 90 games out of contention and playing out the string. Fuck Derek Jeter, anyway. Don't perpetuate the barf.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It seems this ballclub has lost far more than a bunch of games over the last six months, doesn't it?

[Valadius]

I have no idea what's being talked about here, but Razor Shines has been abysmal and should be fired anyway.

[dgwphotography]

I was at my sister in law's house last night, and had to watch this while surrounded by MFY fans... The Jeter point was hammered on me constantly...

[bmfc1]

So there's a signal telling the players not to run hard? Because we wouldn't want them to have to run hard unnecessarily? Why couldn't Jerry come out and say that what Wright did is unacceptable? Instead, he defended an act that Wright apologized for and threw one of his coaches under a bus.

[dgwphotography]

So there's a signal telling the players not to run hard? Because we wouldn't want them to have to run hard unnecessarily? Why couldn't Jerry come out and say that what Wright did is unacceptable? Instead, he defended an act that Wright apologized for and threw one of his coaches under a bus.[/quote:1re3v3t6]

Jerry is in saving his ass mode - he knows that players not playing hard reflects on him, and Wright not playing hard is even worse...

[Frayed Knot]

So there's a signal telling the players not to run hard? Because we wouldn't want them to have to run hard unnecessarily?

[G-Fafif]

Nice of the Mets to hire Timo Perez as baserunning coach.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'd really like to digest this without any more invocations of Jeter.

[Frayed Knot]

Fine. But if David wants to publicly say that D***k J***r is the type of ballplayer that he'd like to model himself after then he's going to have to take the comparisons.
Been watching that other guy for 14 seasons now and he's never embarrassed himself with non-hustle the way Wright did yesterday or the way Reyes has on several occasions in a fraction of the time played.

[G-Fafif]

Perhaps we're falling for the disinformation campaign proffered by the vast Jeter wing conspiracy, but between his aforementioned Ford commercial coming on after that half-inning and the recollection of Jeter and Teixeira taking nothing for granted on a pop fly with two out in the ninth materializing in my head from June -- even while I declined his gracious invitation to visit his Web site...that fucker's everywhere.

[Met Hunter]

What pisses me off is that there is a coaches signal to slow down. But never with two outs. You can pull up with less than two like Pagan did on the previous run. But not with two. Thats why the two MFYs scored on Looies drop. Two outs. Someone over there must read the book once in a while.

[ashie62]

Yes he does. How he can't do anything with outside pitches, when he used to live on them, makes my heart sink.[/quote:2x7b6gpc]

This too shall pass

[Guest Edgy DC]

Fine. But if David wants to publicly say that D***k J***r is the type of ballplayer that he'd like to model himself after then he's going to have to take the comparisons.[/quote:2bijfvry]
Doesn't mean we have to be the ones making them.

Been watching that other guy for 14 seasons now and he's never embarrassed himself with non-hustle the way Wright did yesterday or the way Reyes has on several occasions in a fraction of the time played.[/quote:2bijfvry]
He embarassed himself with boneheaded choices a few times in the World Baseball Classic. And his entire presence at short since Rodriguez has been aquired has been a team-hurting prima donna play, and a hustle of a different sort.

[Frayed Knot]

Doesn't mean we have to be the ones making them.

[Guest Edgy DC]

You're talking about Jeter, the paragon. And I don't know why. Wright's screwup is clear enough without such an invocation.

I don't need a contrast with Jeter to know it's bad. Christian Guzman would be fine.

Dozens of players get that play right every week.

[Frayed Knot]

The comparison between the two as being popular home-grown players who became real good real quickly on teams in the same city is obvious and I'm not going to ignore that because it's not fashionable around here.
If Wright wants to be thought of as a Jeter-like player - and by his own admission he does to say nothing of the numerous Met fans who long for him to be thought of with similar reverence - then he can't make plays like that.

[Guest Edgy DC]

It has nothing to do with "fashionable around here."

I do understand that he has publickly stated an intent to hold himself to the Jeter Standard.

I just don't think there was ever any such thing. And we needn't invoke it to criticize Wright for a screwup that's a screwup by any sensible standard.